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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 5:21:53 AM   
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Since the day he announced, "this is the end of Trump"

Today is just another day, exactly like every other. Some fool has theories he thinks are real with no basis in fact and no evidence other than the same constant "unnamed sources" propaganda drivel we have been hearing from day one that never pans out

It's supposed to be a crime for a president-elect to meet with foreign leaders, but Obama did that in 2008 as a mere candidate, and he is also doing that right now as we speak as a former president

Another of those millions of things that are only bad if it was a Republican who might have done it


It is NOT a crime for a president-elect to meet with foreign leaders.

IT IS a crime to make a quid-pro-quo deal involving US Foreign Policy as president-elect. (e.g. "Help me win the election by hacking into the DNC's email server, and I will drop the sanctions on Russia vis-a-vis Ukraine."). In fact, since sanctions on Russia were part of U.S foreign policy, that quid pro quo deal is treason.

I think we will see precise evidence of that quid pro quo deal.


And since hack Mueller can find absolutely no evidence to back up that kind of insane wild-eyed howling he is going after old bank records from years prior to the election, desperately searching for any kind of dirt on the president or his family, or his businesses or his associates

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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 6:00:58 AM   
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...that quid pro quo deal is treason.

I think we will see precise evidence of that quid pro quo deal.



And since hack Mueller can find absolutely no evidence to back up that kind of insane wild-eyed howling he is going after old bank records from years prior to the election, desperately searching for any kind of dirt on the president or his family, or his businesses or his associates


absolutely mindboggling.

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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 6:02:45 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

...that quid pro quo deal is treason.

I think we will see precise evidence of that quid pro quo deal.



And since hack Mueller can find absolutely no evidence to back up that kind of insane wild-eyed howling he is going after old bank records from years prior to the election, desperately searching for any kind of dirt on the president or his family, or his businesses or his associates


absolutely mindboggling.



And they can't even see it

They literally live in cartoonish fantasies, mostly spun by propaganda rags whose editors are the same way



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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 6:13:33 AM   
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pat Buchanan recently wrote a piece, wondering about why Flynn lied, and he didn't come to a conclusion, but some of the rest is good reading:

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As national security adviser to the president-elect, Flynn had called the ambassador. Message: Tell President Putin not to overreact to President Obama's expulsion of 35 Russian diplomats. Trump will be president in three weeks, and we are committed to a new relationship.

Not only was this initiative defensible, it proved successful.

Putin accepted the loss of his diplomats and country houses on Long lsland and the Eastern Shore. Rather than expel U.S. diplomats in retaliation, he invited them and their families to the Kremlin's New Year's parties.

"Great move...(by V. Putin)," tweeted Trump, "I always knew he was very smart." This columnist concurred:

"Among our Russophobes, one can hear the gnashing of teeth.

"Clearly, Putin believes the Trump presidency offers Russia the prospect of a better relationship with the United States. He appears to want this, and most Americans seem to want the same. After all, Hillary Clinton, who accused Trump of being 'Putin's puppet,' lost."

Flynn, it now appears, was not freelancing, but following instructions. His deputy, K. T. McFarland, sent an email to six Trump advisers saying that Obama, by expelling the Russians, was trying to "box Trump in diplomatically."

"If there is a tit-for-tat escalation," warned McFarland, "Trump will have difficulty improving relations with Russia." Exactly.

Flynn was trying to prevent Russian retaliation. Yet, as the ex-director of the Defense Intelligence Agency, he had to know his call to Kislyak was being monitored and recorded.

So, again, why would he lie to the FBI about a conversation, the contents of which were surely known to the people who sent the FBI to question him?

The other charge of lying about a call with Kislyak was Flynn's request for Russian help in getting postponed or canceled a Security Council vote on a resolution denouncing Israeli settlements on the West Bank.

Obama's White House was backing the anti-Israel resolution. And Bibi Netanyahu had asked Trump to weigh in to block the vote.

Bottom line: Flynn, acting on instructions, tried to prevent a U.N. condemnation of Israel, and to dissuade Russia from a mass expulsion of U.S. diplomats, lest this poison the well against a rapprochement for which the American people had voted.

In the court of public opinion, Flynn's actions would find broad support. Rather than deny knowledge of them, Trump should have taken credit for them.

Why the general would lie to the FBI about conversations he had to know U.S. intelligence had recorded is a puzzling question, but now also an irrelevant one, water over the dam.

