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WhoreMods -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 4:44:53 AM)


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First a Republican president does a deal with Democrats. No link, you've all seen it.

Now:

http://m.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Did-the-Saudi-Crown-Prince-make-a-covert-visit-to-Israel-504777

Arab leaders visiting Israel.


But... Didn't Jimmy Carter bring peace to the Middle East??? They all said... !

Now President TRUMP is doing it instead???

You're comparing el presidente to Carter?
I thought that was a terminal insult* in republican circles...
*(an insult so insulting that if you say it to somebody, one of you is going to die)

Carter was an awesome human being but leader, not so much.
I daresay that he couldn't lead pissants to a picnic.

I certainly admire the stuff he's done since 1980 a lot more than his presidential career, but that doesn't alter the fact that he made an attempt to drain the swamp (all of which Reagan did away the second he got into the white house), suggested that an economic dependency on Arab oil wasn't a good thing (the oil crisis was already going when he said that, of course, but unlike his predecessor he didn't spend his term in office denying it was causing problems), took a hand in the D of E, and made a point of establishing financial disclosure rules on his donors . However big a fuck up of the hostage mess he made (and that was, if we're honest, as much the CIA making a point of fucking him up as incompetence on Carter's part), he certainly wasn't anything like the catastrophe he gets painted as, and if anybody can name anything an American president has done in the middle east that has proven more beneficial than the Camp David accord syrup boy is mocking since then, I haven't heard about it.

Remember Iran, Desert one, and his helping the terrorists take over Iran. Far outweighs Camp David.

How did he help the jihadists take over Iran?
Something like Khomeni became inevitable as soon as Truman deposed Mossadeq and put the shah back in power. How was he Carter's fault? Show your working out.

You don't remember do you that Carter undermined the Shah and helped Khomeni get into Iran..
Then he totally mishandled the hostage situation including sending a rescue mission which was proven to have
no chance of doing anything other than get Americans killed. Before they left it was proven that the choppers
couldn't handle the sand so he handed the jihadist a propaganda victory to get an edge on Kennedy.
Of course you claim to be from Saudi so you see anything that works out for radicals as being inevitable.

I don't care about people's place of origin but the rest is as usual...unmitigated bullshit. Choppers have been working fine in Iraqi, Kuwaiti and Saudi desert sands.

And what struck Desert 1 was a huge sand storm, impossible to predict and obviously much less of a risk than to 241 marines in their sleep on a Sunday morning.

Nothing but cheap ad hominem partisan attacks on Carter and because you have nothing else and most of the time.

Plus you are going to need to explain just how Carter undermined the Shah. Did offering medical care do it ?

In fact in terms of what really happened is that the Shah left Iran in Jan. 79 and in Feb. the Iranian govt, invited Khomeini into Iran. Where was the oh so glorious and patriotic 'oil-saving' CIA then ?

Carter's hindsight about the failed rescue mission is rather interesting. There was an interview he did in 2004 when he agreed that if he'd sent another couple of helicopters the rescue would have worked as planned, and he mentions that he was advised against doing so by three separate military and intelligence advisors who were convinced that sending more helicopters would have made the mission too obvious, and not stealthy enough. (He isn't, of course, evasive or tacky enough to blame them rather than himself for a failure that happened on his watch, unlike most presidents since.)




MrRodgers -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 12:16:41 PM)

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its lifted from the middle of this:

http://warnewsinformation.blogspot.com/2012/12/strategic-arms-reduction-treaties-1991.html



That's so funny. He cherry picked a couple of paragraphs from a blog with an author who's main contention was that Reagan needed to back away from Nucs because of a potential nuclear winter if they were used. And that is what millions and millions of people believe and that is how the corporate crooks stole all of our money.

That is so funny.

The "blog" doesn't even discuss his main thesis I'm sure he cherry picks paragraphs from other blogs to link to these paragraphs and...oh boy...that's how a revisionist world is created.

LMAO.

Well that isn't the source and there is no such thing going on and of course, you know it. You simply have nothing but to use character assassination, impugning my source if I did give one other than myself as you have no choice in these discussions.

You have no facts to back you up and keep throwing things out with nothing...like 'his main thesis' whatever that means in this discussion, if we can even call it that.




MrRodgers -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 12:19:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

First a Republican president does a deal with Democrats. No link, you've all seen it.

