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Nnanji -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 7:56:47 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Anyway, back to the topic -- the point is that Arpaio was at war with the judiciary, and that's the attraction for Trump.

Having a president open attack and flaunt one branch of government is courting trouble.

At some point, he and the courts are likely to hit a stand-off, i.e., constitutional crisis.

That's what makes this pardon different from other controversial pardons.


I see... By pardoning that harmless old man who is a personal friend for a misdemeanor, the evil Nazi Russian robot president has destroyed the rule of law, like only an evil Nazi Russian robot can do... [:D]

Love your childish imagination btw, three-year-olds are cute

Remember when Obama really did openly attack and flaunt the constitution, and the other branches of government in ways that really were dangerous to the rule of law?

Obama is defying the Constitution on war - The Washington Post

Obama Administration Admits It Violated Judge's Order

Obama accused of defying court on drilling ban


Top 10 Ways Obama Violated The Constitution During His Presidency - The Obama administration has been the most lawless in U.S. history. Here are just a few examples to prove it.

Obama Defies Congress, Issues No-Deportation Order

Pardon one old man for a misdemeanor though... And it's the end of civilization as we know it

You drama queens really need to pull your heads out of your asses

There's just so much that I can choose from. Let me see...let me see. Okay, let's just do one. Say...the judge who was on the council for the Hispanic racist hate group "La Raza". Translated directly to "The Race". Which, subsequently after having been outed nationally changed its name because donations started falling off. Now just assume you're a Hispanic in court for whatever reason and you find out your white judge is on the council of an organization named...oh you choose..."White Men"..."White Race"..."The Congressional White Caucus"...Or taught at a University in the "White Male Studies" program. Are you going to tell me you don't think that Hispanic guy should question the judge on bias?




Musicmystery -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 7:58:49 AM)

Tell you what. If it concerned you about Obama, why doesn't it concern you about Trump?

Yeah. That's what I thought. So much for your constitutional concern.




Nnanji -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 7:59:52 AM)

Opps, sorry Bosco. Pushed the wrong button. The above was supposed to be in response to the idiocy in Tweak's post just above yours.




Nnanji -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 8:02:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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The hypocrisy of the left once again astounds me, for 8 years President Obama blamed everything under the sun on President Bush and the left not only agreed with him, they took up the cry and defended him.

Here we are not even a year out of Obama's second term, and the left throws a hissy fit every time someone brings up the past 8 years.


The economic crash and both wars were on Bush because they were his fault.
Note there was no economic crash during Obama's tenure and he made a sincere attempt to de-escalate the war.

'The people' rejected Obama's immigration policies out of ignorance-- that is the only way to describe anyone who seriously thinks terror and/or a fucking wall is a solution.

You just keep saying that. Once you lefties get all the statues you can officially go after the history books. You'll be a hero for your mumsey.




Nnanji -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 8:04:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Anyway, back to the topic -- the point is that Arpaio was at war with the judiciary, and that's the attraction for Trump.

Having a president open attack and flaunt one branch of government is courting trouble.

At some point, he and the courts are likely to hit a stand-off, i.e., constitutional crisis.

That's what makes this pardon different from other controversial pardons.

Certainly Arpaio was at war with the Obama Justice department. But then, according to Holder, his people, didn't include white males did it?




tweakabelle -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 8:04:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

No, there are not going to be two standards by which we judge presidents.

One standard for all.

I'm delighted to hear you say that " there are not going to be two standards by which we judge presidents. One standard for all" Bosco.

I recall you lambasting Obama for taking a golfing holiday every time he took a day or two off work. So precisely when can we look forward to you holding Trump to the exact same standard and lambasting him for his regular and (compered to Obama) lengthy golfing breaks each and every time he takes one?




Nnanji -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 8:09:16 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

No, there are not going to be two standards by which we judge presidents.

One standard for all.

I'm delighted to hear you say that " there are not going to be two standards by which we judge presidents. One standard for all" Bosco.

I recall you lambasting Obama for taking a golfing holiday every time he took a day or two off work. So precisely when can we look forward to you holding Trump to the exact same standard and lambasting him for his regular and (compered to Obama) lengthy golfing breaks each and every time he takes one?

There you go. You've hit on a subject you may be surprisingly good at reviewing. Why don't you do a paper comparing and contrasting Obama vs Trump golfing. Shouldn't take long should it. Say by Wednesday.




BoscoX -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 8:51:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

No, there are not going to be two standards by which we judge presidents.