For Trump's general is now the newly conscripted collaborator of the media-Mueller-Democrat-deep state conspiracy to overturn the election of 2016 and bring down the Trump presidency.

Remarkable.

After 18 months, we have no evidence Trump colluded with Russia in hacking the emails of the DNC or John Podesta, which is what the FBI investigation was supposedly about.

There is no conclusive evidence Flynn committed a crime when, as national security adviser-designate, he tried to prevent Obama from sabotaging the policies Trump had run on -- and won on.


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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 6:55:35 AM   
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The president said much the same thing, Flynn had no reason to lie

And the shock and horror - a president willing to work as an ally with other nations to address the ISIS threat (as well as other issues)

What could possibly be worse than that

(Is this a joke btw, Mueller's star witness, was convicted of lying to investigators)

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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 12:08:57 PM   
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After 18 months, we have no evidence Trump colluded with Russia in hacking the emails of the DNC or John Podesta, which is what the FBI investigation was supposedly about.
(no, it never was about that, factless slobber.)


There is no conclusive evidence Flynn committed a crime when, as national security adviser-designate, he tried to prevent Obama from sabotaging the policies Trump had run on -- and won on.

There is none, known at least at this point, but what is known and what is a crime, is that he lied to the FBI.

Sorry deranged howling derail from twathowler by an extremely senile Pat Buchanan isnt the magic pants de-shitting you are looking for.

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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 2:17:56 PM   
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s'matter mnottertroll, forget how to use the quote function?


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After 18 months, we have no evidence Trump colluded with Russia in hacking the emails of the DNC or John Podesta, which is what the FBI investigation was supposedly about.
(no, it never was about that, factless slobber.)


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Since July 2016, the FBI has been investigating the Russian government’s attempt to influence the 2016 presidential election, including whether President Donald Trump’s campaign associates were involved in those efforts.

“Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election” between Trump and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, according to the U.S. intelligence community. Russian intelligence services gained access to the computer network of Democratic Party officials and released the hacked material to WikiLeaks and others “to help President-elect Trump’s election chances,” the IC said in a report released earlier this year.


http://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/timeline-russia-investigation/

fool...but keep it up, I suppose some people are getting a good laugh at your expense.

and seriously---after so many months of your fixation on "putinjizz?"

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There is no conclusive evidence Flynn committed a crime when, as national security adviser-designate, he tried to prevent Obama from sabotaging the policies Trump had run on -- and won on.

There is none, known at least at this point, but what is known and what is a crime, is that he lied to the FBI.

Sorry deranged howling derail from twathowler by an extremely senile Pat Buchanan isnt the magic pants de-shitting you are looking for.


theres nothing you just said there that Buchanan didn't say or admit to--yes Flynn lied to the fbi and Buchanan is as puzzled by it as anyone, and the article isnt an attempt to be a "magic pants de-shitting."

no matter the screen name, still getting it wrong.



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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 3:00:47 PM   
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Nope dogshit44 dont need the quote function. Everybody knows who recites twatholler.

we have no evidence Trump colluded with Russia in hacking the emails of the DNC or John Podesta, which is what the FBI investigation was supposedly about <<<<<<<<<<< from twatholler

Since July 2016, the FBI has been investigating the Russian government’s attempt to influence the 2016 presidential election,including whether President Donald Trump’s campaign associates were involved in those efforts. <<<<<<<<<<<< from another link you post as evidence of your slobbers veracity.

One of these things is not like the other, DOUCY, Douche? You are a goddamn idiot.

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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 3:04:24 PM   
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sorry mnottertroll---its not about knowing who quoted townhall, its about rightly attributing words to who said them, and also making it so people can follow the conversation.

different name, still getting it wrong.

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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 3:08:17 PM   
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nope dogshit44, you aint changed your name, you are still and always will get it wrong.

You are a fucking fool.

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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 3:15:30 PM   
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oh, and good selective editing on the quotes...

the quotes are more or less referencing the same thing moron.

lets try this again:

"we have no evidence Trump colluded with Russia in hacking the emails of the DNC"

(and youre saying, "no that's not what the investigations about, factless slobbering that is!")

"gained access to the computer network of Democratic Party officials and released the hacked material (meaning the emails above fool)...including whether President Donald Trump’s campaign associates were involved in those efforts"

(and the factcheck fellows are saying indeed that's a part of it)

soooooooooooooooo....im not sure, youre so stupid maybe youre Thompson? your weird use of "<<<<<<<<<<<" seems like him and your inability to quote correctly seems like him too.

although, the way you just unoriginally parroted back an insult is definitely mnottertrollish. and "goddamn" appears to be a mnottertroll standby...

anyone else want in on this shooting fish in barrel?


