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"It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s nonsto... - 5/26/2017 9:09:43 AM

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DHS chief: If you knew what I knew about terror, you’d ‘never leave the house’

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly on Friday said the terror threat is worse than most realize, saying some people would "never leave the house" if they knew the truth.

“I was telling [Fox host] Steve [Doocy] on the way in here, if he knew what I knew about terrorism, he’d never leave the house in the morning,” Kelly said on “Fox & Friends.”

He noted there were four major terror attacks in the last week — in England, Egypt, the Philippines and Indonesia — "by generally the same groups."

“It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s nonstop. The good news for us in America is we have amazing people protecting us every day. But it can happen here almost anytime.”
Masked gunmen opened fire on a group of Coptic Christians driving to a monastery in southern Egypt on Friday, killing 26 and injuring 25 more.

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It isn't so much that so few Muslims are terrorists, as it is so many nations are becoming militarized Orwellian police states because of them, and for that reason alone are managing to slow down their typical Muslim methods of taking over - that they have been using with much success, for around 1,400 years

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RE: "It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s no... - 5/26/2017 9:18:28 AM

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He is inferring people should never leave their hovels - work out what that truly means and his motivations.

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Case 2. Death by the Irish troubles versus the dark savages from the sand dwelling lands x 25 years?
Case 3. Death by USA gun versus death my Islam, or is it mooselamb x 25 years in America?
Case 4. Death by white terrorist v Johnny Mooselamb in America 25 years?

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An asshole entertainment network quoting a asshole in the government.

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RE: "It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s no... - 5/26/2017 4:23:04 PM

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That DHSing is hard. How many in the US?

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RE: "It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s no... - 5/26/2017 8:07:19 PM

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Fear is the great manipulator of society. We all are to live now in constant fear and soon, you will fear your own police force, even if you're white.

They will do what they want to do, for...your own safety.

Oh yes, plus an extra couple hundred billion$ for the surveillance state.

Predictions anyone on when we get the trillion dollar 'Defense Dept.' budget ?

Fiscal 2018 = $640 billion

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RE: "It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s no... - 5/26/2017 8:26:32 PM

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I gotta say, I love the current Philippino President though. He does not back down from Terrorists. He is going all out war with them to eradicate them.

Those damn Islamic Terrorist in Philippines has been allowed to kidnap and behead too many European Tourists already! Now they even beheaded a Police Chief. Those guys seriously need to be put down.

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RE: "It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s no... - 5/26/2017 10:43:19 PM

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He is inferring people should never leave their hovels - work out what that truly means and his motivations.

~~Case 1. wicked is a bit daft and boscox a headcase~~
Case 2. Death by the Irish troubles versus the dark savages from the sand dwelling lands x 25 years?
Case 3. Death by USA gun versus death my Islam, or is it mooselamb x 25 years in America?
Case 4. Death by white terrorist v Johnny Mooselamb in America 25 years?

Got to agree with you there, Wicked.

Islamic extremism is indeed a scourge to be eradicated but unless you are in the Middle East or Pakistan/Afghanistan it is far less significant in terms of violent deaths than other dangers.

We lost far more citizens every year for many years as part of the Irish Troubles than Islamic Extremists. That goes for many European countries in the second half of the twentieth century in terms of political violence generated at home (e.g. Basque Separatists in Spain).

The epidemic of multiple shootings in the US far outweighs the occasional Islamic extremist atrocity.

That's not to minimise Islamic terrorism but it is the most ridiculous exaggeration to say that people wouldn't leave the house because of terrorism. By that calculation attending school or college in the US or driving a car should frighten the pants off people.

With the attitude described in the OP, we are telling the terrorists that they have won and we are all to scared to go outside. The guy has clearly had his backbone removed.

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RE: "It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s no... - 5/26/2017 11:15:35 PM

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I gotta say, I love the current Philippino President though. He does not back down from Terrorists. He is going all out war with them to eradicate them.

Those damn Islamic Terrorist in Philippines has been allowed to kidnap and behead too many European Tourists already! Now they even beheaded a Police Chief. Those guys seriously need to be put down.

