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Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms


Yes
  6% (2)
No
  56% (17)
I would need to see the exact specifics before I can decide.
  36% (11)


Total Votes : 30
(last vote on : 10/18/2024 11:01:51 AM)
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MrRodgers -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 10:35:29 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterObsidiann

A proposal (my apologies). The "proposal" does not require a super majority, can you explain why?

Under Trump’s Plan, Tax Cuts Shrink
Over Time for Everyone but the Richest
By ALICIA PARLAPIANO and JASMINE C. LEE SEPT. 29, 2017

The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center (are these uneducated biased people?) released a preliminary analysis of President Trump’s tax plan on Friday, showing that the proposed tax cuts would get smaller over 10 years for all but the top 1 percent of earners. Some major findings: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/29/us/politics/trump-tax-plan-analysis.html?mcubz=3

My take on the uneducated article is no-one benefits by anything other than a pittance except for the top 1%, and the top 0.1% more-so. The top 95-99% seem to benefit a little. I see no real benefits for the other 95%.

President Trump himself categorically stated he would not benefit and yet all these changes could be worth $1 Billion to his empire.


I am shocked I tell...shocked !!




MasterObsidiann -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 11:08:07 AM)

As was I. I want my tax dollar cuts but clearly he lied to me. It is a good job he lied to no-one else I guess, ever.




WhoreMods -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 11:22:46 AM)

I hope he fails.
Can you still say that now that there's a orangewhite "man" in the white house?




AtUrCervix -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 2:08:34 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterObsidiann

A proposal (my apologies). The "proposal" does not require a super majority, can you explain why?

Under Trump’s Plan, Tax Cuts Shrink
Over Time for Everyone but the Richest
By ALICIA PARLAPIANO and JASMINE C. LEE SEPT. 29, 2017

The nonpartisan Tax Policy Center (are these uneducated biased people?) released a preliminary analysis of President Trump’s tax plan on Friday, showing that the proposed tax cuts would get smaller over 10 years for all but the top 1 percent of earners. Some major findings: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/29/us/politics/trump-tax-plan-analysis.html?mcubz=3

My take on the uneducated article is no-one benefits by anything other than a pittance except for the top 1%, and the top 0.1% more-so. The top 95-99% seem to benefit a little. I see no real benefits for the other 95%.

President Trump himself categorically stated he would not benefit and yet all these changes could be worth $1 Billion to his empire.



Apparently you missed the basics of the AMT which.....became more onerous over each decade, indeed...over each year (which...for clarity once again...is being eviscerated).

1 BILLION to Trump? Are you on crack????

The lowest of earners will see their taxable gross decrease by 100% (it's in all the papers).

(It's even on the Googlish).

But...to debate this is a complete fools game.....

THERE IS NO TAX POLICY BECAUSE THERE IS NO TAX BILL!!!!

Ya'll can scream as loud as you want....as long as you want....there will NOT BE A TAX BILL UNTIL AT LEAST CHRISTMAS!!!!!!!!!

Therefore....there is NO TAX BILL DEBATE TO BE HAD.




PeonForHer -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 2:53:36 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Made2Obey

Why do you care? No matter what happens with US taxes it won't affect you.
It's just not your issue.



So, us non-Americans should not care what happens to Americans, Made2Obey? We shouldn't give a toss about Americans' lives, because we don't hold American passports? I should only care about what affects me, personally, and at most the people in my own country - not any of my American friends?

What a repulsive philosophy.




GabrielLogos -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 3:05:55 PM)

Fuck no man! You should stay out of other countries internal politics and mind to your own.
Fucking outside interference from the Russians has the whole US divided.
No more Goddamn outside interference is needed.
Mind to your own screwed up country. You've got enough problems with foreign and homegrown terrorists to be worried about taxes in a place where you have zero influence.
What a disconnected complainer you are.




MercTech -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 3:10:49 PM)

Gotta love it, all the Executive has to say is, "We need to consider..." and it is all over the mainstream headlines "Trump is waging war on <fill in the blank>"
Try looking up the word "negotiation". Start high and let yourself be argued down to what you really want.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 3:17:13 PM)

We'll keep our noses out of your politics when you start keeping your politics out of our countries.




GabrielLogos -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 3:26:01 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

We'll keep our noses out of your politics when you start keeping your politics out of our countries.


The US could follow the advice of pre-WWI isolationists and wall itself off from the outside world and you'd still be bitching about the US.
Complaining about the lack of foreign aid and trade and how it has ruined your life.
It's just a case of bitter jealousy on your part.




blnymph -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 3:29:18 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

We'll keep our noses out of your politics when you start keeping your politics out of our countries.