One standard for all.

I'm delighted to hear you say that " there are not going to be two standards by which we judge presidents. One standard for all" Bosco.

I recall you lambasting Obama for taking a golfing holiday every time he took a day or two off work. So precisely when can we look forward to you holding Trump to the exact same standard and lambasting him for his regular and (compered to Obama) lengthy golfing breaks each and every time he takes one?


Conservatives pointed to the hypocrisy after leftists went howling mad over President Bush's golfing for eight years

Context matters







BoscoX -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 8:56:22 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Anyway, back to the topic -- the point is that Arpaio was at war with the judiciary, and that's the attraction for Trump.

Having a president open attack and flaunt one branch of government is courting trouble.

At some point, he and the courts are likely to hit a stand-off, i.e., constitutional crisis.

That's what makes this pardon different from other controversial pardons.

Certainly Arpaio was at war with the Obama Justice department. But then, according to Holder, his people, didn't include white males did it?


The war was begun by the left, Arpaio is a pawn in that war




BoscoX -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 9:42:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

There's just so much that I can choose from. Let me see...let me see. Okay, let's just do one. Say...the judge who was on the council for the Hispanic racist hate group "La Raza". Translated directly to "The Race". Which, subsequently after having been outed nationally changed its name because donations started falling off. Now just assume you're a Hispanic in court for whatever reason and you find out your white judge is on the council of an organization named...oh you choose..."White Men"..."White Race"..."The Congressional White Caucus"...Or taught at a University in the "White Male Studies" program. Are you going to tell me you don't think that Hispanic guy should question the judge on bias?


They're completely ridiculous

How dare the president question that judge's impartiality

They're howlers




MrRodgers -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 9:56:34 AM)


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

No, there are not going to be two standards by which we judge presidents.

One standard for all.

I'm delighted to hear you say that " there are not going to be two standards by which we judge presidents. One standard for all" Bosco.

I recall you lambasting Obama for taking a golfing holiday every time he took a day or two off work. So precisely when can we look forward to you holding Trump to the exact same standard and lambasting him for his regular and (compered to Obama) lengthy golfing breaks each and every time he takes one?


Conservatives pointed to the hypocrisy after leftists went howling mad over President Bush's golfing for eight years

Context matters


What hypocrisy ? The real hypocrisy is in how Trump derided Obama about all of the golf he was playing. In 4 years at this pace, and at $91 million so far, Trump's golfing costs will be $472 million.

Eisenhower...800 rounds or 100 rounds per year.

Trump projected to play 73 rounds a year and Obama played 42 rounds a year...some with the speaker.




MrRodgers -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 10:03:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Anyway, back to the topic -- the point is that Arpaio was at war with the judiciary, and that's the attraction for Trump.

Having a president open attack and flaunt one branch of government is courting trouble.

At some point, he and the courts are likely to hit a stand-off, i.e., constitutional crisis.

That's what makes this pardon different from other controversial pardons.


I see... By pardoning that harmless old man who is a personal friend for a misdemeanor, the evil Nazi Russian robot president has destroyed the rule of law, like only an evil Nazi Russian robot can do... [:D]

Love your childish imagination btw, three-year-olds are cute

Remember when Obama really did openly attack and flaunt the constitution, and the other branches of government in ways that really were dangerous to the rule of law?

Obama is defying the Constitution on war - The Washington Post

Obama Administration Admits It Violated Judge's Order

Obama accused of defying court on drilling ban


Top 10 Ways Obama Violated The Constitution During His Presidency - The Obama administration has been the most lawless in U.S. history. Here are just a few examples to prove it.

Obama Defies Congress, Issues No-Deportation Order

Pardon one old man for a misdemeanor though... And it's the end of civilization as we know it

You drama queens really need to pull your heads out of your asses

There's just so much that I can choose from. Let me see...let me see. Okay, let's just do one. Say...the judge who was on the council for the Hispanic racist hate group "La Raza". Translated directly to "The Race". Which, subsequently after having been outed nationally changed its name because donations started falling off. Now just assume you're a Hispanic in court for whatever reason and you find out your white judge is on the council of an organization named...oh you choose..."White Men"..."White Race"..."The Congressional White Caucus"...Or taught at a University in the "White Male Studies" program. Are you going to tell me you don't think that Hispanic guy should question the judge on bias?

Can't do it this way and you know it. Once a judge, then he's held only to the same standards as every other judge.

