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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 3:13:30 PM   
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I take it you wont answer the question.
Im not stalking you, believe me, you dont know what stalking is.
like most things.




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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 3:15:50 PM   
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What a HORRIFIC crime.

People are not even safe in a mosque, and they are Muslims.
The people who committed this crime, are not human beings.
Surely, no one can condone THIS.

CNN- Mosque Masacre

These are crimes against humanity.
May the innocent victims, RIP.


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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 3:37:32 PM   
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hey lucy---maybe its because the occasional random mass shooter, although still horrific, doesn't present the same kind of existential threat as does an historical and global movement that overwhelmingly produces most of the killers?

see my earlier points concerning the left and you and an inability to make distinctions. keep up the good work!


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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 3:44:12 PM   
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I dont disagree, fundamentalism is dangerous.
Islamic fanaticism is extraordinarily dangerous.
Any fanaticism is dangerous.
But thats not why he ignored that thread.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 3:56:57 PM   
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Europe in the Age of Religious Wars, 1560-1715

Wars between different sects of religions have been going on since Christ, if not before, even among Christians.

However, if they want to shoot each other, let them.

I said the same thing about Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland.

If people want to kill each other in name of religion, hey as long as I aint caught in the crossfire, no skin off my back.

Besides, lets fact it, humans really dont have to try hard to find some stupid fucked up reason to kill each other, hell we have turned justification into an art form.


Hilarious how Muslim apologists really believe that comparing Muslims to medieval Europeans, paints Muslims in a favorable light

Where is their reformation, their enlightenment. Where is their renaissance



Did you catch the part about 'if they want to kill each other, let them."

And I really think you need to research 'the troubles' before you delegate wars between Christians to the middle ages.

And who the hell is apologizing for them?

As I have said repeatedly, the human species has taken justification for war, and in general, killing large numbers of people to an art form.

Humans have used religion, political theories, race, greed, and god knows what other of a number of excuses to kill each other.

Face it Bosco, humans as a species just love to kill each other, and we paint it with words like honor, glory etc.

Boils down to one thing, blood lust.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 4:13:43 PM   
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Which Muslims need to know this, Bosco? The killers involved in this incident, or the ones who got killed? The former are too far gone to care about anyone's opinion at all and the latter won't be interested on account of they're now dead.

Look, frankly, nobody on this forum is interested in your perennially nasty, stupid, Islamophobic diarrhoea - why would any Muslim, anywhere, be interested in it either?

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 4:59:19 PM   
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It strikes me that many of the people who commit such atrocities, are progeny of generations of circumcized males. We may therefore pose the hypothesis that the chance that someone commits such an atrocity is somehow related - proportional? - to the number of generations of circumcized male ancestors that he or she had.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 4:59:51 PM   
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Somehow, Muslims need to learn that the Koran does not represent the truth


Which Muslims need to know this, Bosco? The killers involved in this incident, or the ones who got killed? The former are too far gone to care about anyone's opinion at all and the latter won't be interested on account of they're now dead.



With literally hundreds of millions slaughtered in Allah's name to date, to any thinking person it's not even a question. The cult has to be broken up. They need to be brought into this current century

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Look, frankly, nobody on this forum is interested in your perennially nasty, stupid, Islamophobic diarrhoea - why would any Muslim, anywhere, be interested in it either?


To the contrary, you mindless little howlers fairly obsess over me.

According to your vacuous little troll minds every thread I post in has to be about me personally

Even this one

Hagitha took her shot at making the thread about me, now little piss boy is having a go

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 5:11:38 PM   
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How is trumps solution going to make a difference? with the wall and a muslim ban(which is unconstitutional)
What does he think it will stop?
As there is no realistic solution, will trump manage to do any better than anyone else?



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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 5:13:37 PM   
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May I take this opportunity to observe that you are a cretin, Bosco?

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 5:40:40 PM   
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Somehow, Muslims need to learn that the Koran does not represent the truth


Which Muslims need to know this, Bosco? The killers involved in this incident, or the ones who got killed? The former are too far gone to care about anyone's opinion at all and the latter won't be interested on account of they're now dead.



