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tamaka -> RE: What makes a terrorist? (6/21/2017 10:00:19 AM)
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
Reading comprehension is not his thing.
What a hard life these people must have waking up with all their fears and manias. One or two are trembling in fear of "Muslim hoards" and one or two are enraged at Feminist broads. Zounds! What angst. [:D]
Vincent, it is not fear and mania that causes one to be at least somewhat concerned over Islam. It is an ability to view Islam in light of its history and its teachings accompanied with some amount of sense of self preservation for future generations. It is just as unreasonable to say 'there is absolutely no threat' as it is to say 'they are an absolute threat.'
Tamaka, almost all of the Islamic expansion occurred before the 11th Century.
It is ridiculous for Islamist propagandists to use that ancient history as a basis for instilling fear today. If you wish to view Islam in the light of its history as you say look at that history: Imperial Islam has been in disarray this past one thousand years. And look at more recent history: after WW2 the world entered a period of decolonization, 36 new nations were formed in Asia and Africa between 1945 and 1960. The unraveling of Empires that was begun reluctantly in 1919 became a reality after 1945. The historical trend has been the dismantling of empires. Notions of Islamic Imperialism are swimming against the tide of history. Furthermore, Islamic aspirations of empire would be confronted by unrelenting Western technology and fire power. It is unreasonable to be frightened by such a remote possibility. I mean really, it is a joke.
I see what you're saying but do you really think that ideologies which rule the people's beliefs need empires? I think it is more vice-versa. Empires need ideologies but ideologies do not need empires.
That is an interesting comment, Tamaka, seriously. Can you give some examples or elaborate on what you mean?
Something that has gone overlooked in all the raving about the blood thirsty Islamists is that when Islam was in power in Spain, Baghdad, and Constantinople, Christians and Jews were not forced to convert their religion. The Arabs (Moors) established major centers of trade, culture, science, and art in their conquered lands. Furthermore, after the Christian reconquest of Spain, the Jews were forced to convert or flee. Those who fled were welcomed and thrived financially in Arab Constantinople for centuries (15th Century) So, all this shit about Islamic jihadists who will enforce their religion upon others is contradicted by their own history of conquest, unlike the history of the Christian conquests in South America for example. It is unconscionable and ignorant of Islamist alarmists to spread their lying propaganda on this Forum and elsewhere. It is all lies.
My point was that people will seek out an ideology in which they place their faith in. Empires historically have chosen ideologies and forced them upon their people as a means of control. We really don't see that in modern day religions. There are some differences with Islam though, as i am sure you are aware. While Islam asserts that there is no compulsion in religion, they do charge a fee to those who are not Muslims to live in their society as a kind of 'protection fee'. They also do not allow their women to marry a non-muslim. These types of devices are not part of other religions, and they are the kinds of things that, over time, would cause more people to adopt islam rather than other religions.
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