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Musicmystery -> Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 4:48:22 PM)

President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

“I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

The existence of Mr. Trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia.

Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. The memo was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the president’s improper efforts to influence a continuing investigation. An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.

More: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/politics/james-comey-trump-flynn-russia-investigation.html?_r=0




tamaka -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 4:50:03 PM)

I think someone needs to investigate Comey.




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 4:57:34 PM)

I've no problem with that.

There should be a bundle of investigations in fact.




tamaka -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 5:00:30 PM)

The problem is... nobody is really trustworthy. Who would you actually trust?




BoscoX -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 5:03:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

I think someone needs to investigate Comey.


His beady little eyes give him away




BamaD -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 5:13:40 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

I think someone needs to investigate Comey.


His beady little eyes give him away

His explination that Hillary had broken numerous laws but since there was no "malice" there was no need to prosecute even though the law doesn't require "malice".




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 5:23:23 PM)

Yep. Independent investigations of the lot of them.




BoscoX -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 5:26:52 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Yep. Independent investigations of the lot of them.


Only so long as the Republicans are in power

What was it you tools always said about investigations of all of the various Obama scandals...





MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 5:37:43 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BamaD


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

I think someone needs to investigate Comey.


His beady little eyes give him away

His explination that Hillary had broken numerous laws but since there was no "malice" there was no need to prosecute even though the law doesn't require "malice".



Not a particularly good moment for Comey. That was a ridiculous explanation.




jlf1961 -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 6:46:53 PM)

The problem is that the president cannot direct or ask that an investigation be stopped by anyone, as demonstrated with Nixon firing the special investigator during the Watergate debacle.

Which is why FBI directors are appointed for 10 year terms.

With the facts clearly showing that:

1) President Trump tried to stop an investigation

And

2) Comey was fired for some pretty lame reasons, and actually fired while he was on the west coast and not directly, there is more than enough evidence to suggest that President Trump is either trying to cover something up, or he is so blasted stupid as to make himself look guilty of misconduct.

Granted, Comey making the statement about reopening the inquiry into the Hilary email server a couple of weeks before the election probably had some impact on the results, since it was not normal for that kind of bombshell to be dropped before the election, but Trump asking that an investigation be stopped is clearly showing intent to cover something up.




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 7:04:20 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

The problem is that the president cannot direct or ask that an investigation be stopped by anyone, as demonstrated with Nixon firing the special investigator during the Watergate debacle.

Which is why FBI directors are appointed for 10 year terms.

With the facts clearly showing that:

1) President Trump tried to stop an investigation

And

2) Comey was fired for some pretty lame reasons, and actually fired while he was on the west coast and not directly, there is more than enough evidence to suggest that President Trump is either trying to cover something up, or he is so blasted stupid as to make himself look guilty of misconduct.

Granted, Comey making the statement about reopening the inquiry into the Hilary email server a couple of weeks before the election probably had some impact on the results, since it was not normal for that kind of bombshell to be dropped before the election, but Trump asking that an investigation be stopped is clearly showing intent to cover something up.



This is moving quickly. We got House Republicans that are calling for the memo. Jason Chaffetz is creating a subpoena.

Our own resident State Republican up and coming star, Cathy McMorris Rogers, is wanting Comey to testify.

Once the memo is produced and Comey testifies, that's pretty much the end.




tamaka -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 7:04:38 PM)

Well right now it's his word vs his word so...




seekingOwnertoo -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 7:09:21 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

Well right now it's his word vs his word so...


So Trump must be lying. No? [:D]

I couldn't resist that!




BoscoX -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 7:33:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

The problem is that the president cannot direct or ask that an investigation be stopped by anyone, as demonstrated with Nixon firing the special investigator during the Watergate debacle.

Which is why FBI directors are appointed for 10 year terms.

With the facts clearly showing that:

1) President Trump tried to stop an investigation

And

2) Comey was fired for some pretty lame reasons, and actually fired while he was on the west coast and not directly, there is more than enough evidence to suggest that President Trump is either trying to cover something up, or he is so blasted stupid as to make himself look guilty of misconduct.

Granted, Comey making the statement about reopening the inquiry into the Hilary email server a couple of weeks before the election probably had some impact on the results, since it was not normal for that kind of bombshell to be dropped before the election, but Trump asking that an investigation be stopped is clearly showing intent to cover something up.



This is moving quickly. We got House Republicans that are calling for the memo. Jason Chaffetz is creating a subpoena.

Our own resident State Republican up and coming star, Cathy McMorris Rogers, is wanting Comey to testify.

Once the memo is produced and Comey testifies, that's pretty much the end.