Now:

http://m.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Conflict/Did-the-Saudi-Crown-Prince-make-a-covert-visit-to-Israel-504777

Arab leaders visiting Israel.


But... Didn't Jimmy Carter bring peace to the Middle East??? They all said... !

Now President TRUMP is doing it instead???

You're comparing el presidente to Carter?
I thought that was a terminal insult* in republican circles...
*(an insult so insulting that if you say it to somebody, one of you is going to die)

Carter was an awesome human being but leader, not so much.
I daresay that he couldn't lead pissants to a picnic.

I certainly admire the stuff he's done since 1980 a lot more than his presidential career, but that doesn't alter the fact that he made an attempt to drain the swamp (all of which Reagan did away the second he got into the white house), suggested that an economic dependency on Arab oil wasn't a good thing (the oil crisis was already going when he said that, of course, but unlike his predecessor he didn't spend his term in office denying it was causing problems), took a hand in the D of E, and made a point of establishing financial disclosure rules on his donors . However big a fuck up of the hostage mess he made (and that was, if we're honest, as much the CIA making a point of fucking him up as incompetence on Carter's part), he certainly wasn't anything like the catastrophe he gets painted as, and if anybody can name anything an American president has done in the middle east that has proven more beneficial than the Camp David accord syrup boy is mocking since then, I haven't heard about it.

Remember Iran, Desert one, and his helping the terrorists take over Iran. Far outweighs Camp David.

How did he help the jihadists take over Iran?
Something like Khomeni became inevitable as soon as Truman deposed Mossadeq and put the shah back in power. How was he Carter's fault? Show your working out.

You don't remember do you that Carter undermined the Shah and helped Khomeni get into Iran..
Then he totally mishandled the hostage situation including sending a rescue mission which was proven to have
no chance of doing anything other than get Americans killed. Before they left it was proven that the choppers
couldn't handle the sand so he handed the jihadist a propaganda victory to get an edge on Kennedy.
Of course you claim to be from Saudi so you see anything that works out for radicals as being inevitable.

I don't care about people's place of origin but the rest is as usual...unmitigated bullshit. Choppers have been working fine in Iraqi, Kuwaiti and Saudi desert sands.

And what struck Desert 1 was a huge sand storm, impossible to predict and obviously much less of a risk than to 241 marines in their sleep on a Sunday morning.

Nothing but cheap ad hominem partisan attacks on Carter and because you have nothing else and most of the time.

Plus you are going to need to explain just how Carter undermined the Shah. Did offering medical care do it ?

In fact in terms of what really happened is that the Shah left Iran in Jan. 79 and in Feb. the Iranian govt, invited Khomeini into Iran. Where was the oh so glorious and patriotic 'oil-saving' CIA then ?

Carter's hindsight about the failed rescue mission is rather interesting. There was an interview he did in 2004 when he agreed that if he'd sent another couple of helicopters the rescue would have worked as planned, and he mentions that he was advised against doing so by three separate military and intelligence advisors who were convinced that sending more helicopters would have made the mission too obvious, and not stealthy enough. (He isn't, of course, evasive or tacky enough to blame them rather than himself for a failure that happened on his watch, unlike most presidents since.)

.....and now of course.




Nnanji -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 2:28:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MrRodgers

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

quote:

ORIGINAL: bounty44

its lifted from the middle of this:

http://warnewsinformation.blogspot.com/2012/12/strategic-arms-reduction-treaties-1991.html



That's so funny. He cherry picked a couple of paragraphs from a blog with an author who's main contention was that Reagan needed to back away from Nucs because of a potential nuclear winter if they were used. And that is what millions and millions of people believe and that is how the corporate crooks stole all of our money.

That is so funny.

The "blog" doesn't even discuss his main thesis I'm sure he cherry picks paragraphs from other blogs to link to these paragraphs and...oh boy...that's how a revisionist world is created.

LMAO.

Well that isn't the source and there is no such thing going on and of course, you know it. You simply have nothing but to use character assassination, impugning my source if I did give one other than myself as you have no choice in these discussions.

You have no facts to back you up and keep throwing things out with nothing...like 'his main thesis' whatever that means in this discussion, if we can even call it that.