I know you like hardmen who talk tough Greta, but I don't really think you understand the history here.

Duterte's hands were already steeped in the blood of the illegal killings of countless people before he even came into to office. The guy is a butcher and a thug, who has allowed local officials and vigilantes to kill journalists, political opponents and business rivals.

Cheering for such a corrupt, anti-democratic character who ruled by fear, brought terror to Davao and had his rivals killed because he is going after Islamic terrorists is like cheering for the wolf who slaughtered all the sheep because he sometimes kills another wolf. People were frightened to go to Davao as much because of the Police and vigilantes as the crime and armed opposition in Mindanao. He turned down ministerial positions in the government under at least four other Presidents because they would have restrained his brutal, illegal activity. Now he is President he has made himself immune to prosecution.

Other Presidents have gone to war with the NPA and Islamic groups with varying success, and there have also been periods with little violence as a result of negotiation. What Duterte is doing with regard to Islamic groups is therefore nothing new.

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RE: "It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s no... - 5/26/2017 11:18:41 PM

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I gotta say, I love the current Philippino President though. He does not back down from Terrorists. He is going all out war with them to eradicate them.

Those damn Islamic Terrorist in Philippines has been allowed to kidnap and behead too many European Tourists already! Now they even beheaded a Police Chief. Those guys seriously need to be put down.

I know you like hardmen who talk tough Greta, but I don't really think you understand the history here.

Duterte's hands were already steeped in the blood of the illegal killings of countless people before he even came into to office. The guy is a butcher and a thug, who has allowed local officials and vigilantes to kill journalists, political opponents and business rivals.

Personally I think those are the smear campaign by the corrupt politicians who are receiving big fat bribes from the Triads in Philippines for them to do their drug trade in peace, that Duterte is trying to shut down.

I think Duterte war on drugs is fantastic and his hardline methods was really effective in reducing the drug situation in the state he was Mayor in. And now he is bringing it country wide.

He is gonna weed out all the corruption in his country.

The support that Duterte has on the ground in Philippines and the margin he won his election in speak far more volumes from people who actually see the genuine purpose of his work, than all these smear alleged allegations that you are making about him here.

You just have no idea how corrupt Philippines political arena is. And tough actions needs to be taken to take out these guys who are homey with the triads.

Countries like Malaysia/Philippines/Indonesia. Their culture is, everybody takes bribe. Even airport customs in Indonesia, one time I went in with my passport less than 6 months and an airport officer told me if I paid him X amount of money, he'll let me into the country and close one eye about my passport. Of course I chose to fly back into Singapore, or else coming back might be another issue, might be seen as illegal entry. That's how crazy the corruption is at every level. In Malaysia, I can bribe police officers for anything I want. And usually if they do stop you, you simply bribe them to let you go. The PM of Malaysia got 680million dollars deposited into his private account by Saudi Arabian government. Into his PRIVATE personal account. I'd love to see how Trump can get away with that, if that happened. The PM of Malaysia was cleared of that, citing it was a genuine personal gift. Not a bribe. Har har har.

The PM said it was a personal Gift. I wonder how the US media will melt down if it was Trump who received multi-millions in "personal gifts" from Saudi.

And I grew up with my Filipino maids who raised me and they told me when election time comes. The candidates go door to door to visit, but they bring cash. So they give you cash in hand as a gift, hoping you will vote for them. And if you vote for them, they promise each voter more cash incentive. That's Philippines. You know in Singapore, our candidates go door to door and visit each household during elections too but never once were we even offered any gifts or anything. Just to say hi and listen to our concerns.

They need a hardcore duterte who refuse to be bribed by anybody and call everyone out for their corruption!

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RE: "It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s no... - 5/27/2017 1:03:35 AM

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I gotta say, I love the current Philippino President though. He does not back down from Terrorists. He is going all out war with them to eradicate them.

Those damn Islamic Terrorist in Philippines has been allowed to kidnap and behead too many European Tourists already! Now they even beheaded a Police Chief. Those guys seriously need to be put down.