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blnymph -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 3:31:17 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GabrielLogos


quote:

ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

We'll keep our noses out of your politics when you start keeping your politics out of our countries.


The US could follow the advice of pre-WWI isolationists and wall itself off from the outside world and you'd still be bitching about the US.
Complaining about the lack of foreign aid and trade and how it has ruined your life.
It's just a case of bitter jealousy on your part.



You could start with walling your lunatics off from the outside world ....




AtUrCervix -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 3:34:32 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

Gotta love it, all the Executive has to say is, "We need to consider..." and it is all over the mainstream headlines "Trump is waging war on <fill in the blank>"
Try looking up the word "negotiation". Start high and let yourself be argued down to what you really want.



(That sounds like logical thinking....you can't do that here).




GabrielLogos -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 3:34:41 PM)

Never get Congress that isolated. They all have escape tunnels left over from the Cold War days.




MrRodgers -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 4:10:36 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Made2Obey

Why do you care? No matter what happens with US taxes it won't affect you.
It's just not your issue.



So, us non-Americans should not care what happens to Americans, Made2Obey? We shouldn't give a toss about Americans' lives, because we don't hold American passports? I should only care about what affects me, personally, and at most the people in my own country - not any of my American friends?

What a repulsive philosophy.

That's what the US right does.




GabrielLogos -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (9/30/2017 6:09:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

quote:

ORIGINAL: Made2Obey

Why do you care? No matter what happens with US taxes it won't affect you.
It's just not your issue.



So, us non-Americans should not care what happens to Americans, Made2Obey? We shouldn't give a toss about Americans' lives, because we don't hold American passports? I should only care about what affects me, personally, and at most the people in my own country - not any of my American friends?

What a repulsive philosophy.


The Third Reich, for good or bad, was the most efficient government that ever existed in history.
Took Germany from a defeated bankrupt country with runaway inflation to a major world power in a decade.
Yet I am positive that you'd be screaming at any foreigner who felt it was okay to just chime in and suggest that Germany dump Merkel and bring back National Socialism.
No one wants other nationals telling them how to run their country.
Hold your opinion until America does something that actually relates to you, like a change in US foreign policy.




AtUrCervix -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (10/1/2017 3:15:16 PM)

I support the truth.




Musicmystery -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (10/1/2017 6:18:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AtUrCervix


quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

Gotta love it, all the Executive has to say is, "We need to consider..." and it is all over the mainstream headlines "Trump is waging war on <fill in the blank>"
Try looking up the word "negotiation". Start high and let yourself be argued down to what you really want.



(That sounds like logical thinking....you can't do that here).

Since I know you're a successful business owner, I know you know that's not how a negotiation works.

It's how beginners think it works.

Hey! I'll walk into McDonald's, tell them I want a job at $20 million a year, then slowly come down!

I charge my clients exactly how you do it -- value and what the market will bear.




LadyDemura -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (10/1/2017 8:22:20 PM)

Why not just a 100% net worth tax on all net worth over $100,000? That would actually resolve everything...even if the decimal point was moved, but why again should anyone be allowed to have more than the majority of people combined? Net worth tax is the way to go...take it all from the rich people, and maybe then the poor whites might agree to it???




Nnanji -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (10/1/2017 9:08:04 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: igor2003


quote:

ORIGINAL: Made2Obey

As a commenter on internal US affairs you are irrelevant.


I haven't gone back to check, but I don't remember you ever whining, screaming, or stamping your feet about Greta posting on topics of American politics. Did I miss something, or does she get a pass because she is pro-Trump?

By the way, she has already posted on this thread, so here's your chance to show us you aren't a hypocrite.

Except, I don't think he whined. I think he asked him why he cared. Again, a lefty having trouble with reading comprehension.




Dvr22999874 -> RE: Do you Support President Trump's Big Tax Cuts and Reforms (10/1/2017 11:39:02 PM)

So Peon commented on something going on in the U.S. ? Big fucking deal. Whatever happens in America at this time, affects the rest of the world and as such, I would sat that gives him every right to comment.
GL............If you think that Nazi Germany's government was efficient, it's small wonder you are Gung-Ho for trump, maybe you should learn to read something past ' The Loveable Spot' .........it was probably the most inefficient, top-heavy and corrupt government unhung, with people like you put into positions they didn't have the expertise or qualifications for. Anyway, How dare YOU, an American, comment on the government of another country. like Nazi Germany ?
I've been many times to your country; how many times have you been to mine or Peon's ? Or any other country in this big wide world ?
As he might say, " Wanker" and if he didn't, I do.




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