With literally hundreds of millions slaughtered in Allah's name to date, to any thinking person it's not even a question. The cult has to be broken up. They need to be brought into this current century

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Look, frankly, nobody on this forum is interested in your perennially nasty, stupid, Islamophobic diarrhoea - why would any Muslim, anywhere, be interested in it either?


To the contrary, you mindless little howlers fairly obsess over me.

According to your vacuous little troll minds every thread I post in has to be about me personally

Even this one

Hagitha took her shot at making the thread about me, now little piss boy is having a go

you got the cult of christ, you got the cult of mohammed. they been killing each other for centuries, first one then another. combine that with the fact that it took ruthless dictators to get that back under control even with all the interference that the US, UK and Russia did in the middle east, and then it takes a howling deranged bunch of little rightists to determine they should bring their little brand of enlightenment to the region, and let their equivalent in the middle east loose upon society.

Well done you rightist chaps. You are more men than the Tory Prime Minister who plonked his John Thomas in his porcine sweethearts obicularis oris, but not far behind, obvs. Given your various and sundry propensities as have been demonstrated pervasively.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 5:43:17 PM   
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How is trumps solution going to make a difference? with the wall and a muslim ban(which is unconstitutional)
What does he think it will stop?
As there is no realistic solution, will trump manage to do any better than anyone else?




Trump's solution - stop importing death cult members to every extent possible

Leftist trash solution - bring in as many as possible as fast as possible so your Hillary types can use them for their votes and in turn pad their personal bank accounts with graft money

A no-brainer, that


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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 6:34:45 PM   
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How is trumps solution going to make a difference? with the wall and a muslim ban(which is unconstitutional)
What does he think it will stop?
As there is no realistic solution, will trump manage to do any better than anyone else?




Trump's solution - stop importing death cult members to every extent possible

Leftist trash solution - bring in as many as possible as fast as possible so your Hillary types can use them for their votes and in turn pad their personal bank accounts with graft money

A no-brainer, that


with an unconstitutional ban how is he going to get around that?
Until your strawman from your "leftist trash etc etc " on bit, it was quite intelligent.


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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/25/2017 8:11:56 PM   
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How is trumps solution going to make a difference? with the wall and a muslim ban(which is unconstitutional)
What does he think it will stop?
As there is no realistic solution, will trump manage to do any better than anyone else?




Trump's solution - stop importing death cult members to every extent possible

Leftist trash solution - bring in as many as possible as fast as possible so your Hillary types can use them for their votes and in turn pad their personal bank accounts with graft money

A no-brainer, that


Not much of a solution, when the serial killers are mostly howling demented rightists, but he has got the nobody gives a fuck non numbers like W did, but is not taking care of the problem, but a no brainer that, since rightists have no fucking brains.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/26/2017 7:41:23 PM   
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You always insist that their book tells them to attack everybody else rather than other moslems, though.
Not for the first time, I'm forced to correct your ignorance.

Their book tells them to kill people who don't believe as they do. However the central disagreement between Shiites and Sunni Muslims - over which they've been killing each other for more than a thousand years - is which set of accompanying apocrypha is the real one.

So. To correct yet another idiot who clearly has no fucking idea what he's talking about - the Quran tells Muslims to kill unbelievers. The hadith tell Muslims to kill Jews and enjoy it. Islamic culture says that the hadith are worth killing over. Thus, Muslims kill each other over the hadith and they engage in violent imperialism because that's the central message of Islam.

This is why people like yourself and Peon are ignorant fucking morons. Your ignorance is total, inexcusable and disqualifies you from attempting to blather on about a subject which you truly do not understand in the slightest.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/26/2017 7:54:43 PM   
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Muslims will kill Muslims who they consider Haraam. Which means do not follow the correct Jihadist murdering version of Islam. Because the Quran teaches them to do that.

That people who refuses to participate in Jihad will burn in fire in hell. Exact words of their own God written in their own Quran.

So Bosco is 100% right in his OP.

There are many modern Muslims who still tries to argue that Jihad doesn't mean physical violent war. But they are the ones who will be in danger from the Muslims who goes by literal example of Muhammad going on Jihad with violent literal war.

