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The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/9/2017 7:29:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Alright humans are stupid, all one has to do is study history, but some humans are clearly more stupid than others, and often they come together in large groups.

For example.

In AD 79, this rather large volcano in Italy got cranky and buried Herculium and Pompeii.

Since then it has violently erupted a few times, all of which were recorded.

Today 600,000 people live on the slopes of that volcano, knowing that a) it is still very much an active volcanic system, and b) it wiped out cities, towns and villages in the past.

Furthermore, even the Italian government admits that should the volcano erupt, there is no way to evacuate even a third of the people from the danger zone if it is a normal eruption, and if it is accompanied by pyroclastic flows, those 600k are cooked meat.

And this stupidity is not limited to Italians.

Indonesia has the highest number of active volcanoes of any country on the planet, many of them are known for catastrophic eruptions, and people live on the slopes of these ticking time bombs.

Not to mention all the idiots who now live within the total kill zone of Anak Krakatoa, or Son of Krakotoa, the volcano that wiped out over 100 k people in the 1880's. Now if that island blows, we are looking at over 3 million dead.

Okay, granted, most of them are probably Muslim which will make certain right wing bigots happy, but still.

In the beautiful state of Hawaii, there are people building houses on not so ancient lava flows, and thanks to the ongoing eruption in that state, many of those people found out that lava like water, takes the path of least resistance, hence the fact that there were so many previous lava flows where they built their houses.

Finally the continental US.

There are active volcanoes on the west coast, in point of fact, every one of the volcanoes in those west coast mountains are considered active, not dormant or extinct but active.

So, since the views are so great on those volcanic slopes, lets build a million dollar home there. Or a few dozen million dollar homes.

Hell lets build towns on old Lahar deposits fanning out from those mountains so we can see how many thousand can be wiped out by a nice mud flow when the damn mountain starts to get active.

I mean why let those folks in Central and south America have all the fun of drowning in volcanic mud in pre dawn hours?

And what brought this rant about human stupidity up?

Well, it seems that Yellowstone National Park (one of the few known Supervolcanoes) has seen record numbers of visits the last few years, and a record number of people getting injured from leaving the 'safe' walkways.

And over the last hundred years, the ground over the hotspot has been steadily rising and falling due to various volcanic processes, and the rise has been more than the fall in recent years....

You know, the same things they noticed about Mt St. Helens in the years before it blew its top?

So lets go walking around inside one of the largest volcanoes on the planet and then leave the safe places to walk so we can cook our feet on ground that is hot enough to fry hamburgers!

Now there is an upside to Yellowstone erupting.

The resulting volcanic aerosols pumped into the upper atmosphere will trigger a world wide volcanic winter that would last about 4 years and the resulting cooling of the planet could start a new mini ice age.

The Downside:
Of course the number of deaths world wide due to such a disaster, you know, no food growing and people starving and shit, would mean that about two thirds of humanity will die in the process....

The Upside to all the humans dead:

it would take the human population about 250 years to get back to the present level that is fucking up the environment.


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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/9/2017 7:35:28 PM   
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No different than people building houses on the Jersey Shore or the Hamptons knowing that within a hundred years there'll be another major hurricane. The hurricane of 38 destroyed almost every house in Cherry Grove except for the four that were found floating on the ocean afterward and were towed back to shore. In no time the community was completely rebuilt.

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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/9/2017 7:41:49 PM   
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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/9/2017 7:54:38 PM   
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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/10/2017 1:41:13 AM   
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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/10/2017 4:28:05 AM   
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Yeah, we do do some pretty inexplicable shit, don't we?

It's only inexplicable if you assume that people are smart enough to know better and recognise that what they're doing is ill advised.
I think that's jeff's point?

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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/10/2017 10:06:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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Yeah, we do do some pretty inexplicable shit, don't we?

It's only inexplicable if you assume that people are smart enough to know better and recognise that what they're doing is ill advised.
I think that's jeff's point?



