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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/1/2017 3:03:19 PM   
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So ICE was after him because of the rapes he hadn't committed yet?
Because of the breaking and entering I can only assume he already served time for?
No, they were after him for being here illegally, which is not a serious crime.

You can't arrest someone based on crimes you think they might commit or because you think their history suggests it could happen.

And you don't think he should be deported even though he is a repeat offender of both immigration and
criminal law. He has a record that makes him in desirable. Don't you believe that a nation has the right to
to set qualifications to enter the country. You clearly do believe in borders. This would mean you do believe in nations.



Of course he should be deported.
I doubt he will be released from prison any time soon, though.

My point is that before the rape, his only crime was being in the US illegally.

His crimes were serious enough and numerous enough that he shouldn't have been out.
And due to his status ICE should have been notified.
Your basic contention is that we do not have the right to control our own borders, which , if true, would mean we have no sovereignty.


I was wondering when the strawmen would show up.

After someone does their time, they are not a criminal anymore.
Local authorities do not enforce immigration law.

I HAVE NEVER SAID ANY COUNTRY HAS NO RIGHT TO CONTROL ITS BORDERS.


He has committed numerous felonies, if rather than catch and release they had given him reasonable
sentences he would still be in jail. If you can't control who comes into the country you have no control of the border.

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/2/2017 7:56:01 AM   
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He was also.deported 20 times before.
So this time he would not only have stayed deported, but also not hurt anyone?
Deporting him wouldn't have been mostly just a waste of time and money?

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/2/2017 12:14:42 PM   
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He was also.deported 20 times before.
So this time he would not only have stayed deported, but also not hurt anyone?
Deporting him wouldn't have been mostly just a waste of time and money?

Well, that could be. But OF the police had held him for ICE and ICE would have deported him, at least one senior woman would be a lot healthier both physically and mentally.

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/2/2017 1:57:55 PM   
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He was also.deported 20 times before.
So this time he would not only have stayed deported, but also not hurt anyone?
Deporting him wouldn't have been mostly just a waste of time and money?

As I said repeatedly with this many deportations thee should be a greater penalty.

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/2/2017 1:59:05 PM   
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He was also.deported 20 times before.
So this time he would not only have stayed deported, but also not hurt anyone?
Deporting him wouldn't have been mostly just a waste of time and money?

You still don't support enforcing immigration law.

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/2/2017 2:04:03 PM   
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As I said repeatedly with this many deportations thee should be a greater penalty.


How about that, and better border security

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/2/2017 2:33:50 PM   
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I support enforcing immigration law, seize the assets of anyone employing an illegal alien, peddle them, and incarcerate the criminal employers down to the lowest manager.

problem solved.

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/2/2017 3:15:45 PM   
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As I said repeatedly with this many deportations thee should be a greater penalty.


How about that, and better border security


Of course.


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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/3/2017 4:24:55 AM   
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I support enforcing immigration law, seize the assets of anyone employing an illegal alien, peddle them, and incarcerate the criminal employers down to the lowest manager.

problem solved.

Certainly punitive measures against the asshats who are creating a demand for illegal immigrants will achieve more than deporting illegals who'll like as not sneak back over the second they're out of the country.

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/3/2017 6:31:58 AM   
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I support enforcing immigration law, seize the assets of anyone employing an illegal alien, peddle them, and incarcerate the criminal employers down to the lowest manager.

problem solved.

Certainly punitive measures against the asshats who are creating a demand for illegal immigrants will achieve more than deporting illegals who'll like as not sneak back over the second they're out of the country.

Stricter enforcement of immigration laws wpuld include prosecuting anyone who helps them. That includes people who knowingly hire them and office holders who protect them.

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/3/2017 6:45:02 AM   
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I support enforcing immigration law, seize the assets of anyone employing an illegal alien, peddle them, and incarcerate the criminal employers down to the lowest manager.

problem solved.

Certainly punitive measures against the asshats who are creating a demand for illegal immigrants will achieve more than deporting illegals who'll like as not sneak back over the second they're out of the country.


Seizure laws are an out of control mess. While I think going after the businesses who exploit illegal immigrants is right and proper, I'd like to see better restrictions against property seizures against private citizens first. Currently, LE has a license to steal and that is unacceptable. As it is, the smaller businesses and family farms struggle to compete in today's market. The large corporations have the financial means to take legal actions against property seizures, so I see smaller family businesses and farms falling victim to dirty LEOs exploiting laws that are already trampling on our constitutional rights.


