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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/30/2006 9:25:53 PM   
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My experience as a clinically depressed person, mother of a depressed and suicidal teenager, and family member of depressed people helps me to understand that yes, many times drugs are needed to stabilize the chemical balance in the brain.  And that drugs alone are not sufficient, a highly qualified therapist is generally needed.  (I also know it is very difficult to find a really good therapist!)

Let me also say, that without exception, all of the people I know, including myself, when suffering from a depressive episode, will say they are tired.  Sometimes that's all we can identify at that moment.  Sometimes we hide behind that excuse so we don't have to face dealing with something that is just completely overwhelming us.

And even with clinically depressed people, there are times when we can press on, pull ourselves up by the bootstraps, and get busy, which will help us feel better.  There are ways for the body to produce it's own seratonin.  But there are other times, when the episode is so bad that there's no way mind over matter will help.

I guess, basically, everyone is slightly different, even as there are similarities.  More to the point, within each person, there will be episodes of varying degrees.  Not only am I not willing to stop the combination of drugs I take, I am not willing to allow my teenager to stop taking his either.  As one of the previous posters wrote, suicide is much worse than any of the side-effects.  I did tell my doctor that I was concerned about sexual side-effects and weight-gain side-effects, and with that in mind, she prescribed 2 different drugs that working together, have not caused any significant side-effects.  Communication with your medical professionals is critical to your success.

The support, love, and encouragement of others in my life are also critical to helping me.  I tend to think that even when we are fairly certain that someone is just suffering from "the blues", our encouragement and support will help them "snap out of it" better than ignoring the mood, or telling them to get over it.  Compassion, empathy, understanding, and patience will always do more than anything else to help your loved one through an episode of any type.

As far as the lifestyle goes, it has also been my experience that a beautiful scene, where my Top allows me to deeply sub-space, and gives tender and loving after-care, will do a lot to alter the chemical balance in my brain.  I find such a relaxation, and release of stress and tension, and an overall sunnier and more cheerful outlook following such a scene.  I have also found that Tops benefit in a similar way, with an infusion of those healing chemicals as well.  So even if the temptation is to not participate in activities because you have no interest in them, try anyway, and in all likelihood you will find your interest during the scene or event, and be able to reap the positive benefits.

Depression has many faces, and there are no absolute answers for anyone, and the same individual will even respond differently from one episode to another.  We will lose out or miss many things in our lives, not just lifestyle related things, if we leave our depression untreated, no matter what treatment you choose.  Patience, support, love, encouragement, understanding, and caring will help your loved one in the path to recovery.

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/30/2006 9:42:28 PM   
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Tapestry, thank you for your post. It was simply beautiful.

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/30/2006 9:55:31 PM   
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"Depression is more than just the normal, temporary feelings of sadness and hopelessness associated with difficult life events. The symptoms of depression are often subtle at first. It can be hard to recognize that symptoms may be connected and that you might have depression. It effects approximately 15% of people in the United States.  Common symptoms include:

Depressed mood.
Inability to enjoy activities.
Problems concentrating.
Changes in eating habits or appetite.
Weight gain or weight loss.
Changes in sleeping habits.
Difficulty going to work or taking care of your daily responsibilities because of a lack of energy.
Feelings of guilt and hopelessness; wondering if life is worth living (common).
Slowed thoughts and speech.
Preoccupation with thoughts of death or suicide.
Complaints that have no physical cause (somatic complaints) such as headache and stomachache.
All of these symptoms can interfere with your quality of life. Even if you don't have major depression, if you have experienced a few of these symptoms for at least 2 weeks you may have a less severe form of depression that still requires treatment."  Taken from the Missouri network of care library 2006.

Depression is an illness that can be diagnosed and treated by medical doctors.  There is research currently out there debating over exactly the cause of it and the behavioral differences in people.  If you have a loved one that is depressed they may not be able to tell you how to help them but here are some things you can ask to do. 