That's what Muhammad did, that's how he fought Jihad. And he was the living role model true Muslims are supposingly to follow.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 2:53:54 AM   
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You always insist that their book tells them to attack everybody else rather than other moslems, though.
Not for the first time, I'm forced to correct your ignorance.

Their book tells them to kill people who don't believe as they do. However the central disagreement between Shiites and Sunni Muslims - over which they've been killing each other for more than a thousand years - is which set of accompanying apocrypha is the real one.

So. To correct yet another idiot who clearly has no fucking idea what he's talking about - the Quran tells Muslims to kill unbelievers. The hadith tell Muslims to kill Jews and enjoy it. Islamic culture says that the hadith are worth killing over. Thus, Muslims kill each other over the hadith and they engage in violent imperialism because that's the central message of Islam.

This is why people like yourself and Peon are ignorant fucking morons. Your ignorance is total, inexcusable and disqualifies you from attempting to blather on about a subject which you truly do not understand in the slightest.


A, please. How many times have I warned you about actually learning something on a subject before posting on it? You either cannot, or will not, see that your view is based in religious determinism. Thus, for you and your fellow looneybin-righties, everything about what all Muslims are, and do, can be determined by what's in their religious texts. Do you really have no inkling as to why that might just the teensiest bit fallacious?

"Predominantly, Muslim countries average 2.4 murders per annum per 100,000 people, compared to 7.5 in non-Muslim countries. The percentage of the society that is made up of Muslims is an extraordinarily good predictor of a country's murder rate. More authoritarianism in Muslim countries does not account for the difference. I have found that controlling for political regime in statistical analysis does not change the findings. More Muslims, less homicide."

https://www.vox.com/2015/1/30/7951309/islam-violence

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 2:57:38 AM   
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"Predominantly, Muslim countries average 2.4 murders per annum per 100,000 people, compared to 7.5 in non-Muslim countries. The percentage of the society that is made up of Muslims is an extraordinarily good predictor of a country's murder rate. More authoritarianism in Muslim countries does not account for the difference. I have found that controlling for political regime in statistical analysis does not change the findings. More Muslims, less homicide."

https://www.vox.com/2015/1/30/7951309/islam-violence


Yes! Vox! That glorious purveyor of truth!

That to the side, maybe you might want to try "Terrorist Attacks" as opposed to "Murders"? I know, in this country, they aren't counted the same way.





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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 3:06:26 AM   
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"Predominantly, Muslim countries average 2.4 murders per annum per 100,000 people, compared to 7.5 in non-Muslim countries. The percentage of the society that is made up of Muslims is an extraordinarily good predictor of a country's murder rate. More authoritarianism in Muslim countries does not account for the difference. I have found that controlling for political regime in statistical analysis does not change the findings. More Muslims, less homicide."

https://www.vox.com/2015/1/30/7951309/islam-violence


Yes! Vox! That glorious purveyor of truth!

That to the side, maybe you might want to try "Terrorist Attacks" as opposed to "Murders"? I know, in this country, they aren't counted the same way.






True, yes, Vox. You got me there. Though - reporting the findings of UC-Berkeley Professor of Political Science M. Steven Fish. And why would I want to count 'terrorist attacks' rather than murders? Frankly, the important thing for me is not to get murderered. I won't be interested in why someone's murdered me after I'm dead.

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RE: The Wrong Kind Of Muslims - 11/27/2017 3:13:59 AM   
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True, yes, Vox. You got me there. Though - reporting the findings of UC-Berkeley Professor of Political Science M. Steven Fish. And why would I want to count 'terrorist attacks' rather than murders? Frankly, the important thing for me is not to get murderered. I won't be interested in why someone's murdered me after I'm dead.


Yet, I seem to remember you, being in support of "hate crimes" legislation?

Well, you might not care, but some of us care about Islamic Extremism and how it relates to those dead bodies that are piling up.

Maybe this will help: You know, sometimes they do still use guns to execute their terrorist attacks, just look at the attack, over the weekend. Guns are still bad, right?





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