While volcanic eruptions are rarely predictable, volcanologists have determined that many of these structures seem to have a semi regular schedule.

Yellowstone for example has erupted about every 650,000 years, and it has been 720,000 years since it last blew. Evidence points to larger eruptions than 'normal' after long intervals, but then there is a few examples of 'flood' eruptions over the hot spot after a long interval, which means a fissure opens and lava calmly flows out over a period of years.

Mt Vesuvius, was recently discovered to be a part of a much larger structure, a super volcano that actually encompasses part of the Bay of Naples. This structure tends to erupt violently every million years or so, and as such is about 125,000 years over due. Evidence points to less violent eruptions but longer duration when it lets loose. Something on the order of decades, and at least one that lasted over a century.

What is surprising about human stupidity, is that while science can be used to prove just about anything and humans for the most part will accept it, when the scientific evidence is presented to prove that the ground you are living on has a nasty habit of blowing up or wiping out thousands and possibly millions in the future, they tend to disbelieve or quote some bizarre odds that prove it cant happen to them.

What they dont realize or refuse to accept is that the longer the intervals, the odds against such a catastrophic even get smaller, thus getting closer to a sure thing it will erupt.

Basically, humans are playing Russian Roulette as a group, and when the inevitable eruption happens, they will be screaming "Save us!" and poor selfless idiots will brave being burned alive to do so.

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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/25/2017 1:10:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, (thank god no injuries or deaths) it had to happen sometime....

I received an email from a friend of mine explaining a shark related incident on Cape Cod.

First a little background.

Since the "Marine Mammals Protection Act" was passed, there has been a growing number of gray seals using the cape as a place to have pups.

This was fine until the Great Whites discovered the fact (locals are still trying to figure out how the great whites figured out there were seals on the cape after they had been absent for decades) and started showing up for the seal buffet.

Now, since gray seals are protected, the number of seals on the cape has exceeded 20,000. In fact some of the seal colonies are so large that on a clear day, they can be seen from the International Space Station.

There signs posted advising swimmers not to swim in the water near the colonies.

The number of colonies has reached the point that some seals are finding new real estate on which to sun bathe and raise their pups... near the famous beaches preferred by humans.

Yesterday, a woman was bumped in 5 feet of water by a 15 foot great white, who did not bite her due to the fact it already had a gray seal in its mouth. She feinted and had to be rescued by life guards.

Now to address the question poised by the locals.

The seals go in the water to hunt fish.
The seals do not use public bathrooms, and therefore piss and defecate in the ocean.

Great white sharks hunt by smell, and are equipped with some of the most sensitive odor receptors on the planet. So when they pick up the smell of seal shit in the water, being connoisseurs of seal meat, they will use their noses to find where the seals are.

20,000 seals are going to put a lot of shit in the ocean.

It does not take a person with a super genius IQ to figure that one out.

The second question has an equally obvious answer.

The second question is "how to prevent future incidents involving sharks?"

Stay the fuck out of the water! It is illegal to hunt or molest in any manner marine mammals, so the seals are not going anywhere.

Great White Sharks are also protected under Federal Law, and thus it is illegal to hunt, molest or cause permanent harm to great white sharks.


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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/26/2017 1:01:21 PM   
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if you assume that people are smart enough to know better

Sorry, but I am of the opinion that just about everybody is fully aware of the fact that a volcano fucks up everything near it when it blows.

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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/29/2017 1:02:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I think those living near mountains in Indonesia might be Buddhist. Calm acceptance of death if it happens.



Actually, it is a pretty even religious mix.

There was one incident a few years ago where one of the Indonesian volcanoes was clearly erupting and folks went up on the mountain to take pictures well within the government's established danger zone.

They were cooked alive in the pyroclastic flow...

On the island of St. Martinique something similar happened, a lot of people kept going back into the danger zone to work farms, and were caught when the mountain exploded.