1)  Offer to help remind them of their doctors appointments - try and get them into seeing at least their primary care physician because there are many related illnesses ie. thyroid disease, diabetes etc that have symptoms of depression.
2)  Go with them to their doctors appointments to help them listen, hear and ask questions.  At the end of the meeting you may want to help them get the next appointment should they need one.  Questions to ask:  Are there alternative suggestions?  What are the side effects of the prescribed medications?  How long before the prescribed medication is taken before its effects should be felt/seen?  Is there anything over the counter or other medications to avoid while taking this medication? Etc.   i will not debate the pharmaceutical ethics currently but will state that many medications may be needed if a chemical imbalance is causing the depression.
3)  If your friend will go with you offer to go for a walk with them, finish one task with them or help them start a meal.

Please also remember that most anti - depressants take 3-4 weeks to fully enter the body for full effect.  Taking the medication as prescribed is very important and will take longer than one month.  Before starting or stopping any medication discuss with the physician. 

All that being said openmindedslave, i work everyday with major depressive people.  i can not tell you the times when i have seen it physically impossible for them to get out of bed because it hurt too much.  So yes they miss out on the wonderful things of life.

On a side note if your friend is in the lifestyle and needs some help, i would highly suggest checking out the National Coalition for Sexual Freedom (http://www.ncsfreedom.org/) which will list kink aware professionals that have registered with the sight.



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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/30/2006 10:00:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Tapestry

My experience as a clinically depressed person, ....
 
......... wonderful stuff snipped here...

Depression has many faces, and there are no absolute answers for anyone,

......snip........more great shit... go back and read her OP!





Dear Tapestry, and all....

That was a smart, sensitive, well-written and touching post.

Thanks!  It's stuff like your post
that makes the time I spend
here in this weird forum of perverts really worthwhile.


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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/30/2006 10:03:53 PM   
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Syreena, good resource!
I attended one of their seminars this past January in Columbia,S.C.

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/30/2006 10:07:18 PM   
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yes, syreena. That was a very helpful post. Thanks for writing it and posting it.

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/30/2006 10:08:41 PM   
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I don't want to dwell on the past, or seem pathetic, or anything, but I have a probably not all that uncommon story of how unipolar severe depression affected my own life.

Firstoff- the good news is that depression (bi-polar or uni-polar, or one of the many kinds of other depression) is, over 80% of the time, considerd to be highly treatable. Plus, there are really much more effective (I think) medications to treat it on the market, with fewer drastic side effects, than was the case, even 10 years ago.

My father's side of the family has a high genetic pre-disposition to unipolar depression. Both my father's sister and a brother committed suicide due to untreated depression. I believe in my case, it is inherited, and not much else - even though I did have "talk therapy" when I first was hit by severe depression, it didn't seem to make much difference - I felt better when I found a medication that worked, though.

When I was 18, many moons ago, and has a college partial scholarship at the state university, I was hit at the end of the semester with what turned out the first of several episodes of severe depression (half a dozen lasting two-six months). It was very scary to me, because I suddenly lost interest in almost everything around me, lost over 20 pounds without trying, and had trouble concentrating, and cried a lot. This did not abate by the beginning of the next term, and I was forced to drop out of school temporarily for the next school term to try to deal with it. The next several years (until I was about 23) were a gradually lessening nightmare of various medications, doctors, quacky suggestions re: Alternative therapies, and even a shock treatment or two (which is considered by many doctors to be the "treatment of last resort"). I had the kind of severe depression that "nice people didn't talk about" (or really want to hear about, so my mother said).

My poor father was at his wit's end (and guilt ridden, because he thought is was "his genes" that had caused the problem, etc.). Due mostly to insistence and encouragement from my father, I stayed in school at the university - he wouldn't let me drop out, and said it would be wasting my brain, etc. My mother wanted me to go to secretarial school (to be fair, I think she was just tired of seeing me struggle). Nobody at the university, none of my teachers, or the other students, knew what I was going through, ever. Which made it all the sweeter when I was invited to join an honors program, and managed to get the first ever internship in my department (Marketing). I ended up graduating with honors and getting a great job. 