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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 3:49:14 PM   
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The DNC hacks had been steady since 2015. I don't believe the Trump campaign had any part in them. But Trump himself did not hesitate to use any of the information provided from what was leaked because of those hacks. He certainly didn't wait to verify any of the information; and some of it had been falsified.

It is still possible that Trump's campaign was given information from those hacks by Russian operatives.

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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 4:06:21 PM   
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so you are arguing over semantics at your pitiful townhall. And you wonder why no one takes it seriously but you

The trump team is part of the investigation, no matter what you say, it has NEVER been "just about " Trump" collusion"
its about potential collusion between Donald Trump's presidential campaign and Russia
Nothing more nothing less. It is what it is.
Trumps presidential campaign has met, and conspired with russians
Manafort, and Gates, different to the campaign
Pappad, donjr, jared, flynn, all have evidence against them with russians.
All part of trumps presidential campaign. and not just bit playing parts.



Im wondering why, with all the information coming out you arent declaring trump is as guilty, after all you claim hillary is responsible for what her team did.


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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 4:08:09 PM   
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Im wondering why, with all the information coming out you arent declaring trump is as guilty, after all you claim hillary is responsible for what her team did.


Because it's a Republican (in name only)



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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 4:26:40 PM   
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Since July 2016, the FBI has been investigating the Russian government’s attempt to influence the 2016 presidential election, including whether President Donald Trump’s campaign associates were involved in those efforts.

“Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered an influence campaign in 2016 aimed at the US presidential election” between Trump and Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, according to the U.S. intelligence community. Russian intelligence services gained access to the computer network of Democratic Party officials and released the hacked material to WikiLeaks and others “to help President-elect Trump’s election chances,” the IC said in a report released earlier this year.


http://www.factcheck.org/2017/06/timeline-russia-investigation/




how deceptive you are.

Now the date of the original pieces is from June, and was updated on the 1st of december so it isnt "current"

But this amount of information has been updated since june...

You missed out the following parts, did you read the entire timeline? apparently not...

It makes for interesting reading....

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At this point, no evidence of collusion between the Russians and the Trump campaign has been made public. It may or may not exist. However, there is an ongoing investigation.
Here we present a timeline of key events in the investigation. We will update this timeline as necessary. For those reading this on a website other than FactCheck.org, please click here for updates.




June 18: Trump’s lawyer Jay Sekulow says on CBS’ “Face the Nation” that the president is not under investigation. “The fact of the matter is the president has not been and is not under investigation,” Sekulow says. “So this was his response, via twitter, via social media was in response to the Washington Post piece with five anonymous sources.”

June 22 – In a pair of tweets, Trump announces that he did not tape his conversations with the former FBI director. “With all of the recently reported electronic surveillance, intercepts, unmasking and illegal leaking of information, I have no idea…,” Trump tweeted. “…whether there are ‘tapes’ or recordings of my conversations with James Comey, but I did not make, and do not have, any such recordings.”

Trump meets Putin at G-20 summit on July 7, 2017.

July 7 –
Trump talks twice with Putin at G-20 summit. The first is a regularly scheduled meeting that lasted more than two hours. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson attends that meeting and discusses it with the media after it ends. The second conversation occurs at a dinner for G-20 leaders and their spouses. The White House would not disclose or confirm that second conversation until July 18. Ian Bremmer, president and founder of the Eurasia Group, revealed the previously undisclosed conversation in a newsletter to clients of his New York-based risk management company. Bremmer said Trump went to Putin’s table at some point during the dinner and the two men spoke for “roughly an hour.” White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer confirmed that Trump initiated the conversation, but he said it was brief and nothing more than “pleasantries and small talk” were exchanged. There is no record of the conversation, which was facilitated only by a Russian interpreter.

July 8 – The New York Times breaks the story of Donald Trump Jr. arranging a June 9, 2016, meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower. In a statement to the Times, Donald Trump Jr. says it was a “short introductory meeting” and, “We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up.” But the following day, Donald Trump Jr. says, “the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Mrs. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.”
The Times writes: “He said [Veselnitskaya] then turned the conversation to adoption of Russian children and the Magnitsky Act, an American law that blacklists suspected Russian human rights abusers. The 2012 law so enraged President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia that he halted American adoptions of Russian children.” Donald Trump Jr. said: “It became clear to me that this was the true agenda all along and that the claims of potentially helpful information were a pretext for the meeting.”