I know you like hardmen who talk tough Greta, but I don't really think you understand the history here.

Duterte's hands were already steeped in the blood of the illegal killings of countless people before he even came into to office. The guy is a butcher and a thug, who has allowed local officials and vigilantes to kill journalists, political opponents and business rivals.

Personally I think those are the smear campaign by the corrupt politicians who are receiving big fat bribes from the Triads in Philippines for them to do their drug trade in peace, that Duterte is trying to shut down.

I think Duterte war on drugs is fantastic and his hardline methods was really effective in reducing the drug situation in the state he was Mayor in. And now he is bringing it country wide.

He is gonna weed out all the corruption in his country.

The support that Duterte has on the ground in Philippines and the margin he won his election in speak far more volumes from people who actually see the genuine purpose of his work, than all these smear alleged allegations that you are making about him here.

You just have no idea how corrupt Philippines political arena is. And tough actions needs to be taken to take out these guys who are homey with the triads.

Countries like Malaysia/Philippines/Indonesia. Their culture is, everybody takes bribe. Even airport customs in Indonesia, one time I went in with my passport less than 6 months and an airport officer told me if I paid him X amount of money, he'll let me into the country and close one eye about my passport. Of course I chose to fly back into Singapore, or else coming back might be another issue, might be seen as illegal entry. That's how crazy the corruption is at every level. In Malaysia, I can bribe police officers for anything I want. And usually if they do stop you, you simply bribe them to let you go. The PM of Malaysia got 680million dollars deposited into his private account by Saudi Arabian government. Into his PRIVATE personal account. I'd love to see how Trump can get away with that, if that happened. The PM of Malaysia was cleared of that, citing it was a genuine personal gift. Not a bribe. Har har har.

The PM said it was a personal Gift. I wonder how the US media will melt down if it was Trump who received multi-millions in "personal gifts" from Saudi.

And I grew up with my Filipino maids who raised me and they told me when election time comes. The candidates go door to door to visit, but they bring cash. So they give you cash in hand as a gift, hoping you will vote for them. And if you vote for them, they promise each voter more cash incentive. That's Philippines. You know in Singapore, our candidates go door to door and visit each household during elections too but never once were we even offered any gifts or anything. Just to say hi and listen to our concerns.

They need a hardcore duterte who refuse to be bribed by anybody and call everyone out for their corruption!

I have every idea of how corrupt the Philippines is Greta. I used to live in the Philippines and knew journalists whose colleagues Duterte had killed.

Disagreeing with me is fine but don't suggest that I know nothing about the Pilipinas and say you do because you had Filippino maids. You tried to suggest before in other threads that I know nothing about South East Asia. Sure I wasn't born there but I don't have to just read about this stuff online. I have said this in previous responses to your posts, but I wonder if you bothered to read them properly.

You missed out the part of my post where I said that "people were frightened to go to Davao as much because of the Police and vigilantes as the crime and armed opposition in Mindanao". That's not something I read about, it was my experience and the experience of people I knew. If you went to Davao you couldn't oil someone's palm with a small bribe you needed really big money behind you to be sure you could deal with Duterte's police as well as guns to deal with the rebel groups he was supposed to be dealing with away from the city. That didn't just apply to foreigners but also Filipinos who weren't related to one of Duterte's friends.

Duterte is the very embodiment of corruption. Even the Manila Times, the frightened mouse of Philippines journalism, roundly condemned the lawlessness and violent vigilantism he created and the deaths of journalists, human rights activists, business and political opponents at his hands. I haven't checked in the last couple of years but I bet they haven't dared say anything about him recently.

By the way Duterte also did deals with some warlike and violent Muslim groups MNLF and the MILF (who want to establish an Islamic State within the Philippines). The MILF, MNLF and the NPA were all offered a ceasefire last Christmas, despite their record of terrorist killings, but this was not extended to all groups. Easy to understand when you know that some of Duterte's family were members of the MNLF and the MILF. At the same time he has blamed the West for Islamic extremism and terrorism. It is difficult to see his war on terror as being anything other than going to war with those Muslim separatists he is not related to. If you liked him because he is anti-Muslim, like you, then you are a long way from the truth. For my part, the only way to end the Moro conflict is negotiation and giving the region autonomy without allowing them to implement Islamic Law.

