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longwayhome -> RE: Explosions At Manchester Concert (5/24/2017 5:32:52 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: longwayhome
It is against this backdrop that calls are made not to demonise all Muslims and to pull together as one community - not some kind of naive "welcome wagon" approach as you suggest.
Thanks for providing that perspective. I found it illuminating and candid. But I wonder if the need for such draconian police state measures, the losses of freedom and privacy, and to a measurable degree the problem itself, might have been avoided by a less generous immigration policy. All things considered, I find it hard to fault countries that choose a different path.
K.
Incidentally my personal view is that the state here in the UK has gone too far in some of its measures, especially when most of the good intelligence comes directly from the communities themselves. I'm not quite as relaxed as freedomdwarf1 about those things which potentially affect civil liberties which potentially have negative side-effects. I was just starting to tire of people on this thread implying that the UK is somehow soft on terrorism, when quite the opposite is true.
In terms of immigration, the vast majority of Muslims here were born here or migrated decades ago so that's old news. There was certainly a period in the nineties when we were not vigilant enough about some of the individuals we allowed to settle here, who subsequently attempted to stir up hatred in the resident Muslim community. It took far too long for the authorities to understand what was happening and act. A number of these people are currently detained indefinitely and have been removed from all positions of religious authority by the Muslim Council of Britain. That was however not a consequence of unfettered mass migration, rather a failure to properly vet individuals who came here with agendas, which should have been only too clear given their previous history of activism.
Unfortunately, in common with many other countries, we seem to be growing our own terrorists from people who were born and grew up here, rather than importing radicals from abroad. That's why community action is so important.
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