July 11 – Before the Times publishes a story detailing the email chain between Donald Trump Jr. and music publicist Rob Goldstone about the June 2016 meeting with Veselnitskaya, Donald Trump Jr. tweets images of the emails. He says Veselnitskaya “was not a government official” and that “[t]he information they suggested they had about Hillary Clinton I thought was Political Opposition Research.”

July 19 – The Senate judiciary committee asks Donald Trump Jr. to turn over all documents “relating to any attempts or actions taken by the Trump Organization or Trump campaign to coordinate, encourage, gain, release, or otherwise use information related to Russia’s influence campaign aimed at the US 2016 presidential election.” The committee’s letter, in particular, asks for any documents related to the June 2016, meeting with Veselnitskaya, as well as all communications he had with a long list of specific Trump campaign officials and Russian individuals and businesses.

July 24: Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law and senior White House adviser, meets for two hours with Senate intelligence committee investigators. “I did not collude, nor know of anyone else in the campaign who colluded, with any foreign government,” Kushner says in a statement that he provided to congressional investigators.
In his statement, Kushner says he can recall two meetings with Russian government representatives during the campaign and two meetings during the transition. The statement says he spoke briefly to Kislyak, the Russian ambassador, at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington, D.C., in April 2016 prior to a speech by Trump on foreign affairs, and that he met with Kislyak for 20 or 30 minutes at Trump Tower on Dec. 1, 2016. He also says he met banker Sergey Gorkov in New York on Dec. 13, 2016, for 20 to 25 minutes, and he attended a meeting arranged by Donald Trump Jr. with Russian attorney Natalia Veselnitskaya at Trump Tower on June 9.
July 26 – The FBI raids the Alexandria, Virginia, home of Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman. (Jason Maloni, Manafort’s spokesman, would later confirm the raid after the Washington Post broke the story on Aug. 9. “Mr. Manafort has consistently cooperated with law enforcement and other serious inquiries and did so on this occasion as well,” Maloni said.)


July 27
— Papadopoulos, a Trump foreign policy adviser during the campaign, is arrested at Dulles International Airport on charges that he lied to FBI agents. Following his arrest, Papadopoulos met with government investigators “on numerous occasions to provide information and answer questions,” according to a court document.

Aug. 1 – White House Press Secretary Sarah Sanders confirms that the president was involved in drafting the statement that Donald Trump Jr. issued on July 8 about the meeting that he and other Trump campaign officials had with Russian representatives on June 9, 2016. That statement was misleading. It failed to mention that Donald Trump Jr. agreed to the meeting after being promised “some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary” as “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump,” according to emails that Donald Trump Jr. released on July 11.
Sanders says: “The president weighed in, as any father would, based on the limited information that he had. He certainly didn’t dictate, but like I said, he weighed in, offered suggestions like any father would do.” This contradicts an earlier statement by Jay Sekulow, one of the president’s attorneys, who said on “Good Morning America” on July 12 that “the president wasn’t involved.”

Aug. 28, 2017 – ABC News and the Washington Post report that Michael Cohen, the former chief counsel for the Trump Organization, provided congressional investigators with a statement that says Trump signed a “letter of intent” during the 2016 campaign to pursue “a proposal for ‘Trump Tower Moscow.’” Cohen, who now serves as one of the president’s personal attorneys, told Congress that Trump signed the letter of intent with a Moscow-based developer, I.C. Expert Investment Co., on Oct. 28, 2015, according to the Post. Cohen also told Congress that in January 2016 he emailed Dmitry Peskov, the press secretary for Russian President Vladimir Putin, in an attempt to gain the approvals necessary for the project. “Those permissions were never provided,” Cohen writes. “I decided to abandon the proposal less than two weeks later for business reasons and do not recall any response to my email, nor any other contacts by me with Mr. Peskov or other Russian government officials about the proposal.”
In a separate statement to ABC News, Cohen says that “the Trump Moscow proposal was simply one of many development opportunities that the Trump Organization considered and ultimately rejected.”