How it affected my sex life was a moot point, at least until Iwas Junior, when I finally started dating again (my mother had partially managed to convince me that nobody was going to want me anyway. I know she maybe didn't mean to make me think that, but I stayed away from guys for the first few years I was a student). I didn't want to have to explain why I was taking pills, how I sometimes had trouble remembering little things, even though I was smart, etc. I was very self-conscious about it and just didn't want to mess with dating at all.

When I did (finally, my sister fixed me up with someone) start dating, finding someone to get serious about had its own set of problems. I had made a decision I was not going to pass on these weird genes and was never going to have biological children. I was, however, more than open to adopting some, and do like them. Well - this managed to short circuit most of the relationships I had that got serious; many guys want their own children. We'd start getting serious and then we'd inevitably have "the talk" (which usually ended things between us ona romantic level). They may not have believed me when I said it was hard for me, too (but it really was). When I finally met my husband, I was thrilled he already had been married and had two teenage sons, and had had a vasectomy! I thought that was just about perfect, and it was porbably no small part of why we married, thinking back on it. Well, enough about all that. It's over.

But - the great news is -it is possible to live a completely normal life with depression, and that the medications today are more effective (much of the time), and also some of them specifically are marketed as offring no sexual side effects (in that they do not inhibit someopne's sex drive, whoch had, in th epast, been a major problem with some anti-depressats).

Having depression does not make someone a weirdo, or an untreatable mental case (although if left untreated, I'd ask them why they were sufferiung when so much good treatment is available). I have managed to live a very full life, I think.
I had some great corporate jobs, have hobbies I truly enjoy, many freinds, and do fulfilling volunteer work. This was, in no small part due to the fact I had support, and also coudn't picture living a half-life kind of existence (which is not at all necessary with the great meds that are available, and other kinds of help as well).   

Also, the roots of someone's depression can be varied, so to find out what is causing it, it is best to see a doctor. There is "situational depression" (someone has just had  a major, life-altering sad event, or several, that have jarred them). Also, "cumulative depression" (someone has several bad things happen to them in a row, and the stress for them just piles up, and they react with a depressive episode). There is bi-poloar depression, dysthymia, and the list goes on. But - it is extremely treatable.

- Susan


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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/30/2006 10:17:25 PM   
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enigmabrat: Good question.You know how bi-polar (manic depressive) people have "highs" and "lows"? Well - uni-polar depressives only have "lows". Really low lows. They never swing up to feeling "high", or even settle somewhere in the middle, as far as their mood. They just always feel down. 

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/31/2006 7:54:11 AM   
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Thanks so much for the hugs, Susan.  And thanks also for sharing your optimism -- that's a hard commodity to come by in a depressive episode.

I just decided to sit down and start sorting out all the problems I'd been letting accumulate in my life.  This required letting them stare me in the face, of course.  So I got a little bit accomplished, but then I went off and slept for over 24 hours straight.  Yuck.

I disagree with your comment about how depressives can't even have a neutral mood, though.  I find that I can and do attain a neutral mood frequently, at the price of disengaging from life.  By doing something completely mindless (eg. watching the idiot box, playing computer games, sleeping, reading CM...) I distract myself away from the depressive thoughts.  Of course, this solution requires gradually flushing my life away, but it's still very attractive.

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/31/2006 8:40:19 AM   
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QuietDom: I meant thay find it difficult to be in a nuetral mood if they sren't treating their depression (w/meds or therapy or both - whatever works). I am very glad you are feeling a bit better. I  know it's a drag sometimes. I was always a big fan of sleep; when I don't get enough, I am really moody. So I wouldn't beat myself up over that. 24 hours of it may be extreme, but maybe your body needed it? Good luck. HUG.