His background otherwise and race having making distinction in getting a judgeship, then his rulings deserve no public ridicule as the a final impartial arbiter jsame as all of the right wing, racist, capitalist fascists judges.




Nnanji -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 11:43:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Anyway, back to the topic -- the point is that Arpaio was at war with the judiciary, and that's the attraction for Trump.

Having a president open attack and flaunt one branch of government is courting trouble.

At some point, he and the courts are likely to hit a stand-off, i.e., constitutional crisis.

That's what makes this pardon different from other controversial pardons.


I see... By pardoning that harmless old man who is a personal friend for a misdemeanor, the evil Nazi Russian robot president has destroyed the rule of law, like only an evil Nazi Russian robot can do... [:D]

Love your childish imagination btw, three-year-olds are cute

Remember when Obama really did openly attack and flaunt the constitution, and the other branches of government in ways that really were dangerous to the rule of law?

Obama is defying the Constitution on war - The Washington Post

Obama Administration Admits It Violated Judge's Order

Obama accused of defying court on drilling ban


Top 10 Ways Obama Violated The Constitution During His Presidency - The Obama administration has been the most lawless in U.S. history. Here are just a few examples to prove it.

Obama Defies Congress, Issues No-Deportation Order

Pardon one old man for a misdemeanor though... And it's the end of civilization as we know it

You drama queens really need to pull your heads out of your asses

There's just so much that I can choose from. Let me see...let me see. Okay, let's just do one. Say...the judge who was on the council for the Hispanic racist hate group "La Raza". Translated directly to "The Race". Which, subsequently after having been outed nationally changed its name because donations started falling off. Now just assume you're a Hispanic in court for whatever reason and you find out your white judge is on the council of an organization named...oh you choose..."White Men"..."White Race"..."The Congressional White Caucus"...Or taught at a University in the "White Male Studies" program. Are you going to tell me you don't think that Hispanic guy should question the judge on bias?

Can't do it this way and you know it. Once a judge, then he's held only to the same standards as every other judge.

His background otherwise and race having making distinction in getting a judgeship, then his rulings deserve no public ridicule as the a final impartial arbiter jsame as all of the right wing, racist, capitalist fascists judges.

LMAO. This is the only time I've ever seen you defend the system. I defense of a judge that belongs to a racist organization that's fucking withTrump. Way to go lefty loonie team.




Lucylastic -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 11:47:47 AM)

Exactly when did obama publicly pardon anyone before they had been sentenced for the offense they had been found guilty of????




Aylee -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 12:28:02 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

Exactly when did obama publicly pardon anyone before they had been sentenced for the offense they had been found guilty of????



Are you suggesting that you would be fine with Arpaio's pardon if Trump would have waited and commuted any sentence as well?

Because otherwise I cannot see any reason to wait until after sentencing. The ultimate outcome would not have been different.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 1:41:17 PM)

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t isnt always Left or Right

Actually it NEVER is in the U.S.; In the States it is always right or more right. There is no left.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 1:43:32 PM)

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Funny how the righties are always on about "the law", but when one of their fucks get caught breaking the law, suddenly "the law" is wrong.




heavyblinker -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 1:55:53 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: heavyblinker

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ORIGINAL: subrob1967

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The hypocrisy of the left once again astounds me, for 8 years President Obama blamed everything under the sun on President Bush and the left not only agreed with him, they took up the cry and defended him.

Here we are not even a year out of Obama's second term, and the left throws a hissy fit every time someone brings up the past 8 years.


The economic crash and both wars were on Bush because they were his fault.
Note there was no economic crash during Obama's tenure and he made a sincere attempt to de-escalate the war.

'The people' rejected Obama's immigration policies out of ignorance-- that is the only way to describe anyone who seriously thinks terror and/or a fucking wall is a solution.

You just keep saying that. Once you lefties get all the statues you can officially go after the history books. You'll be a hero for your mumsey.


Yes, not only did the crash not happen during Bush's presidency, not only did he not invade Afghanistan or Iraq, there was actually a huge crash under Obama and he didn't pull any troops out of the middle east at all.
You know so much, Nancy-boy.




Nnanji -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 2:02:28 PM)

Oh poor thing. Butthurt and ignit. Oh well, sorry for you.




heavyblinker -> RE: Trump pardoning Arpaio (8/28/2017 2:19:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

Oh poor thing. Butthurt and ignit. Oh well, sorry for you.


Not surprising that that is all you've got, Nancy-boy.
You are such a fucking loser.




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