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Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/8/2017 5:25:37 PM   
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Some of the fan fiction I have read has been good but a lot shorter than the John Norman books. I'm not a good writer but I was thinking of an outline after watching the Real Housewives (sluts) of New York. I imagine the Gorean raiders barging into one of their girls nights out and enslaving them. If and when Ramona complains she is fed to the Tharlarions as an example and the rest fall in line, kneel and spread their legs. While I don't advocate slavery I might make an exception for them especially Ladies Bethanny, Sonja and some of the others. After they are captured though where can the story go? I don't have any good ideas.
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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/8/2017 6:42:35 PM   
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Mudwrestling?

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/9/2017 2:00:18 AM   
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If you don't have ideas, you should read more porn or maybe ask on another board. Ask a Mistress would be a good choice for you. I am certain they can give you all sorts of help that just isn't available here.

The problem you see, is that to Gor books are allegory, not porn. They rate maybe a hard PG-13 throughout most of them. Read them and see for yourself.

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/9/2017 5:03:16 AM   
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quote:

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Some of the fan fiction I have read has been good but a lot shorter than the John Norman books. I'm not a good writer but I was thinking of an outline after watching the Real Housewives (sluts) of New York. I imagine the Gorean raiders barging into one of their girls nights out and enslaving them. If and when Ramona complains she is fed to the Tharlarions as an example and the rest fall in line, kneel and spread their legs. While I don't advocate slavery I might make an exception for them especially Ladies Bethanny, Sonja and some of the others. After they are captured though where can the story go? I don't have any good ideas.

The story can go to Gor, obviously.
There doesn't seem to be much Gorean fanfic out there, so go for it. The one piece I did see was a bit shoddy as well: somebody had just gone through a scan of Slavegirl of Gor and replaced Judy Thornton's name with the words "Paris Hilton"...

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/9/2017 4:27:36 PM   
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That could be a good idea, maybe the winner gets a treat or the loser is not fed.

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/9/2017 4:30:27 PM   
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I guess after thousands of pages the allegory wore off.

The problem with reading more porn is that it often isn't that good either.

I think the books rate more than pg-13 if you consider non consensual sex, abduction, slavery in them. Is the slavery an allegory?

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/9/2017 4:33:31 PM   
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That could be a good idea, maybe the winner gets a treat or the loser is not fed.


Winner gets to be used by the Masters. Losers get stuck with each other.

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/10/2017 4:06:01 AM   
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If you don't have ideas, you should read more porn or maybe ask on another board. Ask a Mistress would be a good choice for you. I am certain they can give you all sorts of help that just isn't available here.

The problem you see, is that to Gor books are allegory, not porn. They rate maybe a hard PG-13 throughout most of them. Read them and see for yourself.

Malkinius


Allegory of what? And if not porn, regardless of how mild you think it is, then why did Norman write a practical sex manual to accompany the series???

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/10/2017 6:32:23 AM   
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Bhruic....

He wrote Imaginative Sex because his publisher asked him to write it and paid him for doing so. Only the opening bit has something to do with his philosophy which is in the Gor books. It was one of the first books of its type to be published too. You will find that if you read it, it is rather tame as well. Well...tame by general BDSM standards. It is strictly bedroom play with an emphasis on play. The point is more enhancing a couples sexuality together than anything pornographic.

To others....one of the reasons there is very little Gorean FanFic is that Norman has actively discouraged it and if someone is trying to make money from writing it, had it pulled for copyright violations. His copyright agent has been pretty effective over the years at getting many of the pirated copies of his books removed from the net and sometimes the sites they were on as well. Not perfect by any means. Some are still out there but not as many as there once was.

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/10/2017 5:09:44 PM   
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I did have a thought on the same track but Goreans don't seem to favor woman on woman.

Its not the sex scenes but more of the plot about how they would act being enslaved. How would they complain what would the raiders do, I was thinking of sending the married ones home to their husbands tied up and the single ones of course being kept as playthings and servants.

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/11/2017 11:53:24 AM   
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When has anybody ever made any money out of writing fanfic?
I think even the collections of Kirk/Spock smut that were published during the '70s and '80s were printed as charity fundraisers, and most of the current stuff seems to be on the internet where anybody can download it without paying. What did I miss?

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/11/2017 4:00:24 PM   
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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/11/2017 6:30:36 PM   
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When has anybody ever made any money out of writing fanfic?


50 shades started off as fanfic... so I'd say the answer is yes.

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/11/2017 10:30:52 PM   
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When has anybody ever made any money out of writing fanfic?


50 shades started off as fanfic... so I'd say the answer is yes.

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/12/2017 3:55:52 AM   
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I noticed that this was in reply to yourself. I certainly do not disagree.

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/12/2017 4:48:15 AM   
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When has anybody ever made any money out of writing fanfic?


50 shades started off as fanfic... so I'd say the answer is yes.

Fair point.

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/12/2017 6:12:41 AM   
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Bhruic....

He wrote Imaginative Sex because his publisher asked him to write it and paid him for doing so. Only the opening bit has something to do with his philosophy which is in the Gor books. It was one of the first books of its type to be published too. You will find that if you read it, it is rather tame as well. Well...tame by general BDSM standards. It is strictly bedroom play with an emphasis on play. The point is more enhancing a couples sexuality together than anything pornographic.

To others....one of the reasons there is very little Gorean FanFic is that Norman has actively discouraged it and if someone is trying to make money from writing it, had it pulled for copyright violations. His copyright agent has been pretty effective over the years at getting many of the pirated copies of his books removed from the net and sometimes the sites they were on as well. Not perfect by any means. Some are still out there but not as many as there once was.

Malkinius


I realize that by today's standards, it is not porn... but at the time it was viewed as such - even castigated as such - and one can presume that is why the idea for imaginative sex came about. The series was very controversial in it's time.

I think the other reason there is little Gor fan fiction is that there just isn't enough there to captivate fans compared to Twilight or Star Trek. Also, Gor is designed to appeal mainly to young men, and I think that women are commonly the writers of fan fiction... or at least, readable fan fiction... if there is such a thing.

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/12/2017 9:12:44 PM   
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I realize that by today's standards, it is not porn... but at the time it was viewed as such - even castigated as such - and one can presume that is why the idea for imaginative sex came about. The series was very controversial in it's time.

I think the other reason there is little Gor fan fiction is that there just isn't enough there to captivate fans compared to Twilight or Star Trek. Also, Gor is designed to appeal mainly to young men, and I think that women are commonly the writers of fan fiction... or at least, readable fan fiction... if there is such a thing.


Actually, no. The publishers have long said that most of the Gor books were sold to women, not men. Yes, it surprised them too. You may be right about more women writing fanfic than men but I have no information to judge that point. It may differ based on genre and specific fandom. Fan writers have gone on to become professional writers including for the fandom that they wrote their own stories in. It was how they became known to some publishers and agents.

Most of the people who think the Gor books, or Imaginative Sex are porn have not read them. They are going on hearsay or having been told a few "juicy" bits about them. They are merely repeating what they have been told or read about them. Most of the time when challenged to read the books they refuse because they don't want to be proven wrong.

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RE: Fan fiction idea, Housewives of NYC abducted to Gor - 8/18/2017 3:56:13 PM   
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Well. I read them. There's all the makings of pulp fantasy yarn for young people, adventure, heroes, villains, sex, love, paga, collars on nubile bare footed women, sex, BDSM. A regular fetish fest for both genders, not that there is anything wrong with that you understand.

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