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/31/2006 8:46:25 AM   
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More likely that 24 hours without sleep would provide some temporary relief from depression.... excessive sleep is a retreat.

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Total sleep deprivation (TSD) for one whole night improves depressive symptoms
in 40-60% of treatments.  

http://www.psycom.net/depression.central.sleepdep.html

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/31/2006 12:50:59 PM   
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*I've read that the anti-depressant Wellbutrin is currently the anti-depressant med of choice for people wanting the keast sexually inhiniting side effects. Some anti-depressants do inhibit sexual expression, and I'd suggest considering if a spouse is taking one of those, and if so, ask a doctor for Wellbutrin instead (or ask them to recommend one that will not inhibit sexual expression).

- Susan  


Susan, i have suffered from depression and was on an SSRI for about 2 years - i suffered the sexual side effects of having zero desire and an inability to reach orgasm, even when i pushed myself to try. i suffered with this side effect - which i don't know, maybe was worse the the depression lol, for 2 years. When i told my doctor about it he eventually prescribed wellbutrin in conjunction with the SSRI saying that it would counter balance the sexual side effect and i would get my sex drive back.  Never happened and i got tired of walking around like a sexless drone.  It's not an easy thing to experience.

And to the OP - its almost impossible to function in a D/s relationship long term unless you have an exceptionally caring, understanding and patient dom.  When you cannot function daily in your own life, how can you be there to serve others??  Every aspect of your life suffers when you're depressed, which only digs a deeper hole to get out of.   Depression makes you miss out on life itself if it gets that bad.  i think everyone faces some kind of depression at least once in their lives, but real clinical depression is a beast you are gonna need help slaying.  Your focus can't be elsewhere when trying to get better.

Personally, if i were depressed, i would focus on myself and getting "back to normal" before i tried to form a relationship with someone.  Too many complictions and it's really not fair to the person you hook up with.  Good luck to your friend !

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/31/2006 1:06:58 PM   
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I know it's not that simple for someone with bonafide depression, but having had no first hand experience with it, it just seems that it's a lack of positive attitude when you are looking at it from the outside, looking in.



Ummm, I'm guessing you skipped over a few posts... right? Considering that Scooter explained that he was talking about people that simply used the "excuse" of being depressed... along with the post erin made to further explain that he wasn't referring to those that are "clinically depressed".
 
He also stated that he personally had never met anyone that was clinically depressed and these observations were made from seeing those that use it as a crutch rather then those that really do suffer from it. So, how about you read the whole sentence, huh?
 
Jewel


How could he be sure, he's not a doctor.  Depression can come in many faces.  The person doen't have to sit around crying or with a sad face all the time.  IN fact many are so ashamed they try to hide it by pretending - which is in itself so taxing. 

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/31/2006 1:49:37 PM   
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*fast reply*

I have a son who suffers from clinical depression.  At age 13 (clinical depression often starts at puberty) he tried to kill himself.  Now, his father is a major depressive, so I should have been watching, but he had always been such an even keeled kid that I wasn't expecting it to hit...so severely and so quickly.

The doctors at the hospital told me he needed to be hospitalized "for a while".  I refused.  Received from them a prescription for Prozac and wrapped all my crazy relatives around him.  I needed to work and sleep so that I could contintue to support my family.  My mother-in-law slept in his room with him at night.  His unemployed uncle (depression?) stayed with him during the days.  17 days later, he was back to his old self. 

Unfortunately, kids (and clearly a lot of adults too) think that depression is, in some way, a deficit of character.  When he was allowed to start taking his own meds (around 16) and he felt good, he stopped taking them.  Bang.  Back to the bottom.  Over the next four years, he was off and on meds  4 times.  It took him six years to graduate college, not because he wasn't bright, but because he would get off the meds (didn't want his roomates to know) and crash, stop going to classes and fail.

Around the age of 20, he finally decided that his depression meds were going to be part of his life.....for the rest of his life.  He is now employed at a good job, has a fiancee' and is living independently.  You'd never know he was depressed....and he probably wouldn't tell you because of the stigma attached to major emotional challenges.