You may like his strong words on foreign relations, drugs and terrorism, but Duterte is a violent warlord, promoting his family and business associates through murder and corruption. He is causing more violence and corruption than he is solving. Evidently it isn't corruption when it is your friends and it isn't murder if you are Mayor or President and someone else pulls the trigger.

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Although as you should know Duterte has claimed to have pulled the trigger himself.

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RE: "It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s no... - 5/27/2017 1:42:00 AM

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I have every idea of how corrupt the Philippines is Greta. I used to live in the Philippines and knew journalists whose colleagues Duterte had killed.

If you personally knew the people that allegedly he killed, then it's personal for you. But what proof did you have that he killed them? And if he did commit murder unfairly, why wasn't he prosecuted for it? He was just a Mayor then. Could have been brought up to the President at that point of time right?

To me, journalists have alot of personal agendas too. And many are not exactly fair and balance. So this is unverified allegations by them.

I expect a duterte rule to be very fearful, like everyone is afraid, one mis step and bad stuffs will happen to them.

Our founder started running Singapore this way in the beginning. Everyone was afraid to be thrown to jail if they go against him. It had to be done that way, to purify the country, get rid of the triads, the corruption in Singapore in the 1960's was like Philippines. Gangs run the show. Police were afraid of them. Bribery was prevalent. So LKY our Founder, went hardline and hardcore, which is what successfully did and bring Singapore to where it is today. I mean, he practically implemented death penalty for drugs. And went all out and put to death many druggies too. The west has a softer stances toward drugs and they tolerate it. They rather deal with the aftermath of what drugs do to their kids than actually get harsh on punishing people for even touching drugs first to make them fear touching drugs.

When the country is clean, he lightens up and loosen his grip on everything and make everything more relax. Like it is now. Police when I was growing up was harsh, fierce and authoritarian, and threatens to drag you into jail for anything, everybody feared them. Police today are like the perfect friendly smiling customer service officer who just wants to make you happy and serve you. It was a systematic evolution.

I don't see anything duterte style he is doing that hasn't been done in Singapore with absolute success. And because of all the children charity duterte is involved in privately that he has religiously done his entire life. I don't see this as this evil person you paint him to be. I think he is harsh but heart in the right place for what he wants for the country. Like Singapore's Founder.

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It's not about being personal - even neutral observers think he is a murdering tyrant. Greta just read up about the guy before you pronounce that you like him because you think he's hardline - and not just the headlines from his supporters. It's nothing to do with biased journalists. Journalists and all sorts of people disappeared in Davao. Duterte boasted about it.

He's not strict and authoritarian, he is corrupt and operates outside the law.

There is a difference.

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even neutral observers think he is a murdering tyrant

Neutral observer ? Do you also believe in unicorns ? But being on decent terms with the US he probably is a murdering tyrant. The US supports murdering tyrants all the time. Since the early 1900s at least.

Now if he was an enemy of the US then I would not believe that he is a murdering tyrant.

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And about the OP, this is just more fear mongering. Just like the red menace was used to get people to support the military buildup during the scam they called the cold war.

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DHS chief: If you knew what I knew about terror, you’d ‘never leave the house’

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly on Friday said the terror threat is worse than most realize, saying some people would "never leave the house" if they knew the truth.

“I was telling [Fox host] Steve [Doocy] on the way in here, if he knew what I knew about terrorism, he’d never leave the house in the morning,” Kelly said on “Fox & Friends.”

He noted there were four major terror attacks in the last week — in England, Egypt, the Philippines and Indonesia — "by generally the same groups."

“It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s nonstop. The good news for us in America is we have amazing people protecting us every day. But it can happen here almost anytime.”
Masked gunmen opened fire on a group of Coptic Christians driving to a monastery in southern Egypt on Friday, killing 26 and injuring 25 more.