BS...it's word for word what you posted.




bounty44 -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 4:14:13 PM)

its also here: https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/pcw/104210.htm

there is no author attributed. if I had to guess, id say that Imran khan is indeed the author (the BlogSpot site lists him) and the state.gov site unfortunately fails to give him credit.

its unclear who khan is, but theres a namesake professor of marketing who worked/works at murray state university and the university of Nebraska-Lincoln.








AtUrCervix -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 4:23:09 PM)

What is the world coming to under Trump?

(Hopefully less debt, more working, less taking).




GrandRapidsDom1 -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 5:02:52 PM)

DA PHUQUE!!!

I'm Grand Rapids Dom!!!

(Dat ain't me but...it would appear I have become....he!!!!)

Sheeeeeeeeeeeet...I can look up chics profiles...and be sumbudy ellllse!!! (It's like being invisible!!!)




GrandRapidsDom1 -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 5:05:59 PM)

Looks like I was last on...August 28....




GrandRapidsDom1 -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 5:08:20 PM)

(It's like being dead).

(Who loved me???)




Musicmystery -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 5:47:54 PM)


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

What is the world coming to under Trump?

(Hopefully less debt, more working, less taking).

Well, it hasn't worked out that way.

Especially the less taking.




AtUrCervix -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 6:01:22 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

What is the world coming to under Trump?

(Hopefully less debt, more working, less taking).

Well, it hasn't worked out that way.

Especially the less taking.


Yeah...that one's probably never gonna change.




Nnanji -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 8:09:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

What is the world coming to under Trump?

(Hopefully less debt, more working, less taking).

Well, it hasn't worked out that way.

Especially the less taking.

Really? Do you have a link for that? Because there's all sorts of news articles today (even on leftist sources) that the median annual income went up for the first time in a dozen years and the number of people on assistance went down.

Go figure.




Nnanji -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/12/2017 8:34:20 PM)

Oh...here ya go MM. I know it's difficult to find links:

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/census-bureau-median-incomes-climbing-first-time-since-2007/




bounty44 -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/13/2017 4:04:55 AM)

given their political worldview and animosity towards capitalism, i suspect the collectivists, at least some of them, see "median income levels going up" as a sign of MORE "taking."

and possibly less welfare as a peculiar form of "more taking" also.




heavyblinker -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/13/2017 4:25:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji
Really? Do you have a link for that? Because there's all sorts of news articles today (even on leftist sources) that the median annual income went up for the first time in a dozen years and the number of people on assistance went down.

Go figure.


Right, and it's all because of Trump.
8 months in and he is already responsible for all the good things Obama did.
Sort of like how Obama was responsible for the Bush nightmare.




Lucylastic -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/13/2017 4:35:48 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery


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ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix

What is the world coming to under Trump?

(Hopefully less debt, more working, less taking).

Well, it hasn't worked out that way.

Especially the less taking.

Really? Do you have a link for that? Because there's all sorts of news articles today (even on leftist sources) that the median annual income went up for the first time in a dozen years and the number of people on assistance went down.

Go figure.

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Oh...here ya go MM. I know it's difficult to find links:

http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/census-bureau-median-incomes-climbing-first-time-since-2007/



Sorry but thats not a trump asset, the figures are for 2016, not this year. Where was trump last year?
oh ya he was not the president




bounty44 -> RE: What is the world coming to under Trump (9/14/2017 7:57:17 AM)

a bit of a stretch posting this here, but its too good to not go somewhere:

"Liberals Surrender to the Awesome Power of Conservative Sexiness"

oh no comrades, townhall!

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It’s pretty obvious to anyone paying attention that the future belongs to conservatives – after all, it’s we conservatives who are reproducing. And the liberals? Well, just look at them. They make the gang at The Weekly Standard look butch.

Nearly buried beneath all the stupidity of the last week was a delightful admission by a young progressive woman that if you’re lookin’ for lovin’ you shouldn’t bother looking to your left. In Glamour magazine, which apparently still exists for some reason, lib scribbler Korey Lane, if that is her real name, confessed that “ I Can't Stop Hooking Up With Trump Supporters.” Of course she can’t – once you go red, you won’t stop ‘til you’re dead.

Um, it’s #science. You don’t hate #science, do you?

