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RE: London Underground blast is terror incident - 9/25/2017 5:13:34 AM   
bounty44


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seeing as how I just posted that same quote to maniacal himself, id say little to none.

its a terribly unfortunate aspect of the forum and one I wish the moderators would crack down on.

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RE: London Underground blast is terror incident - 9/25/2017 5:15:56 AM   
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The attacks will continue for as long as the factors that cause the attacks continue unaddressed.

Getting Western armies out of Arab/Muslim lands and forcing Israel to conclude a just peace treaty with the Palestinians will eliminate two of the main reasons underlying the attacks. It's reasonable to suppose that these two issues would have to be settled before anyone can expect the attacks to cease. But there's virtually no chance of either happening as things stand.

So there's precious little reason to be optimistic ...
No. Islamic attacks are not political, they're religious. This fact has been demonstrated time and time again.

The Palestinians are a catspaw for their Arab brothers. They're used to do the dirty work of trying to annihilate Israel. And no government in their right mind will allow terrorists to dictate their foreign policy. Because Islam's fundamental mission is to take over the world - and if bombs help them do that, they will continue to use them.

Your ignorance of religious motivations and your support of terrorism are disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.


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RE: London Underground blast is terror incident - 10/20/2017 11:46:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bounty44

way to deal with the actual CONTENT misnamed in UK!

heres a relevant lament from one of your comrades:

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Now it's more often than not…personal attacks with no reference to the topic at all.



Lmao still calling the kettle black then potty.
Let me remind your stupid fucking ignorant arse that I did address greta content. I clearly said "FR........ Youre fucking stupid, ignorant and Islamophobic."

It would serve you better if you not only took not, but addressed racism and Islamohphobia at times yourself.

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RE: London Underground blast is terror incident - 10/21/2017 8:40:03 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
The attacks will continue for as long as the factors that cause the attacks continue unaddressed.

Getting Western armies out of Arab/Muslim lands and forcing Israel to conclude a just peace treaty with the Palestinians will eliminate two of the main reasons underlying the attacks. It's reasonable to suppose that these two issues would have to be settled before anyone can expect the attacks to cease. But there's virtually no chance of either happening as things stand.

So there's precious little reason to be optimistic ...
No. Islamic attacks are not political, they're religious. This fact has been demonstrated time and time again.

The Palestinians are a catspaw for their Arab brothers. They're used to do the dirty work of trying to annihilate Israel. And no government in their right mind will allow terrorists to dictate their foreign policy. Because Islam's fundamental mission is to take over the world - and if bombs help them do that, they will continue to use them.

Your ignorance of religious motivations and your support of terrorism are disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.



The Muslim cult is militaristic, political, and religious. Faithful, observant Muslims are determined that their cult will rule the world in the name of Allah



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RE: London Underground blast is terror incident - 10/21/2017 12:24:38 PM   
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riiiiiiight, that was "dealing with greta's content" as opposed to attacking greta personally.

and pointing that out to you and using "misnamed in uk" is the "pot calling the kettle black." riiiiiight on that one too.

as to your challenge, show me some real racism and islamophobia and i'll be happy to address it.

by contrast, what you all label as those things is laughably nothing more than the left not getting its way or being disagreed with, no matter how good the reasoning. but you just don't ever get that do you? none of you ever do.

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RE: London Underground blast is terror incident - 10/21/2017 4:31:15 PM   
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Whereas starting and ending almost every post with "oh no! comrades!" demonstrates your seriousness and well considered thought to the matter at hand, lord have mercy. You are expecting such relentless mental flatulence to be taken seriously as impart to any discussion, then, we are to presume?

You are not the entertainment that you entertain the notion of being.

You are in fact just flat-out stupid as stupid gets, no way around it. Every post of yours confirms it.




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RE: London Underground blast is terror incident - 10/21/2017 4:41:56 PM   
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The Muslim cult is militaristic, political, and religious. Faithful, observant Muslims are determined that their cult will rule the world in the name of Allah


Sometimes I do wonder, Bosco, if you really believe all that sort of old bollocks, why aren't you out fighting all the Muslims around you rather than writing on this forum? Are you lazy ... or maybe a bit of a coward, hmm?

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RE: London Underground blast is terror incident - 10/21/2017 5:41:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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The Muslim cult is militaristic, political, and religious. Faithful, observant Muslims are determined that their cult will rule the world in the name of Allah


Sometimes I do wonder, Bosco, if you really believe all that sort of old bollocks, why aren't you out fighting all the Muslims around you rather than writing on this forum? Are you lazy ... or maybe a bit of a coward, hmm?


Poor little peon

If you weren’t just leftist trash, you wouldn’t be constantly forced to rely on personal attacks and other such debate fallacies to defend the insanity that you were so unfortunately for you, indoctrinated into throughout your pitiful existence

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RE: London Underground blast is terror incident - 10/21/2017 5:58:31 PM   
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Organic Peroxides typically contain no Nitrogen and are therefore damnably hard (if not impossible) to detect.


