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Mousse for fire play - 10/3/2017 11:18:29 PM   
Pballer123


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Status: offline 		Which brand of mousse have you found works best for fire play?
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RE: Mousse for fire play - 10/4/2017 1:13:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		The fact that you are asking leads me to believe that you are not competently educated to be conducting fire play.

Hold on. Let me put on my 'Bill Nye the Science Guy' hat.

All fire play is related to chemical composition, the flame point at which some chemicals will ignite, and the temperature at which it will burn. The average person has dozens of common household items that will light up if they put a flame source to them. That doesn't say anything about whether using such as a fuel is a good idea for a human being. For example, I could mention two different 'name brands' of mousse that, while they both light up, are so far apart in being even semi-realistic for the potential use, that any bottom should run from anybody that doesn't know the difference.




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RE: Mousse for fire play - 10/4/2017 5:12:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have actually been to 2 different workshops where we used mousse for fire play. I just forgot which brand we used. And actually Ms. Nye the science gal. I am a science teacher and know about safety, which is why I came on here to ask rather than just pick up a random can or 3 and risk burning someone.

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RE: Mousse for fire play - 10/4/2017 9:18:59 AM   
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I have actually been to 2 different workshops where we used mousse for fire play. I just forgot which brand we used. And actually Ms. Nye the science gal. I am a science teacher and know about safety, which is why I came on here to ask rather than just pick up a random can or 3 and risk burning someone.

At least that last part was good.

Right off of the top, I have to make this comment. While I understand that everybody is different, I'd have went about this another way. If you went to two different workshops about this particular kind of play, I'm curious as to why you didn't contact the presenter(s) who conducted the class material. Even on the random chance that you don't remember the presenter's names, something very weird to me because any topping skill I've acquired over the years, I can assure you that I can name at least three people that I've ever attended a workshop about the subject, you should at least know where you attended, what (for lack of a better term) group/organization that held the event, that can put you in touch with who gave the presentation.

Are you still in AK? If you are, and you attended an event within the state, let's face it, it's not that hard for you to contact whatever organizer that held the event. (There's not a whole sh^tload up there as far as events that have these kinds of opportunities that a person couldn't contact whoever held the class through whomever held it.) If you traveled outside of AK for the workshops, don't you know where you went so you could contact people from geographical location???

I get that I'm old-fashioned about this subject. However, the entire JOB of a presenter is to educate. It's not to stand up in front of a bunch of people, doing something flashy (and fire play is flashy) to impress people with "look what I can do". If that's the case, they didn't "teach" you anything.

This aside, let's talk about science. Most people wouldn't take me for a chick who digs science, but personally, I find how we interweave WIITWD with science to be absolutely fascinating! Believe it or not, I'm not just a pretty face.

If you're serious about lighting somebody up, there's more to consider besides, "oh, that's sexually exciting," or whatever. (An activity that turns you on because you watched a couple of people do it, doesn't make you qualified to conduct the activity.) You LOOK at the chemical components and make DECISIONS based on the information.

I'll go for three. Why would you ever depend on an open cattle call for information, rather than relying on people that you KNOW can do a thing?


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RE: Mousse for fire play - 10/4/2017 2:26:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		A good friend on the other site is a fire top and does really cool mousse patterns. I'll ask him.

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RE: Mousse for fire play - 10/4/2017 5:37:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Why is it that so many people on the chat forums have to be so negative and try to find fault with every single thing that other people say here. One of the workshops took place last summer during Northern Exposure, an intense 3 day workshop and the presenter was from South Carolina and I do not have her contact information. The other workshop was in Anchorage and I only have the presenters "lifestyle" name and I do not have a way to contact him other than going through the club and they have a policy of not giving out personal information about members but they could live a note for him the next time he is in. I actually live 400 miles from Anchorage and just wanted the information for future reference because I did not list the recommended brands of mousse in my notes, I just remember that some worked better than others.

Simple question that someone has to make a federal case out of.

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RE: Mousse for fire play - 10/5/2017 10:29:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've presented at Northern Exposure in the past. You can track down any presenter, no matter which year, by going through the Northern Exposure group over on Fet. There were actually separate groups created for the first Northern Exposure, as well as NE2.0 and NE3 (the one that I presented at). After that, it switched over to a group called the "Official Northern Exposure Group" and they have the bio of all of the presenters there as separate threads. If you can't remember which presenter gave the class, you can write the group owner to ask who gave it. One sad note on this. You need to specifically write FF (you'll see who I mean when you view the group owners on the side of the Fet page). BBJ passed away a few years ago.

FF is also the person that you can contact if the other class you attended was at a place called ACAL. (It stands for Alaska Center of Alternative Lifestyles.) Depending on when you went, it might just be easier to contact through them, rather than try to flip back through pages of the group posts.

Due to certain issues that have been related to both NE and ACAL, some presenters won't return there. However, FF can tell you any presenter that has been at either if you send him and email.


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RE: Mousse for fire play - 10/5/2017 11:20:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, I could get hold of the folks at ACAL, I have hosted several of the presenters at my house in Anchorage, then track them down and email them and then hope to get a response back on what brand of mousse they use, or, I could write a simple one line question on Collarspace and ask for other people's brand recommendation. I did not expect this to be a personal attack on my person. Excuse be I was simply asking for suggestions on a single item, not questions about what lube you use or your experiences in Delta Junction.

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RE: Mousse for fire play - 10/6/2017 7:22:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		You have to realize that people are hesitant to give online advice about an activity that could be dangerous. Let's face it. Online people often exaggerate or lie about their experience. Thus, you have been asked to get that information from the people who originally gave the presentation.

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RE: Mousse for fire play - 10/6/2017 10:08:42 AM   
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Which brand of mousse have you found works best for fire play?

For Fire Play, I would not recommend mousse. Reason being is the manufacturer can change ingredients at any time which could result in a chemical that now burns much hotter and cause serious burn and/or injury. A particular brand of mousse may work today but tomorrow it may not. A lot of companies used alcohol to help dissolve the ingredients into smaller particles so they can be deposited on the hair shaft. A small change in formulation can change to mousse from slow burn to rapid high heat flame. And you have no way to know that.

I am not a fire expert but been around a lot of play. Most people I have seen used is 70% Isopropyl Alcohol. I have seen flash cotton also used but I heard that burns hotter than the 70% Isopropyl Alcohol.

I also recommend the book "Flames of Passion" Handbook on Erotic Fire Play by David Walker and Robert Rubel with a forward from Jay Wiseman

https://submissiveguide.com/fundamentals/articles/fire-play-2
https://kinkfo.wordpress.com/fire-play-101/
https://www.amazon.com/Flames-Passion-Handbook-Erotic-Fire/dp/1425934358

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RE: Mousse for fire play - 10/10/2017 2:20:52 PM   
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RE: Mousse for fire play - 11/15/2017 9:43:38 PM   
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