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Shin splints - 6/14/2017 10:42:21 AM

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Fffffffuuuuuuccccccckkkkkk! I have been trying to run using the C25K Program, again (4th go round with this). I did fine until week four and now it's just all fallen apart.
I have shin splints and stupid plantar fasciitis.
I do that towel thing and heel drops, I have good shoes with orthotics- I rest between running days. I go so fucking slow that my dog basically doesn't run next to me, and just sorta walks or trots. Lungs and heart and doing fine- excellent even! But I have to stop because of shin splints every time.

What in the fuck can I do about this insanely frustrating pain?
Am I just not meant to run? Should I lose more weight first? Move to the elliptical?

I also have residual nerve damage in my left leg, but this has always been a problem, even before the nerve damage so I hesitate to think it's related.

Help me :(

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RE: Shin splints - 6/14/2017 10:56:24 AM

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What kind of surface are you running on? My Dr said no treadmills, and to choose asphalt over sidewalks, for some of what you described. Obviously you aren't using a treadmill since you have your dog with you, but the rest might be worth considering. I try to stick to walking trails, grass, or asphalt if nothing else.

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RE: Shin splints - 6/14/2017 12:18:22 PM

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I have done treadmill, but more often just asphalt or dirt roads. Elliptical might lessen the impact? But my dog won't get the benefits..

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RE: Shin splints - 6/14/2017 12:28:25 PM

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First, make sure you totally heal up before trying again. Then, maybe instead of "jogging" try running intervals. I'm no longer able to run at all, but when I was running I know it pounded my body more when I would go slow. So try going faster for a short distance, then slow down and walk about the same distance, then run fast again. I ran in the country and used the distance between power poles as my distance. Like run for two power poles, then walk for one or two, and repeat. It doesn't have to be an all out sprint. Just fast enough so your steps aren't "thudding".

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RE: Shin splints - 6/14/2017 1:10:05 PM

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RE: Shin splints - 6/14/2017 2:27:40 PM

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RE: Shin splints - 6/14/2017 2:29:34 PM

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RE: Shin splints - 6/14/2017 4:19:12 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: igor2003

First, make sure you totally heal up before trying again. Then, maybe instead of "jogging" try running intervals. I'm no longer able to run at all, but when I was running I know it pounded my body more when I would go slow. So try going faster for a short distance, then slow down and walk about the same distance, then run fast again. I ran in the country and used the distance between power poles as my distance. Like run for two power poles, then walk for one or two, and repeat. It doesn't have to be an all out sprint. Just fast enough so your steps aren't "thudding".

I had good luck with intervals before so perhaps this is the way. C25K is a gradual program but I think it is still too quick so I think I will follow this advice. And I suuuuppoooossseeee I'll wait longer than two days before getting back out there.

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RE: Shin splints - 6/14/2017 4:27:51 PM

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That's my response to that- mostly because I can never tell if you're trying to come for me.

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RE: Shin splints - 6/14/2017 6:12:46 PM

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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: igor2003

First, make sure you totally heal up before trying again. Then, maybe instead of "jogging" try running intervals. I'm no longer able to run at all, but when I was running I know it pounded my body more when I would go slow. So try going faster for a short distance, then slow down and walk about the same distance, then run fast again. I ran in the country and used the distance between power poles as my distance. Like run for two power poles, then walk for one or two, and repeat. It doesn't have to be an all out sprint. Just fast enough so your steps aren't "thudding".

I had good luck with intervals before so perhaps this is the way. C25K is a gradual program but I think it is still too quick so I think I will follow this advice. And I suuuuppoooossseeee I'll wait longer than two days before getting back out there.

As I understand it, shin splints are hairline fractures. I may be wrong about that, but if it's true you need to avoid running for much longer than a couple of days to heal them.

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RE: Shin splints - 6/14/2017 8:01:18 PM

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Nah- that would be a stress fracture, at least as I understand it? Back off to google...

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RE: Shin splints - 6/29/2017 10:09:53 PM

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Shin splints is a term used to describe shin pain associated with activity and the causes can be many. You have also indicated planter faciaitis. Most likely spelled wrong but an indication that you are too tight in the Gastroc Solius group. Your calf muscles. It takes intense stretching of those muscles to eventually relieve the pain. Look up the stretches recommended for both the Gastroc as well as the Solius and take a minimum of 10 minutes of intense stretching of each before and after a run. You can also get shin supports to help relieve the discomfort while doing activity.
Let me know if you need more information regarding this matter.

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RE: Shin splints - 6/29/2017 11:11:59 PM

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Best guide I've ever found, worth the $20, though no miracles either: https://www.painscience.com/tutorials/shin-splints.php

I've struggled with them for years, and it wasn't until I followed his advice to the T that I finally got over them enough to learn to start running.

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RE: Shin splints - 6/29/2017 11:15:52 PM

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In high school and college I ran long distance events in track and cross country. The coaches spent a lot of time discussing shin splints. As it was described at the time, it is the result of thin muscles along the face of the shin becoming detached from the bone, allowing the muscle tissue to painfully rub against the bone. The treatment was to tape the shins to hold the muscles in place until they had time to naturally reattach to the shin. At that time the coaches also told us that to run faster each stride should make ground contact on the pad of the foot and not the heel. However, I began to notice that runners who made ground contact with the heel and then rolled the foot so that the pad and finally toes were making contact, never seemed to suffer from shin splints. I adopted heel contact first, (similar to normal walking) and never suffered from shin splints, even though 20 to 50 mile jogs were common training runs for us. I do know from other runners who had them, once that muscle detached, you would not heal without taping, and healing took months if one continued to train with shin splints.
I'm no doctor, or sports medicine expert, so this is just my two cents based on personal running experience.

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RE: Shin splints - 7/4/2017 12:48:29 AM

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I got better by changing to negative heel shoes. Not all shoes or feet are the same. http://www.earthbrands.com/features-and-benefits

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RE: Shin splints - 7/6/2017 8:28:11 PM

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Thanks everyone. Running is off the table right now I think. I've got to lose more weight so back to biking and swimming for now. I think I might see a podiatrist to see if I have heel spurs...

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RE: Shin splints - 8/10/2017 7:10:24 PM

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Update:

Cortisone shot done today. fortunately no stress fracture. But goddamn that shot. It hurt so much.
But yah, podiatrist had a lot of useful things to recommend so i feel like I'm on the right track to healing this shit.

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RE: Shin splints - 10/23/2017 12:06:35 PM

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quote:

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Update:

Cortisone shot done today. fortunately no stress fracture. But goddamn that shot. It hurt so much.
But yah, podiatrist had a lot of useful things to recommend so i feel like I'm on the right track to healing this shit.

With a thyroid problem the cortisone shots are effing hell as they mess up the thyroid even more

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RE: Shin splints - 10/23/2017 2:44:03 PM

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I own Hokas now. I use ellipticals now.

I don't run anymore. I don't do jump squats anymore. I don't do burpees anymore.

This really sucked. But I have made it through the busiest part of the year at work and I can walk still and I haven't had tremendous debilitating pain in months.

LC- im no stranger to cortisone shots and thyroid woes. I realllllly didn't want it- but I sucked it up because that pain was worse than anything. I have to say- the Hoka shoes have made a huge difference in my life.

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RE: Shin splints - 10/23/2017 2:57:16 PM

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Do the Hokas really make that much of a difference?

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