There is actually a simple method developed for the DHS and Border Patrol that readily detects Nitrogen bearing organics even in sealed containers. And, the crazy thing about Organic Peroxides is that they will flag as N-16 under an activation analysis. (Oxygen conversion to Nitrogen with a hefty gamma as it drops back to Oxygen)

Nitrogen activates under a neutron flux and you can detect it via gamma spectroscopy. This concept is decades old and is part of the tech used in well logging to analyze soil strata without having to take lab samples. The engineering problem was to turn an analysis that needs a trained technician to an automated machine that can be monitored by marginally trained security personnel. (not trained in analysis and detection theory and methods. Not challenging the level of tactical training for their mission)

On the Mexican border and in some places on the Canadian border there are gamma spectroscopy detectors on the side with a retractable neutron source in the road bed. A scan is done to detect nitrated compounds in the cargo area of trucks. In some cases, a person might be asked to get out of a passenger vehicle and step inside to have papers reviewed. The passenger vehicle might then be scanned for nitrates.

The bug-a-boo of the system is nitrate fertilizer. Black powder fit for explosives and Triple 13 fertilizer kinda look the same. From what I heard from Border Patrol representatives attending a prototype run of this system in 2006; they planned a protocol that if they got a Nitrogen hit on a commercial vehicle with no nitrates on the shipping papers; that truck would get a detailed hands on search. A hit on a non commercial vehicle would be considered on a case by case basis with the amount of nitrates detected being the decision point. Yeah, every detergent made will show up under a gamma activation analysis but the concentration and localization would be the operators call whether to flag for a hands on search. A 17 pound box of Tide might require a search but a bottle of dish soap would not. (a couple of things used during the prototype test) And, we did enough proof of concept to show you could identify a quart bag of fertilizer hidden in a 55 gallon drum of sugar.

BTW, the half life for radioactive Nitrogen is 17 seconds. No residual radiation to worry about which was one point of using that type of non intrusive analysis.

It would be expensive but such a detection could be added to conveyor belt luggage scanners. But, then TSA would have to hire people that can pass a background check to be a nuclear license holder for more than a low power radiation generating device (baggage x-ray) The legal title is called Radiation Safety Officer - RSO. The person legally responsible for radiation sources. And yes, if you have an x-ray machine, you have to have an RSO. Even the wimpy dentist office models. Such a license is not hard to get but can be a bit time consuming as you have to document attending a class where you learn safe handling techniques and legal requirements. Then you pass an examination and wait for your records to be reviewed and certification issued.

A newer tech that also works to detect chemical hazards is x-ray fluorescence technology. That is currently off the shelf tech but does require licensed operators. (You don't need a license to operate a sealed conveyor belt x-ray machine but a gun type you could point at a person; yeah you need a license.)
https://www.thermofisher.com/us/en/home/industrial/spectroscopy-elemental-isotope-analysis/spectroscopy-elemental-isotope-analysis-learning-center/elemental-analysis-information/xrf-technology.html
The tricky part of the off the shelf units is that you have to identify compounds by relative ratios of component elements. No one has paid to have an automatic database to do so yet. I can personally attest that these are a wonderful method to identify arsenic, lead, uranium, radium, and even asbestos in a survey for remediation of hazards.


A U.S. specific gripe: Why does TSA insist that walk through bomb detectors aren't feasible when the NRC has mandated them for access to commercial nuclear facilities since 1992? Could it be that TSA doesn't trust their people to be able to tell the difference in the chap that spilled gasoline on his show while filling the car from the terrorist that stayed up late building pipe bombs in the kitchen?
(Yes, I've been held up at security because I got diesel on my pants leg when the filler pipe burped back. Had to wait for the watch captain to get done with turnover meeting to get permission to proceed with an explicable alarm.)

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RE: London Underground blast is terror incident - 10/21/2017 8:55:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Awareness
ORIGINAL: tweakabelle
The attacks will continue for as long as the factors that cause the attacks continue unaddressed.

Getting Western armies out of Arab/Muslim lands and forcing Israel to conclude a just peace treaty with the Palestinians will eliminate two of the main reasons underlying the attacks. It's reasonable to suppose that these two issues would have to be settled before anyone can expect the attacks to cease. But there's virtually no chance of either happening as things stand.


quote:

No. Islamic attacks are not political, they're religious. This fact has been demonstrated time and time again.


Oh, here we are, Mr. fat pants again.

You're right, though, even when not being right at all, which you've never been in any instance; nothing about Exxon's or British Petroleum's invasion of the Middle East had anything to do at all with religion.


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Your ignorance of religious motivations and your support of terrorism are disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.


(pounds fists on the floor, laughing).

Oh stopp!

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