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Legal Experts: Pence May Now Be Implicated in Obstructi... - 9/4/2017 12:08:39 PM   
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Vice President Mike Pence could be implicated in certain crimes related to the circumstances surrounding the firing of former FBI Director James Comey, according to legal experts focused on the case.

One of those crimes may be obstruction of justice.

Professor Jed Shugerman, who teaches at Fordham Law School, took to Twitter over the weekend after news broke that Pence received a copy of the original draft letter outlining President Donald Trump’s reasons for firing Comey.

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Pence may now be implicated w/ S. Miller in conspiracy/aiding obstruction of justice,18 USC 1512 or misprision of felony @renato_mariotti https://twitter.com/maggienyt/status/903761835765227520


According to the New York Times‘ reporting, that letter was drafted by senior adviser Stephen Miller, contained thoughts from the president, ran multiple pages long and read like a “screed.” Its submission was argued against by White House counsel Donald F. McGahn II who criticized its tone.

McGahn won out and the original letter was not given to Comey. A copy was given to deputy attorney general, Rod J. Rosenstein, who then wrote the letter outlining the official justification for Comey’s firing.

According to Shugerman, Pence’s knowledge of the original letter opens him up to charges on three felonies: (1) conspiracy to commit the obstruction of justice; (2) aiding and abetting the obstruction of justice; (3) and misprision of a felony.



Shugerman based his accusations on two statements Pence made to the public after Comey was fired: (1) that his firing was unrelated to the Russia probe; and (2) that Comey was fired based on a recommendation made by Rosenstein.

Professor Shugerman’s logic appears to be that Pence’s statements are evidence that the vice president knowingly lied about the reasons for Comey’s dismissal and then attempted to conceal the truth from the public. Those lies, he argues, are enough for the two charges related to obstruction of justice.

Misprision of a felony charges would apparently stem from the same set of facts and occurs when someone is aware of a felony being committed and does not alert the proper authorities. Courts require the accused to have taken some form of affirmative steps to conceal the felony in question–which, in this case, would seemingly be the obstruction of justice.

In later comments on MSNBC‘s The Last Word with Lawrence O’Donnell, Shugerman added:

“Let’s keep in mind that the Nixon articles of impeachment included a provision blaming Nixon for misleading or false statements to the public–now that’s not a felony, but it was grounds for impeaching President Nixon. It may be grounds for impeachment of Vice President Pence.”

The theory that Pence is now possibly implicated in obstruction of justice has also been seized upon by iconic liberal law professor Laurence Tribe.

https://lawnewz.com/high-profile/legal-experts-pence-may-now-be-implicated-in-obstruction-of-justice/


Nobody has yet posted about this, Its been a busy week/end.
This comes from the info from the NYT
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/politics/trump-comey-firing-letter.html
Mueller Has Early Draft of Trump Letter Giving Reasons for Firing Comey
Its been interesting to watch all the possibilities and info over the weekend
Strange I cant find any info on RW sites, but heres another view from the hill.
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/348901-trump-draft-letter-on-comey-firing-complained-he-wouldnt-say-trump



No wonder NK is taunting Trump but at the same It is giving him distraction from what is going on with the investigation, with letters and who got copies, and who is implicated.
No one said presidentin was easy. oh wait....
Oh and Im as concerned about NK as anyone else, but what the fuck do you do about 2 mardy arrogant asshole toddlers blaming everyone but themselves for this massive possible clusterfuck of all clusterfucks.
Voting Trump in, wasnt a good idea really, now was it.

Sorry to mix the two subjects, but im tired...

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RE: Legal Experts: Pence May Now Be Implicated in Obstr... - 9/4/2017 12:10:52 PM   
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RE: Legal Experts: Pence May Now Be Implicated in Obstr... - 9/4/2017 12:23:24 PM   
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RE: Legal Experts: Pence May Now Be Implicated in Obstr... - 9/4/2017 12:55:18 PM   
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I have been predicting for a long time that Pence would get caught up in the shenanigans sooner or later.

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RE: Legal Experts: Pence May Now Be Implicated in Obstr... - 9/4/2017 1:52:08 PM   
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Cant say I ever mentioned tuppence on here for that.

A long time ago I asked who is third on the list?

For me to ask this back then I thought there might be a cascade failure - the can of lubricant WD and the aquatic creature ottertail are on awaiting. But I think it was mn-ottertail who gave me the list. But I cannot seem to remember who is 3rd.

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RE: Legal Experts: Pence May Now Be Implicated in Obstr... - 9/4/2017 2:00:37 PM   
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I think they already have him (Trump). Certainly they have his sprogs and team for sure. How deep does the rabbit hole go and the extent of the tentacles.

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