Just like it's been the end since the day Trump announced




BoscoX -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 7:35:58 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

The problem is that the president cannot direct or ask that an investigation be stopped by anyone, as demonstrated with Nixon firing the special investigator during the Watergate debacle.

Which is why FBI directors are appointed for 10 year terms.

With the facts clearly showing that:

1) President Trump tried to stop an investigation

And

2) Comey was fired for some pretty lame reasons, and actually fired while he was on the west coast and not directly, there is more than enough evidence to suggest that President Trump is either trying to cover something up, or he is so blasted stupid as to make himself look guilty of misconduct.

Granted, Comey making the statement about reopening the inquiry into the Hilary email server a couple of weeks before the election probably had some impact on the results, since it was not normal for that kind of bombshell to be dropped before the election, but Trump asking that an investigation be stopped is clearly showing intent to cover something up.


Never mind the fact that the Democrats were for it, before they were against it

Most are on record demanding Comey's head

They got it, and it's a scandal?





vincentML -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 7:55:42 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

The problem is that the president cannot direct or ask that an investigation be stopped by anyone, as demonstrated with Nixon firing the special investigator during the Watergate debacle.

Which is why FBI directors are appointed for 10 year terms.

With the facts clearly showing that:

1) President Trump tried to stop an investigation

And

2) Comey was fired for some pretty lame reasons, and actually fired while he was on the west coast and not directly, there is more than enough evidence to suggest that President Trump is either trying to cover something up, or he is so blasted stupid as to make himself look guilty of misconduct.

Granted, Comey making the statement about reopening the inquiry into the Hilary email server a couple of weeks before the election probably had some impact on the results, since it was not normal for that kind of bombshell to be dropped before the election, but Trump asking that an investigation be stopped is clearly showing intent to cover something up.


Never mind the fact that the Democrats were for it, before they were against it

Most are on record demanding Comey's head

They got it, and it's a scandal?


Obstruction of Justice by the president. Whole different ballgame. Did the president violate his oath of office? Has nothing to do with the Dems.

It is reported tonight that Comey wrote and distributed memos into the FBI system right after Trump asked him to let Flynn alone. Not good.




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 7:57:59 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


quote:

ORIGINAL: jlf1961

The problem is that the president cannot direct or ask that an investigation be stopped by anyone, as demonstrated with Nixon firing the special investigator during the Watergate debacle.

Which is why FBI directors are appointed for 10 year terms.

With the facts clearly showing that:

1) President Trump tried to stop an investigation

And

2) Comey was fired for some pretty lame reasons, and actually fired while he was on the west coast and not directly, there is more than enough evidence to suggest that President Trump is either trying to cover something up, or he is so blasted stupid as to make himself look guilty of misconduct.

Granted, Comey making the statement about reopening the inquiry into the Hilary email server a couple of weeks before the election probably had some impact on the results, since it was not normal for that kind of bombshell to be dropped before the election, but Trump asking that an investigation be stopped is clearly showing intent to cover something up.


Never mind the fact that the Democrats were for it, before they were against it

Most are on record demanding Comey's head

They got it, and it's a scandal?





I never know what the Democrats want. It's a scandal because he fired the person leading an investigation into him and his campaign.

3 words. "Obstruction of justice."

Nothing the Democrats said or didn't say can change that.

Republicans in the House and Senate are now realizing it.

Once Jason Chaffetz subpoenas Comey and his memo, it's game over.




BoscoX -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 8:01:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

3 words. "Obstruction of justice."


Impossible to prove intent though, so no way to charge anyone with anything




Aylee -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/16/2017 8:05:27 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

“I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

The existence of Mr. Trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia.

Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. The memo was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the president’s improper efforts to influence a continuing investigation. An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.

More: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/16/us/politics/james-comey-trump-flynn-russia-investigation.html?_r=0



Oh, I almost hope - REALLY hope - that Comey was indeed taking detailed memos during all of his meetings.

Then we can subpoena his notes from 2016... you know, when he met a lot with his bosses before deciding to make up some new laws to let Hillary get away with her criminal behavior.

Also, if he did give these notes to someone else... he's scum. An 'honest' person does not leak notes of private meetings to the press only after they've been fired. Revenge? That's asshole work. Revenge through anonymous proxy? Cowardly asshole scum.

Also shouldn’t they be “work product” and belong now to the archivist for the FBI, and not personal property, and he should NOT have taken them with him?




WickedsDesire -> RE: Trump asked Comey to shut down FBI's Flynn investigation (5/17/2017 1:24:52 AM)

Trumps word! A renowned pathological liar would not even best Pinocchio.

Trumps word v a pile of shit = pile of shit wins

They are coming for him




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