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Musicmystery -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 7:17:03 AM)
Actually, if you read my post, you'd realize your assumption is incorrect -- indeed, I'm no fan of the ed dept, and hence, to use your phrase, you're full of shit.

Nnanji -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 7:17:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... So the ignorants who have no knowledge about any matters should and do dictate the curriculum? No more questions ... The parents of the child. Only a fascist would make your assumption and take away parental rights. The child's parents' authority should extend to every other child in the school district as well as their own , then? Those families can move to Venezuela. No, you can keep your socialism away from this country. Thank god you have no vote here.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 7:18:20 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 "The Scientific Case Against Evolution" Do you think, or expect anyone else to think, that an entity known as "the institute for creation research" is going to be anything like 1% independent? Be fucking serious willya? If you had posted something form an actual scientific journal, it might have credence. Well then show a dat or a cog in a fossil record. That's all you have to do. You don't need to be insulting. 1. I think you might have some typos. Pls elaborate. 2. If one wishes to be taken seriously, one might use sources that don't have orders of magnitude less journalistic integrity than Vox or The Washington Times. The source used makes the National Enquirer look like the Wall Street Journal. If you'd have read the post you were commenting on before you made your comment you'd see there was no misspelling. So, we're supposed to be looking for "Dats" and "Cogs" in the fossil record?[8\|] Digital Audio Tapes and Cogs are manmade. Of course they won't be in the fossil record unless one wants to say that machines evolved naturally.

WhoreMods -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 7:20:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... So the ignorants who have no knowledge about any matters should and do dictate the curriculum? No more questions ... The parents of the child. Only a fascist would make your assumption and take away parental rights. The child's parents' authority should extend to every other child in the school district as well as their own , then? What an idiot. Not an answer to my objection to your hilarious comment about having other people humour your desire to teach your children lies rather than the sciences being a parental right.

Nnanji -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 7:24:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 "The Scientific Case Against Evolution" Do you think, or expect anyone else to think, that an entity known as "the institute for creation research" is going to be anything like 1% independent? Be fucking serious willya? If you had posted something form an actual scientific journal, it might have credence. Well then show a dat or a cog in a fossil record. That's all you have to do. You don't need to be insulting. 1. I think you might have some typos. Pls elaborate. 2. If one wishes to be taken seriously, one might use sources that don't have orders of magnitude less journalistic integrity than Vox or The Washington Times. The source used makes the National Enquirer look like the Wall Street Journal. If you'd have read the post you were commenting on before you made your comment you'd see there was no misspelling. So, we're supposed to be looking for "Dats" and "Cogs" in the fossil record?[8\|] Digital Audio Tapes and Cogs are manmade. Of course they won't be in the fossil record unless one wants to say that machines evolved naturally. I was commenting on your comment. You seem to be confused. Perhaps go back and read the thread from the beginning.

Nnanji -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 7:26:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... So the ignorants who have no knowledge about any matters should and do dictate the curriculum? No more questions ... The parents of the child. Only a fascist would make your assumption and take away parental rights. The child's parents' authority should extend to every other child in the school district as well as their own , then? What an idiot. Not an answer to my objection to your hilarious comment about having other people humour your desire to teach your children lies rather than the sciences being a parental right. You are a good little kool aid drinking socialist aren't you.

Musicmystery -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 7:27:27 AM)
Actually that comment speaks to who would be running the socialist enterprise, not whether there would be one.

mnottertail -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 7:30:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: Musicmystery As this nation is set up, one central government doesn't dictate what the entire nation learns in the classroom. The state education departments and the local school boards do that primarily. They did pretty much entirely, until Bush intervened with No Child Left Behind, ushering in Common Core which in some states (like NY) actually lowered standards. Parents are welcome to share their views and to run for school board. Or for statewide office. Or national, for that matter. It's a matter of representation. Right...no child left behind isn't in every school. Well, actually it's not anymore. It's been replaced with the next college of Ed. Boondoggle. The Department of Ed is a big government (that's why you must like it) power structure that does dictate to states and local school districts. You're full of shit if you think otherwise. Credible citation please? Didn't think so.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 7:34:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji I was commenting on your comment. You seem to be confused. Perhaps go back and read the thread from the beginning. My comment was strictly that "The institute for creation research" could hardly be used as anything resembling an unbiased resource and those who wished to be considered seriously might pick other sources. No more, no less You then replied with a comment about "Dats and Cogs" in the fossil record which were not mentioned in my post and added something about not needing to be insulting. That last along with your posting on this thread is an indicator of extreme hypocrisy on your part.