What was worse was the fact that even after that, while the volcano was still erupting with pyroclastic flows on an almost daily basis, people still ventured into the danger zone to try and salvage crops that were buried in the previous flows.

And whoremods is correct.

When history has shown that there is a danger to living in a certain place, even in recent historic past (such as building homes on lava flows that destroyed previously built homes in the last 30 years while the volcano responsible is STILL erupting) is enough to say that humans are stupid and attempts to 'save' them from their own stupid behavior should stop.

Yes, it would be sad if almost a million people in Naples died on the slopes of that particular volcano, but consider the number of lives that would also be lost if the Italian government sent people in to get them out.

Nope, my solution is simple, if the damn mountain starts to blow, make no attempt to force evacuation. Let them burn.

Same is true on the American coast subject to hurricanes, stop making evacuations mandatory, half the people will ignore the order anyway and which means the authorities will have to use force.

Just make announcements that if they dont evacuate, the authorities are not going to put the lives of people in danger trying to rescue their happy asses.

And above all stop punishing Mountain lions for killing some shit for brains jogger who wants to go running around in their hunting area, or decide to buy houses in places that are known mountain lion habitats.

It makes more sense to put up a sign:

If you buy a house here, there is a good chance you might get mauled by a mountain lion, in which case the emergency services will not respond. You are stupid enough to buy here, then you can suffer the consequences.

As for swimmers who insist on swimming in the ocean when sharks have been sighted within yards of the beach, why should a life guard risk his life to save them?

Let them get back to shore if they can, then the life guard can call an ambulance.

This is especially applicable in areas where there are a number of fresh water streams entering the ocean. Makes for beautiful scenery, the perfect place for resorts for people to relax and enjoy the water.

One problem, these are the same places that bull sharks like to live in, and bull sharks go out of their way to break the rules, since they can live equally well in fresh or salt water (one 8 foot bull shark was caught on a fishing pole in the Ohio river, almost 2000 miles from the fucking ocean.)

And I do not care what the scientists say, "sharks do not particularly like the taste of human flesh."

Well, again, bull sharks clearly never read that book, since I have personally seen a 9 foot bull shark repeatedly strike a swimmer in the Florida keys. IF this was a 'bite and taste" behavior, that particular bull shark bit the poor person 8 times before it decided he was not happy with the taste. The person survived, but lost his right leg and spent six months in the hospital.

The really stupid part, was you could see no less than 8 of these fish from the beach, and this fact was pointed out to the swimmer before he entered the water.

Oh, and sharks are not dumb, mindless, eating machines.

They are intelligent and able to learn things...

Case in point, people attacked by lemon sharks in the Bahamas who have been habituated to the fact that humans come out and hand feed them for the tourists.

These people are bitten in the same place that those sharks have learned that the 'hand feeding morons' have their bait bags, on the ass.

So it is a case of "I know that human has a bag of fish on his ass, so I am going to get the bag instead of waiting." and it turns out that the shark bites the butt of some poor swimmer who had no clue.



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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/29/2017 2:15:36 AM   
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We've got a little river here and much of the land next to it floods a couple of times a year. When that happens, people drive around the blockades closing off the roads. Cars float in as little as four inches of water. And then fire departments have to rescue people in those cars.

The only thing that's stopped people from driving on flooded roadways are signs saying, if you do so you will be fined $10,000.
Since that was instituted, they haven't been asked to rescue anyone. Hitting people in the wallet is highly effective

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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/29/2017 3:51:33 PM   
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Better is if you get people to register and then heavily fine them for going into forbidden areas.

We've got a little river here and much of the land next to it floods a couple of times a year. When that happens, people drive around the blockades closing off the roads. Cars float in as little as four inches of water. And then fire departments have to rescue people in those cars.

The only thing that's stopped people from driving on flooded roadways are signs saying, if you do so you will be fined $10,000.
Since that was instituted, they haven't been asked to rescue anyone. Hitting people in the wallet is highly effective


I have given up on humanity, let em drown.

