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Hillwilliam -> RE: WSJ Reports Muller Impanels Grand Jury for Russia Probe (8/4/2017 11:19:23 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

A talking head was quoted on Al Jazeera tonight as saying 99.9% of Grand Juries return indictments. Is this figure true? We have nothing like that here so I have no way of judging.

If it is, then it's pretty clear that Mueller has someone other than Flynn in his sights. More sleepless nights for some high ups in Trump's Administration, who knows perhaps even Trump himself ....

I'd say yes with the caveat that the vast majority of Grand Juries hear many cases one after another. Therefore, they are highly likely to return at least one indictment.
From the experience of a friend that served on one, a much lesser percentage of individual cases garner an indictment.




BoscoX -> RE: WSJ Reports Muller Impanels Grand Jury for Russia Probe (8/4/2017 11:32:57 AM)


FR

Remember, Mueller is a close personal friend of Jim "Butthurt" Comey, and he has hired Democrat party cronies for staff. A couple of tidbits from Wikipedia:

Intimidation tactic[edit]

After a grand jury was commissioned to investigate whistleblowers organization WikiLeaks, grand juries have been accused of being used as an intimidation and persecution mechanism against whistleblowers who have been accused of leaking classified information.[53]

Rubber stamp for the prosecution[edit]

According to the American Bar Association (ABA), the grand jury has come under increasing criticism for being a mere "rubber stamp" for the prosecution without adequate procedural safeguards. Critics argue that the grand jury has largely lost its historic role as an independent bulwark protecting citizens from unfounded accusations by the government.[54] Grand juries provide little protection to accused suspects and are much more useful to prosecutors. Grand juries have such broad subpoena power that they can investigate alleged crimes very thoroughly and often assist the prosecutor in his or her job. Grand juries sometimes compel witnesses to testify without the presence of their attorneys. Evidence uncovered during the grand jury investigation can be used by the prosecutor in a later trial. Grand jurors also often lack the ability and knowledge to judge sophisticated cases and complicated federal laws. This puts them at the mercy of very well trained and experienced federal prosecutors. Grand jurors often hear only the prosecutor's side of the case and are usually persuaded by them. Grand juries almost always indict people on the prosecutor's recommendation.[55] A chief judge of New York State's highest court, Sol Wachtler, once said that grand juries were so pliable that a prosecutor could get a grand jury to "indict a ham sandwich."[56] And William J. Campbell, a former federal district judge in Chicago, noted: "[T]oday, the grand jury is the total captive of the prosecutor who, if he is candid, will concede that he can indict anybody, at any time, for almost anything, before any grand jury."[57]




WhoreMods -> RE: WSJ Reports Muller Impanels Grand Jury for Russia Probe (8/4/2017 11:36:36 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX
Remember, Mueller is a close personal friend of Jim "Butthurt" Comey, and he has hired Democrat party cronies for staff.

How terrible. No republican called Gringrich has ever done anything of that sort to try to lock up an impeached democratic president, have they?




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: WSJ Reports Muller Impanels Grand Jury for Russia Probe (8/5/2017 8:21:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


FR

Remember, Mueller is a close personal friend of Jim "Butthurt" Comey, and he has hired Democrat party cronies for staff.




The facts are the facts. Mueller's friendship with Comey means nothing. Either he produces facts to convince the House to impeach and the Senate to convict, or he doesn't.

And Trump gave 10x the amount of money to Democrats that anyone who worked for Mueller gave. (Not that it matters. Mueller is a special counsel, not a judge)




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: WSJ Reports Muller Impanels Grand Jury for Russia Probe (8/5/2017 8:25:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: outlier

https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-mueller-impanels-washington-grand-jury-in-russia-probe-1501788287


"Special Counsel Robert Mueller has impaneled a grand jury in Washington to investigate
Russia’s interference in the 2016 elections, a sign that his inquiry is growing in intensity
and entering a new phase, according to people familiar with the matter"



The noose is tightening. My prediction... The House starts in Spring 2018...

Senate trial starts in the Summer 2018.

Resignation (Nixon style) in the Fall 2018.




WickedsDesire -> RE: WSJ Reports Muller Impanels Grand Jury for Russia Probe (8/6/2017 2:28:49 PM)

My prediction was june 2016




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