Look, it’s pretty clear that women naturally respond to men whose idea of initiating a romantic encounter doesn’t involve crying or abject, craven apologies for bearing the biological hallmarks of manhood. But that’s what liberal women have sculpted out of the already soft clay of liberal males. Their coastal elitist mommies and daddies, or other mommies, plop them down in some leftist college where the pierced and piercing fascist feminists get to work on them. These shrill harridans, aided and abetted by university administrators who have volunteered to go full Theon, then commence to mercilessly nag the poor femboys about toxic masculinity and accuse them of imposing patriarchy – as if these weenies could ever impose any kind of –archy on anyone. Pretty soon, these broken-spirited biomales have renounced their manly heritage and are sipping Chuck Shaw chardonnay spritzers and adopting cats.

The only way to save these lost souls is a massive infusion of guns and Guinness and V8 engines, stat.

But as painful as it is for these pseudo-males to be relegated to such a sorry state of sex role serfdom, the consequences are equally agonizing for the women who must take on these mere shadows of real men as their life partners. Do women seem particularly happy with men today? Ask a single lady what she thinks about the occasionally opposite sex, but give yourself a couple hours because once she gets going on “Why men in the 2010s suck” you’re in for a dissertation.

So it’s no surprise that Korey stepped in to the MAGA camp because she is really on an unconscious quest to MAMMA – Make American Men Men Again. Sure, she says her Trump-centric crush “was ill-informed, sexist, and loved to start arguments with me,” but in the end, Korey chose him over some pajama-clad geebo who just wants to curl up in his room in mommy’s house, put on some Mumford & Sons, sip a hot cup of cocoa, and peruse the copy of “What Happened” he got for 40% off on Amazon.

When it comes to Trump men, Korey admits, “I can’t seem to stop, especially since the election.” I’ll bet she can’t. It’s only natural that once she tried a real man she got a taste for it. Somewhere deep in her subconscious, via the echoes of eons of evolution, her reptile cortex is telling her, “The guy who has the assault rifle and the muscles will be the better choice to father a brood of strong young warriors who can conquer the competing tribes, and you’ll be queen of the wasteland!” At the same time, her lizard brain is warning her, “That guy with the light blue Obama ‘HOPE’ shirt will probably scream and demand you come into the bathroom and kill the spider for him – assuming he is identifying as male that day.”

The undeniable fact is that the future is going to be controlled by those with perfect attendance. If you aren’t there, you aren’t going to rule it. Liberal spawn are few, and the lucky ones who avoid the Planned Parenthood abattoir Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell can’t seem to stop subsidizing are not being raised as much as curated. A walk through a liberal coastal enclave means seeing middle-aged parents of young kids, mostly only children, helicopter-buzzing their offspring with their weird neuroses and bizarre fads du jour.

“ No gluten! Don’t pet that dog without rubber gloves! Running isn’t safe without your running helmet! And are you sure you wouldn’t rather wear a dress, Kaden? Because whatever gender identity you choose is totally valid!”

You can just see these useless parental units wishing, hoping, that their kid will decide she’s a boy and thereby make these bored mommies’ lives interesting and special. Oh, the pride they will feel when they get to explain to their equally empty-lived clique companions how “My Ashleighee now identifies as male, and now goes by Brint. Brint’s pronouns are ‘zig’ and ‘zug.’”

Remember that as our coastal liberal elites abandon things like traditional values and organized religion, they will fill the empty void left behind with pure stupidity.

And as for us normals, well, we need to keep on doing what we are doing – celebrating and embracing, with neither apology or irony, the normal and unique roles of men and women. And we need to keep pumping out kids – hell, conservative pundit Bethany Mandel was so eager to do that that she didn’t wait to get to the hospital and popped out her latest in the car. Her husband stepped up, ignoring the goo and the chaos, and helped make it happen, like a man. Can you imagine some wussy barista with a degree in Transgender Mime pulling that off without vapor-locking and collapsing into a weeping heap?

Yes, conservatives, be fruitful and multiply. You’re sexy and fertile, as liberals themselves attest, and that fact is only going to make the progs angrier. Sure, annoying them is its own reward, but there’s another reason. Things are going to get much, much worse before they get better, and we’ll need to outnumber these leftist drones if we’re going to save our country and our civilization.


https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2017/09/14/liberals-surrender-to-the-awesome-power-of-conservative-sexiness-n2380807




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