Scooter has said he never knew anyone with clinical depression.  My guess is that he knows quite a few.  They just aren't going to tell you.  They too suffer from the stigma. 

There are some kinds of depression that aren't chemical in nature.  They are situational instead.  Your husband dies.  Sorry, I don't care what the DSM-IV says, you aren't going to be in a bright happy mood within 2 weeks.  Same thing with a divorce or any kind of real trauma.  These might be better treated by a therapist who can allow someone to talk without judgement like those who would just tell them to "get over it" or "pull yourself up by your own boot straps"  Sometimes people just need to let grief take it's course.  Doctors feel helpless in these instances and often prescribe drugs because they don't know what else to do and the depression "bothers" them.   There are no drugs for grief or trauma....just good friends and time.




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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/31/2006 5:29:27 PM   
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Sunshine:

I can identify with what you say your son went through.I remember well going off medication that I knew worked at least partially for me, simply because the side effects were so taxing: Dry "cotton" mouth, weight gain, and insomnia were a few that just made me so want to flush my meds down the toilet (one time I did. Sometimes the cure actually did seem worse than having the disease). But - somewhere in my early twenties, a miracle happened, and I finally found a drug that worked for me, after several years of trying ones that only partly worked, or did not at all. I also had very supportive family members (for the most part), who stuck by me - as you so much did for your son.

I can tell you, in my opinion, that even though he undoubtedly did much hard work on his own to get his life together while under the influence of severe depressions,(and hats off to him for doing that) that your support and those of your relatives was probably crucial to his current successes in his life. He is lucky to have you as his mother. Very lucky.

I see unmentionables all the time (small ones) at the Center where I volunteer, at that I know are very depressed (there was a 5-year old unmentionable there for awhile who kept trying to harm herself - she'd deliberately walk into the busy street traffic when we were on group outings, hoping to get kit by a cars I am sure, etc. She was finally transferred to an unmentionables' psychiatric facility). It makes me wonder how someone who is so obviously on the road to chronic illness so early in life is going to fare later on with such a bad family support system (or a lack of one entirely). Kudos to you for helping your son - I just believe it made a larger difference than you may ever know. I hope you give yourself the huge pats on the back you really deserve for dealing with this in such a courageous way. HUGS!

- Susan 

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/31/2006 5:33:09 PM   
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Scooter has said he never knew anyone with clinical depression.  My guess is that he knows quite a few.  They just aren't going to tell you.  They too suffer from the stigma


It is also possible that they do not know what is wrong and haven't sought treatment.  There are often other signs:  self-medication with drugs/alcohol, an unstable work history, an unstable life, in general.  I'm not saying that everyone who has depression is unstable in many ways, but some are.  Especially if they have a bi-polar element to their depression.


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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/31/2006 5:50:10 PM   
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velvettears: I am so very sorry you have been unable to retrieve your sex drive. i have heard that can ahppen, but personally had not met anyone to whom it had happened, and my heart certainly goes out to you. What a damaging medication side effect to have to live with - I am so very sorry. I remember having no drive and you've definitely got my sympathy, hon. You deserve to congratulate yourself for dealing the hand life has dealt you - hold your head high. You are dealing every day with something that I know can be so difficult, that you had absolutley no hand in anticipating. 

And you are right when you say that everyone probably knows someone with bad depression but are just not aware that person is living with it. I think people with this illness will do anything sometimes to try to cover for themselves so they can feel more"acceptable", "normal", etc. I think that is true for two reasons:

1) It is largely a misunderstood illness, and even with all of the Oprah shows, etc., and tv commercial advertisements for meds for it, etc. for many, there is still a big stigma attached to having it or having to deal with a family member who has it. Thank God that is lessening, but there is a ways to go for some.