Sept. 6 — Facebook announces that it has identified roughly 3,000 politically related ad buys connected to 470 fake accounts linked to Russia. In a blog post, Alex Stamos, the company’s chief security officer, writes: “In reviewing the ads [sic] buys, we have found approximately $100,000 in ad spending from June of 2015 to May of 2017 — associated with roughly 3,000 ads — that was connected to about 470 inauthentic accounts and Pages in violation of our policies. Our analysis suggests these accounts and Pages were affiliated with one another and likely operated out of Russia.” The company says it also alerted U.S. authorities that it found an additional “$50,000 in potentially politically related ad spending on roughly 2,200 ads” that may be linked to Russia. Those ads were “bought from accounts with US IP addresses but with the language set to Russian” and “didn’t necessarily violate” Facebook policies.
Stamos says the ads “appeared to focus on amplifying divisive social and political messages,” including on race, immigration, gun rights and LGBT issues.

Donald Trump Jr.

Sept 7 – Donald Trump Jr. spends five hours behind closed doors answering the questions of Senate judiciary committee investigators. In his prepared remarks, Trump says, “I did not collude with any foreign government and do not know anyone who did.” He also discusses his June 9, 2016, meeting with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya and five or six others at Trump Tower in New York. Trump’s oldest son says he was “skeptical” but nonetheless intrigued by an email he received from a Russian acquaintance who claimed that the Russian government had “official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary [Clinton] and her dealings with Russia.” Trump says, “To the extent they had information concerning the fitness, character or qualifications of a presidential candidate, I believed that I should at least hear them out.” He says the meeting lasted 20 to 30 minutes and produced no information about Clinton. “I have no recollection of any documents being offered or left for us,” he says.

Sept. 19 — CNN reports that federal investigators “wiretapped former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort under secret court orders before and after the election,” citing unnamed sources. According to CNN, the FBI obtained two warrants to conduct surveillance of Manafort from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as the FISA court. CNN says the first warrant was issued in 2014 and expired before Manafort joined the Trump campaign. CNN does not say if the second warrant was issued when Manafort was still part of the Trump campaign. “It is unclear when the new warrant started,” CNN writes.

Sept. 22 — Trump tweets, “The Russia hoax continues, now it’s ads on Facebook. What about the totally biased and dishonest Media coverage in favor of Crooked Hillary?”

Sept. 26 – Stone testifies for three hours in a closed session of the House intelligence committee. In written testimony to the committee, Stone denies any collusion with the Russians. “To be clear, I have never represented any Russian clients, have never been to Russia, and never had any communication with any Russians or individuals fronting for Russians, in connection with the 2016 presidential election,” he says.
After the hearing, Stone tells reporters that Manafort expects to be indicted. Stone was once a partner in a political consulting firm with Manafort. “I believe his attorneys informed my attorneys of that,” Stone says. “They didn’t seem to know when nor what the charge may be.”

Oct. 2 – Facebook gives the Senate and House intelligence committees more than 3,000 ads linked to Russia that it says appeared on the social media site during the 2016 campaign. In a blog post, Elliot Schrage, vice president of policy and communications at the company, says the ads reached an estimated 10 million people in the United States.


Oct. 4
— The Republican chairman and the ranking Democrat on the Senate intelligence committee hold a joint press conference to provide an update on the Russia investigation. “The issue of collusion is still open,” says Sen. Richard Burr, the committee chairman, referring to possible collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. The North Carolina Republican says the committee has interviewed more than 100 people and has 25 additional interviews scheduled for October. He says the committee hopes to complete its work before the 2018 midterm elections next November.

Oct. 5 — Papadopoulos, a Trump foreign policy adviser, pleads guilty to lying to FBI agents. His guilty plea is not made public until Oct. 30
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Oct. 13 — Federal investigators interview Reince Priebus, the president’s former chief of staff. “Mr. Priebus was voluntarily interviewed by Special Counsel Mueller’s team today. He was happy to answer all of their questions,” his attorney William Burck said in a statement.

Oct. 18 — At a hearing of the Senate judiciary committee, Sen. Lindsey Graham asks Sessions, “Did you ever overhear a conversation between you and anybody on the [Trump] campaign who talked about meeting with the Russians?” The attorney general indicates that he did not. “I have not seen anything that would indicate a collusion with Russians to impact the campaign,” Sessions tells the committee. (It was later disclosed that Russia was discussed at a March 31, 2016 meeting chaired by Sessions of the campaign’s National Security Advisory Committee. At that meeting, Papadopoulos said he had contacts in Russia and could help arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin. Sessions would later say that he “pushed back” at the idea of such a meeting.)