Of course, I also feel that parents who leave children in cars on hot days or people who do that to dogs should suffer the same fate.

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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/31/2017 2:27:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I grew up on the slopes of a dormant volcano - spits out smoke every hundred years or so, and had nightmares as a kid of the mountain exploding. An active volcano??? uh, no.

And to add to the list of stupid people in stupid places - everyone on the sea side of the San Andreas fault. Scientists have been predicting that part of California dropping into the sea for decades. Nope, not going to live there.....

And all the people who stand at the exaust end of an airplane, right next to the signs warning people not to stand there, and then complain when the plane blows them onto concrete and injures/kills them.

Or how about the idiot photographer who gets bumped by Justin Biebers vehicle as he is pulling out - moving vehicle - get out of the way or its your fault!

Darwin never had so many potential winners of his award......

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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/31/2017 2:31:31 PM   
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RE: The Epitome of Stupid Human behavior - 7/31/2017 3:47:14 PM   
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I grew up on the slopes of a dormant volcano - spits out smoke every hundred years or so, and had nightmares as a kid of the mountain exploding. An active volcano??? uh, no.

And to add to the list of stupid people in stupid places - everyone on the sea side of the San Andreas fault. Scientists have been predicting that part of California dropping into the sea for decades. Nope, not going to live there.....

And all the people who stand at the exaust end of an airplane, right next to the signs warning people not to stand there, and then complain when the plane blows them onto concrete and injures/kills them.

Or how about the idiot photographer who gets bumped by Justin Biebers vehicle as he is pulling out - moving vehicle - get out of the way or its your fault!

Darwin never had so many potential winners of his award......



Actually, the San Andreas fault would not drop a chunk of California into the sea, the fault actually moves south to north, so at the current rate of movement, in about a half million years, LA will be a suburb of San Francisco.

And for your information, a volcanic system that belches smoke every hundred years or so is not dormant, it is an active system. That belch of smoke is its way of letting off pressure, and as long as it does that, things are good....

Unless of course the system gets a massive influx of magma and gas, then not so much.

That is what happened to Mt. St. Helens, the mountain had a long history of small, almost passive eruptions, then over a year the system got a massive influx of magma, a lot more than a passive eruption could handle and the mountain blew the fuck up.

Which makes all those fucking morons living on the slopes of volcanoes on the west coast of the US all the more stupid. The USGS has repeatedly stated that there is not a single, non active volcanic system from central California through Alaska.

Hell there are 9 small caldera type volconic systems in the western US (not to be confused with the super volcano caldera such as yellowstone) all of which have the potential to equal 100 St Helens eruptions. (yellowstone would be like 1000 St. Helens)

And people are perfectly happy to live in the damn things just to make money off the hot springs, etc. I mean lets build a health resort on top of a magma lake, nothing could possibly go wrong....

In Idaho you have flood lava fields less than a thousand years old, but hey, it hasnt happened since white man showed up....

But native Americans have oral history stories about those rocks being hot enough to cook on, and not being molten.

There is the supervolcano in new mexico, the home to no less than six health resort to take advantage of the hot springs... so what if the geyser activity has increased every year since 1930 (kind of a hint that something may be going on UNDER the fucking ground) and a number of the hot spring baths has been closed for being too hot (not good form to boil visitors alive) and of course there are the Apache, Navajo, and Hopi tails of putting enemy prisoners in those very springs to cook them alive, some as recent as the 1700's.

And lets look at all the cities that grew up on top of the New Madrid fault zone in southern Missouri and Northern Arkansas. In the early 1800's a series of earthquakes rocked the region, some bad enough to reroute the Mississippi river AND for about two days, had the river flowing backwards.

So, lets build St. Louis and Memphis right smack dab in the 'smash the city to bits' zone. (there are a few others, namely in Kentucky)

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