When my father's brother killed himself, I remember my father told me there were anonymous phone calls my grandparents received for months where someone would just say to them: "Your son committted a mortal sin. Suicide. He will burn in Hell for that and rightly so". You better pray for his soul". How can people believe that ? How could anyone be that cruel? And yet- there are still people out there like this today. When my aunt killed herself, my father was so beside himself he could not attend the funeral. When I discovered what I was actually dealing with for myself, I decided (over a course of about 4-5 years): The buck stops here. No one else should have to go through this in this family. Enough is enough. No children for me (and do realize this is everyone's personal choice; but my family's had some rought times dealing with this particluar illness).

Th second reason is because (I think): It is sometimes more sensible to try to "put on a happy face", so to speak -if at all possible, although it can, at times, be a huge effort to do -if one's meds are not working, or if one is not being treated correctly for depression. Unless one is in the abject throes of the illness, things like work, school, and daily life all must be dealt with, whether one feels "up to it", or not. Although it can be tempting to just toss in the towel, it makes more sense and is more compassiionate toward family and firnds who honestly want to see the person get better, to make like thungs really are better. I know I did this (and someitmes just "faking it" did actualy make me feel a bit better, although I knew it was a medical condition requiring medication and I tool my medicine).  

Congratulations on handling things the best way you know how. it is no small deal and I wish you continued courage and the best of luck, too.

- Susan

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/31/2006 6:05:53 PM   
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So true, Katy. I know there are people out there who are dealing with it who probably don't even know they are doing that - because they think that's just the "way they feel", maybe because they have rarely felt much better than that in their lives (or maybe don't remember when they ever did, if they did). Or because they lack education of the symptoms, or because someone is encouraging them to "tough it out" (which is fine, I suppose, if it's minor, but certainly not if it's a major depression).

Even if a more minor depression, even then I have to ask why someone would suffer when some relief is available? It doesn't necessarily mean someone is going to become a pill-popping addict - most anti-depressants I am aware of are not habit forming. Also, if counselling could work for the person, and many major cities have counselling centers with sliding scale fees for those who are on a limited income, why not seek them out?  Would someone not see a doctor if they broke their thumb, instead of, for instance, all of the bones in their entire hand, on the principle it's a "less important" it be healed - because it's just a finger and not the entire appendage to which it is attached? Some might, but I probably would encourage them to see a doctor or go to a clinic.

Dysthymia (low-grade, mostly chronic) depression, often masks as a consistent "blah" frame of mind, not "serious enough" for some to feel their mood may even warrant seeking treatment. Ditto, sometimes, for people I've met who have SAD (Seasonal Affective Disorder). But - I end up thinking: Why would anyone want to deliberately live a gray existence, simply because it's not completely black? It makes little sense to me.And I do  think it sometimes takes a medical professionalto be able to diagnse the difference between someone who is, perhaps, a chronic "whiner", or just maladjusted, or is having a few bad days or  weeks, and someone  who is indeed suffering from depression - because there are so many variants to consider.

- Susan 


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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/31/2006 6:31:37 PM   
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I think some depressive people are overwhelmed with what they perceive as the hopelessness of their life.  They can't see beyond it or even think that it can be different and better.  Sometimes they don't have the stamina to move beyond work and home.  Medication isn't a cure-all, but it's a place to start for many people.  I've also read that light boxes and tanning beds can help.  Unfortunately there is a huge stigma attached to mood disorders and mental illness and it's a shame that this prevents people from seeking help.

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RE: Depression in your life and play - 7/31/2006 6:51:27 PM   
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Katy: I do agree with you about some depressed people feeling perhaps very overwhelmed and that might prevent someone seeking help. I can seem so futile.When one cannot conceive there is ever going to be a light at the end of the tunnel they are looking into, why would one be encouraged to try to see one? I think relatives and friends can make such a crucial difference sometimes, in encouraging (or not) someone to seek professional help, and in making them feel less (or more) self-conscious about what they might be feeling about what they are going through.

- Susan

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