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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/3/2017 6:55:31 AM   
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as bama said, the premise of your position is that all employers of illegal immigrants are fully aware they are hiring illegals.

when illegals can create fake social security cards and get driver's licenses, they have all they need for "legal" employment.

and none of that really touches on illegals who are making their way through criminal activities.


winsome---I agree, its difficult to see how adding more to the seizure laws wouldn't also end up in more abuse.

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/3/2017 10:43:12 AM   
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as bama said, the premise of your position is that all employers of illegal immigrants are fully aware they are hiring illegals.

when illegals can create fake social security cards and get driver's licenses, they have all they need for "legal" employment.

and none of that really touches on illegals who are making their way through criminal activities.


winsome---I agree, its difficult to see how adding more to the seizure laws wouldn't also end up in more abuse.


A major felony committed by most illegals, is the pirating of citizen's identities

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/3/2017 12:42:03 PM   
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While I agree that going after employers who knowingly hire illegals is a necessary thing and needs to be much more frequent on occurrence, that does not take away from the necessity of deporting illegals when they are caught.

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/3/2017 1:24:50 PM   
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http://newbostonpost.com/2017/08/02/feds-bust-six-in-alleged-rmv-identity-fraud-scheme-to-benefit-illegal-immigrants/

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/22562690/ns/technology_and_science-security/t/illegal-immigrants-turn-identity-theft/

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jun/22/14-million-illegals-working-stolen-social-security/

https://cis.org/identitytheft

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 8/3/2017 3:26:47 PM   
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While I agree that going after employers who knowingly hire illegals is a necessary thing and needs to be much more frequent on occurrence, that does not take away from the necessity of deporting illegals when they are caught.


We need crackdowns on identity theft, knowingly employing illegals, and multiple illegal border crossing offenders, along with the new rules that the president is pushing forward

Which is exactly the kind of thing that got him elected president

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 10/7/2017 10:34:06 AM   
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His crimes were serious enough and numerous enough that he shouldn't have been out.
And due to his status ICE should have been notified.
Your basic contention is that we do not have the right to control our own borders, which , if true, would mean we have no sovereignty.


Without a border we effectively have no law and order. Bring in all the meth you want, all the lead pipe, child porn, rare animal parts for tiger soup. Anything goes


As Overdose Deaths Pile Up, a Medical Examiner Quits the Morgue

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/07/us/drug-overdose-medical-examiner.html

Even deadlier form of fentanyl reaches San Diego County

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/sd-me-fentanyl-crisis-20171006-story.html

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 10/7/2017 3:47:41 PM   
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His crimes were serious enough and numerous enough that he shouldn't have been out.
And due to his status ICE should have been notified.
Your basic contention is that we do not have the right to control our own borders, which , if true, would mean we have no sovereignty.


Without a border we effectively have no law and order. Bring in all the meth you want, all the lead pipe, child porn, rare animal parts for tiger soup. Anything goes


As Overdose Deaths Pile Up, a Medical Examiner Quits the Morgue

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/07/us/drug-overdose-medical-examiner.html

Even deadlier form of fentanyl reaches San Diego County

http://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/public-safety/sd-me-fentanyl-crisis-20171006-story.html

If the fucking dopeheads are allowed to die, it solves the problem.

Otherwise, why do you drag up shit that is months old and talk to yourself...........

Oh yeah.........trollin

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 10/7/2017 7:50:46 PM   
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wasnt that one of the things that Scrotus said he was going to look into?
I know its a huge problem for many people. Isnt it one of the biggest killers of white people? suicidal, overdoses? its quite a nasty problem, but its not just a sanctuary city issue, OR a "illegals" issue.

Suicides stats are horrible too, by gun, drugs, legal and illegal, prescribed and black market.
not just the US either.

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RE: Portland 'Sanctuary' Illegal Rapes Elderly Woman... - 10/8/2017 1:01:20 AM   
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In other RWNJ news, white people never rape anyone ever.

Never even implied.


It is implied because Bosco is posting it.

It your mind.

Ask yourself: If this crime was not committed by an illegal immigrant/Muslim/<insert minority group of your choice here>, would Bosco have started this thread? The answer is of course he wouldn't have started the thread. Why? It would not fit in with his political agenda.

Like any of the other threads Bosco starts that portray illegal immigrants/Muslims/<insert minority group of your choice here> in a bad light, the purpose of the thread, the sole purpose of the thread is to incite hatred against minorities unfortunate enough to attract the nasty pointed end of Bosco's hate, phobias and neuroses.

These threads are cynical heartless bigoted attempts to incite hatred, nothing more and most certainly nothing less.


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