WhoreMods -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 7:43:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... So the ignorants who have no knowledge about any matters should and do dictate the curriculum? No more questions ... The parents of the child. Only a fascist would make your assumption and take away parental rights. The child's parents' authority should extend to every other child in the school district as well as their own , then? What an idiot. Not an answer to my objection to your hilarious comment about having other people humour your desire to teach your children lies rather than the sciences being a parental right. You are a good little kool aid drinking socialist aren't you. So if parental authority trumps any socialist intervention from a government or education board, I take it you're fine with parents who feel that their parental authority extends to abusing their children, and feel that they should be left to get on with that?

heavyblinker -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 7:50:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... So the ignorants who have no knowledge about any matters should and do dictate the curriculum? No more questions ... The parents of the child. Only a fascist would make your assumption and take away parental rights. The child's parents' authority should extend to every other child in the school district as well as their own , then? What an idiot. Not an answer to my objection to your hilarious comment about having other people humour your desire to teach your children lies rather than the sciences being a parental right. The problem here is that you expect him to understand that a community that includes people trying to pretend their dogma is science might also include people with different backgrounds and different religious beliefs. Oh, and also parents who don't want their children to grow up to be fucking idiots like the ones who voted for Trump.

vincentML -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 8:15:01 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... So the ignorants who have no knowledge about any matters should and do dictate the curriculum? No more questions ... The parents of the child. Only a fascist would make your assumption and take away parental rights. No body is taking away parental rights. If you want your kid to learn something not taught in the public schools enroll him/her in an alternative of your choice. There are plenty available.

Real0ne -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 8:17:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: heavyblinker quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... but choosing your own curriculum would be religious freedom and we cant have that in america, no no no! Not letting them force children to accept their dogma as science isn't the same thing as burning down their church. Can you seriously not see the difference? and you prescribe to 100% statist domination of the mind and souls of people, holy shitteroid!

vincentML -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 8:18:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... but choosing your own curriculum would be religious freedom and we cant have that in america, no no no! Not in the public schools, no. Rather than having your religion fostered on the rest of the class we arrange for you to home school your kid. Problem solved.

Real0ne -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 8:19:12 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... So the ignorants who have no knowledge about any matters should and do dictate the curriculum? No more questions ... The parents of the child. Only a fascist would make your assumption and take away parental rights. No body is taking away parental rights. If you want your kid to learn something not taught in the public schools enroll him/her in an alternative of your choice. There are plenty available. and be forced to pay for state schooling and the establishment and growth of the state religion that you will never use. you have the right to choose and pay for the state religion, not only do you have the right you will fucking pay for the state religion and its growth within society to insure your religion is drowned out makes a fuck you will never use at the end of a barrel of a gun!! capice'

Nnanji -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 8:19:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... So the ignorants who have no knowledge about any matters should and do dictate the curriculum? No more questions ... The parents of the child. Only a fascist would make your assumption and take away parental rights. The child's parents' authority should extend to every other child in the school district as well as their own , then? What an idiot. Not an answer to my objection to your hilarious comment about having other people humour your desire to teach your children lies rather than the sciences being a parental right. You are a good little kool aid drinking socialist aren't you. So if parental authority trumps any socialist intervention from a government or education board, I take it you're fine with parents who feel that their parental authority extends to abusing their children, and feel that they should be left to get on with that? Perhaps if you read and comprehend what I wrote, which is a stretch. I said parents should have access to the people who choose ciriculum. A federal Department of unelected officials is very different than a local elected official. Now I know you were trying to be all cutesy with your witty response, but it had nothing to do with what I said. Which seems to be the case with you. Reading comprehension seems difficult for you, especially, it seems, in your kool aid haze.

Nnanji -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 8:22:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... So the ignorants who have no knowledge about any matters should and do dictate the curriculum? No more questions ... The parents of the child. Only a fascist would make your assumption and take away parental rights. No body is taking away parental rights. If you want your kid to learn something not taught in the public schools enroll him/her in an alternative of your choice. There are plenty available. Blonde stated she wouldn't allow ignorant parents control of what their kids learned. A pretty facist attitude.

Nnanji -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 8:24:18 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... but choosing your own curriculum would be religious freedom and we cant have that in america, no no no! Not in the public schools, no. Rather than having your religion fostered on the rest of the class we arrange for you to home school your kid. Problem solved. Sure, as long as when you home school you also pay the public schools in order to keep the union reps employed.

Real0ne -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 8:27:13 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: Real0ne quote: ORIGINAL: Nnanji ... I believe that the way this nation is set up, one central government shouldn't be dictating what the entire nation learns in the classroom. If parents want to teach that life climbed out of a lightning struck mud pool or was divinely created a few thousand years ago they should have access to the people who dictate the curriculum. ... but choosing your own curriculum would be religious freedom and we cant have that in america, no no no! Not in the public schools, no. Rather than having your religion fostered on the rest of the class we arrange for you to home school your kid. Problem solved. The problem is the state has overeached and has established itself as a religion. This happens when it favors one religion over another, such as bigamy laws, gay cakes and so forth, hence the state religion is being fostered and FORCED upon people. Thank you State...PROBLEM CREATED typical statist SOP. More problems more jobs for statist, nice racket.

vincentML -> RE: Creationist Belief Falling into the Dumpster (7/17/2017 8:27:17 AM)
quote: I read about a paragraph or so and then your women's studies thought process screamed so much ignorance I had to stop. Let's take, for instance, that you don't know what you're freaking talking about first. Perhaps you'll go back and read the context of the statement and then try to apply your women's studies to actually what was being discussed. Now there is a piss poor ad hom reply to Tweakabelle. Obviously you cannot defend your claim that infinite evidence alone can match the utility of Faith, the latter being the acceptance of a Truth based on no evidence. You don't see the inconsistency in your statement so you attack the poster who shows you what nonsense you are spouting. Commendable [8\|]

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