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RE: YE GODS!! you Brits are a confusing lot! - 5/5/2017 5:35:58 PM   
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I also like Sean Pertwee, as an actor, but again, not knowing the personality behind the act, I cant disagree with your experience:)
He plays the part of Alfred in "Gotham" I cant disagree with your assessment as a "hard man" and I did think about you hittin him with a pillow thru many of his scenes.


He's fine as an actor. He wasn't a bad lad - just not all that tough. But, then, I was one of four brothers and we'd inevitably end up playing rough - whereas he was an only child. We all felt guilty that he'd run off crying, actually. Our mother gave us a severe ticking off about it. Sean doesn't have his dad's clout as an actor, as far as I'm concerned, but he's still pretty good. I'd like to tell him that, one day.

Feck, though - he's old enough to play the Alfred role? That makes *me* feel old!

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RE: YE GODS!! you Brits are a confusing lot! - 5/5/2017 5:40:58 PM   
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Well it goes back to when Bruce was only 15, so hes a much younger Alfred.
Yes I got sucked into Gotham and I dont care who knows it.

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RE: YE GODS!! you Brits are a confusing lot! - 5/5/2017 5:57:37 PM   
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OP, pretty sure River Sung doesn't remember the doctor because she is living backwards through time.,,,, or the other way around. Anyway, the doctor and River are living in time streams going against each other. *sigh* its all very sad.........

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RE: YE GODS!! you Brits are a confusing lot! - 5/5/2017 6:26:48 PM   
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OP, pretty sure River Sung doesn't remember the doctor because she is living backwards through time.,,,, or the other way around. Anyway, the doctor and River are living in time streams going against each other. *sigh* its all very sad.........

hit me pretty hard tooo!

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RE: YE GODS!! you Brits are a confusing lot! - 5/6/2017 4:01:25 AM   
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You do know that Moffat's swiped that from Merlin in TH White's The Once And Future King, right?
(The bit in The Sword And The Stone where the young Arthur mentions that they've only just met and Merlin's reaction when he realises that this is the last time he's ever going to see a friend he's known for forty odd years was left out of the film, for some reason...)

Peon: I think part of the problem with Colin Baker was that the Beeb's then director general throughly resented that one of the network's more popular shows was a children's SF drama, rather than the heavyweight drama series they were spending all of the money on. Given that he resented the series even existing, he came down on it like a ton of bricks when there were complaints about the violence in a few of the stories from Baker's first season. Don't you remember it being taken off the air for a year and petitions in the papers to prevent its cancellation?
(The really depressing thing is that the story that caused all the fuss was one of the two good ones.)

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RE: YE GODS!! you Brits are a confusing lot! - 5/6/2017 11:14:24 AM   
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Ooo , I loved the Sword in the Stone - but completely don't remember that bit.
Need to read them again.

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RE: YE GODS!! you Brits are a confusing lot! - 5/6/2017 11:30:11 AM   
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Actually, after re watching the episode, there were two points that were glaringly obvious.

1) She had not met the doctor in his present form

And

2) She was pulling the "if I deny that he cares etc it wont hurt" plot line.

She clearly knew the doctor, having pictures of every one of his previous forms, and knew how to operate the TARDIS.

And contrary to the argument that River is living backward in the time stream, it is more that, since both are time travelers, they are always traveling through the time stream at different rates and intersecting each other's movements at different points, hence the "synchronizing of diaries" in various episodes, to avoid setting up paradoxes (which if it is not a fixed point in time, why would it matter?)

The doctor routinely makes remarks about crossing his own time stream in various episodes, which again seems a bit of a stretch, since by the very nature of time travel he would be crossing his own time stream each time he activated the TARDIS controls, or more accurately he would be moving forward and backwards along one time line.

However, look at current theories concerning space time, each time the Doctor affects some incident, i.e stopping the cybermen from taking over earth, he has effectively created an alternate time line in an alternate universe which runs parallel to the his original time line.

So, by simple math, since the first episode, the Doctor has effectively created 830 individual alternate time lines in alternate space time continuums.

Then adding in River Song's various exploits, the total number of alternate space time realities becomes almost infinite.

You see, with only three exceptions that I can remember, the Doctor Who series has always implied there is but one time line, which is not the case. According to current theory, each time we as individuals make a choice, we are effectively creating an infinite number of time lines in which an infinite number of ourselves are making an individual choice which changes the course of time, thus creating a new time line.

Thus, the BBC needs to hire Stephen Hawking (who is rumored to enjoy the show) as a technical advisor in which case, god help all of us trying to figure out just what the hell is going on.