Full article here

It isn't so much that so few Muslims are terrorists, as it is so many nations are becoming militarized Orwellian police states because of them, and for that reason alone are managing to slow down their typical Muslim methods of taking over - that they have been using with much success, for around 1,400 years

Yep and it has been happening since the beginning of mankind. The only difference is that now with modern media the whole world hears about it.

I live I a city and don’t really ever worry about a “terrorist” attack and if I lived in the country the only time I would ever even think about a “terrorist” attack is if I saw it on the news.

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DHS chief: If you knew what I knew about terror, you’d ‘never leave the house’

Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly on Friday said the terror threat is worse than most realize, saying some people would "never leave the house" if they knew the truth.

“I was telling [Fox host] Steve [Doocy] on the way in here, if he knew what I knew about terrorism, he’d never leave the house in the morning,” Kelly said on “Fox & Friends.”

He noted there were four major terror attacks in the last week — in England, Egypt, the Philippines and Indonesia — "by generally the same groups."

“It’s everywhere. It’s constant. It’s nonstop. The good news for us in America is we have amazing people protecting us every day. But it can happen here almost anytime.”
Masked gunmen opened fire on a group of Coptic Christians driving to a monastery in southern Egypt on Friday, killing 26 and injuring 25 more.

Full article here

It isn't so much that so few Muslims are terrorists, as it is so many nations are becoming militarized Orwellian police states because of them, and for that reason alone are managing to slow down their typical Muslim methods of taking over - that they have been using with much success, for around 1,400 years

He forgot the word, "unarmed."

If you knew what I knew about terror, you’d ‘never leave the house unarmed.

There. I fixed it for him.

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Yep and it has been happening since the beginning of mankind. The only difference is that now with modern media the whole world hears about it.

I live I a city and don’t really ever worry about a “terrorist” attack and if I lived in the country the only time I would ever even think about a “terrorist” attack is if I saw it on the news.

It's just not pretty though, the way they specifically target women and children

Neither is it pretty, the way leftist pretend it's alright that the Muslim cult demands such terroristic slaughter, as well as the way Muslims BY LAW sadistically treat women and gays, and virtually enslaves women as well as everyone else in lands that they control

Then go all apoplectic if a Republican jokes in private about grabbing willing groupies by the pussy, or if a mom n pop Christian bakery would rather not go against their beliefs and bake flaming gay wedding cakes

But Muslims slaughtering children etc, is no problem whatsoever

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Yep and it has been happening since the beginning of mankind. The only difference is that now with modern media the whole world hears about it.

I live I a city and don’t really ever worry about a “terrorist” attack and if I lived in the country the only time I would ever even think about a “terrorist” attack is if I saw it on the news.

It's just not pretty though, the way they specifically target women and children

Neither is it pretty, the way leftist pretend it's alright that the Muslim cult demands such terroristic slaughter, as well as the way Muslims BY LAW sadistically treat women and gays, and virtually enslaves women as well as everyone else in lands that they control

Then go all apoplectic if a Republican jokes in private about grabbing willing groupies by the pussy, or if a mom n pop Christian bakery would rather not go against their beliefs and bake flaming gay wedding cakes

But Muslims slaughtering children etc, is no problem whatsoever

Well the righties have the solution to all foreign problems just either make no commitment (art. 5 NATO) or just blow them (and a few 100,000 of their friends) up...problem fixed.

We all know those righties, never saw a war they didn't like as much in a few cases, managing to convince the left it was just alright. To the righties, we have the big hammer and everything looks like a nail.

Worse, if you don't follow these righties in their warmonering...you're a traitor.

Predictions, how long before the US attacks Iran ? Now there's a war the righties could really sink their teeth into and as long as always, the poor young lefties and ignorant righties...do the dying.

The Iranian people, regarding the theocrats that run the country through their own form of Islamic fascism, as the most recent invaders to Persia, have told foreigners that they would love for the US to come in and remove the theocrats but for a few weeks or months but...then get the hell out. Wishful thinking, I guess.

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