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RE: YE GODS!! you Brits are a confusing lot! - 5/6/2017 12:38:17 PM   
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Ooo , I loved the Sword in the Stone - but completely don't remember that bit.
Need to read them again.

It's very early on, iirc. I'll have to dig my own copy out and check: I've just had the worrying thought that it could be a bit that's in the original Sword In The Stone novel, but not the unified and streamlined collection that's all that's in print now...

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RE: YE GODS!! you Brits are a confusing lot! - 5/6/2017 12:42:13 PM   
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Actually, after re watching the episode, there were two points that were glaringly obvious.

1) She had not met the doctor in his present form

And

2) She was pulling the "if I deny that he cares etc it wont hurt" plot line.

She clearly knew the doctor, having pictures of every one of his previous forms, and knew how to operate the TARDIS.

And contrary to the argument that River is living backward in the time stream, it is more that, since both are time travelers, they are always traveling through the time stream at different rates and intersecting each other's movements at different points, hence the "synchronizing of diaries" in various episodes, to avoid setting up paradoxes (which if it is not a fixed point in time, why would it matter?)

The doctor routinely makes remarks about crossing his own time stream in various episodes, which again seems a bit of a stretch, since by the very nature of time travel he would be crossing his own time stream each time he activated the TARDIS controls, or more accurately he would be moving forward and backwards along one time line.

However, look at current theories concerning space time, each time the Doctor affects some incident, i.e stopping the cybermen from taking over earth, he has effectively created an alternate time line in an alternate universe which runs parallel to the his original time line.

So, by simple math, since the first episode, the Doctor has effectively created 830 individual alternate time lines in alternate space time continuums.

Then adding in River Song's various exploits, the total number of alternate space time realities becomes almost infinite.

You see, with only three exceptions that I can remember, the Doctor Who series has always implied there is but one time line, which is not the case. According to current theory, each time we as individuals make a choice, we are effectively creating an infinite number of time lines in which an infinite number of ourselves are making an individual choice which changes the course of time, thus creating a new time line.

Thus, the BBC needs to hire Stephen Hawking (who is rumored to enjoy the show) as a technical advisor in which case, god help all of us trying to figure out just what the hell is going on.



There's a fudge around that from the assumption that the time travel only works inside a single timeline, and that part of what Omega and Rassilon did when they harnessed the black hole was to anchor Gallifrey in a way that cuts out alternate versions and limits it to a single reality.
Mind you, that doesn't explain what's going on in all of the stories that involve alternative realities as a plot device, does it?

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RE: YE GODS!! you Brits are a confusing lot! - 5/6/2017 1:23:27 PM   
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There's a fudge around that from the assumption that the time travel only works inside a single timeline, and that part of what Omega and Rassilon did when they harnessed the black hole was to anchor Gallifrey in a way that cuts out alternate versions and limits it to a single reality.
Mind you, that doesn't explain what's going on in all of the stories that involve alternative realities as a plot device, does it?



No, it doesnt.

Considering the stories that do use alternative realities as plot devices, the black hole is more like the 'woman going shopping for ONE item' theory.

The woman announces she is shopping for ONE item and returns home with 6 bags, two boxes and a delivery time for something else.

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RE: YE GODS!! you Brits are a confusing lot! - 5/6/2017 4:50:41 PM   
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Most people have more character and integrity than you.


Nor me. Loved that book - the whole of The Once and Future King. Absolutely fab.

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RE: YE GODS!! you Brits are a confusing lot! - 5/7/2017 4:04:18 AM   
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There's a fudge around that from the assumption that the time travel only works inside a single timeline, and that part of what Omega and Rassilon did when they harnessed the black hole was to anchor Gallifrey in a way that cuts out alternate versions and limits it to a single reality.
Mind you, that doesn't explain what's going on in all of the stories that involve alternative realities as a plot device, does it?



No, it doesnt.

Considering the stories that do use alternative realities as plot devices, the black hole is more like the 'woman going shopping for ONE item' theory.

The woman announces she is shopping for ONE item and returns home with 6 bags, two boxes and a delivery time for something else.

Hey, I didn't say that I found that argument convincing, just that some people have tried to retcon it by putting it in their fanfic. I think the story that introduces Omega outright states that the reason Gallifrey gets all of its power from a tapped black hole is that nothing else will provide the insane amounts of energy that manipulating time and space the way the Time Lords do requires, doesn't it? That said, as time travel depends on it, trying to establish that as one of the "fixed points" that various Doctors have spent fifty four years claiming that they can't temper with makes sense.

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