Oct. 24 – NBC News reports that the Podesta Group and the group’s co-founder, Tony Podesta, brother of Clinton’s campaign chairman John Podesta, are “subjects” of the special prosecutor’s investigation. John Podesta is not affiliated with the firm.
Citing unnamed sources, NBC News says federal investigators are interested in the Podesta Group’s work from 2012 to 2014 for a public relations campaign organized by Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, for a nonprofit called the European Centre for a Modern Ukraine. The nonprofit reportedly was backed by the “pro-Russian and oligarch-funded Ukrainian political party” that was in control of Ukraine at the time, according to NBC News.
A spokesman for the Podesta Group tells NBC News in a statement that the firm “is cooperating fully with the Special Counsel’s office and has taken every possible step to provide documentation that confirms timely compliance.”

Oct. 30 — Manafort, Trump’s former campaign manager, and Rick Gates, Manafort’s former business associate and a Trump campaign aide, are indicted on money laundering and tax evasion charges related to their work for a pro-Russia political party in Ukraine.
Between 2006 and 2015, Manafort controlled firms that did “political consulting, lobbying, and public relations” for the government of Ukraine, the Party of Regions and its presidential candidate, Viktor Yanukovych, and then later for the Opposition Bloc, a successor to the Party of Regions, according to the indictment. Yanukovych, a close ally of Putin, was elected president of Ukraine in 2010, but fled the country in 2014 after a popular uprising. The Opposition Bloc formed after Yanukovych fled Ukraine.
Manafort allegedly laundered “more than $18 million” that he used to buy property, goods and services in the United States without paying federal taxes. “Gates transferred more than $3 million from the offshore accounts to other accounts he controlled,” the indictment says.
“The indictment contains 12 counts: conspiracy against the United States, conspiracy to launder money, unregistered agent of a foreign principal, false and misleading [Foreign Agents Registration Act] statements, false statements, and seven counts of failure to file reports of foreign bank and financial accounts,” a Department of Justice press release says.
Gates joined the Trump campaign at around the same time that Manafort became the campaign’s convention manager in late March 2016. He served as Manafort’s deputy and remained with the campaign after Manafort left in August 2016.
Separately, the Department of Justice announces that George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy adviser for the Trump campaign, pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with a professor who Papadopoulos “understood to have substantial connections to Russian government officials.”
Papadopoulos, who became a campaign adviser in March 2016, learned from the professor in April 2016 that Russia possessed “dirt” on Hillary Clinton “in the form of ‘thousands of emails,’” according to a statement from the Justice Department stipulating the facts of the case against Papadopoulos. However, Papadopoulos falsely told the FBI “multiple times that he learned that information” about Clinton prior to joining the Trump campaign, according to the statement.
According to the statement, the professor also introduced Papadopoulos to two others: a “Female Russian National,” who Papadopoulos believed had “connections to senior Russian government officials,” and “an individual in Moscow … who told defendant Papadopoulos he had connections to the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.”
Papadopoulos lied to the FBI about his contacts with the “Female Russian National,” and failed initially to disclose his contacts with the “Russian MFA Connection,” the statement says.

Nov. 2 — Carter Page, a foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, testifies before the House intelligence committee at a closed-door hearing. According to a transcript of his testimony, Page tells the committee that he briefly exchanged “some nice pleasantries” with Russian Deputy Prime Minister Arkady Dvorkovich during his July 8, 2016, trip to Moscow, where both men spoke at the commencement ceremony of the New Economic School.
Page also confirms for the committee that he wrote an email to campaign policy aides J.D. Gordon and Tera Dahl that said: “On a related front, I’ll send you guys a readout soon regarding some incredible insights and outreach I’ve received from a few Russian legislators and senior members of the Presidential administration here.” But, under questioning, he says that he gained those “incredible insights” from listening to Dvorkovich’s speech and reading the Moscow newspapers — not from meetings with Russian government officials.

Nov. 13 — The Atlantic reports that Donald Trump Jr. exchanged private Twitter messages with WikiLeaks during the 2016 presidential campaign. Trump Jr. confirms his contacts with WikiLeaks and releases what he describes as his “entire chain of messages with @wikileaks,” which span from Sept. 20, 2016 to July 11, 2017. In its Jan. 6, 2017 report, the U.S. intelligence community said Russian intelligence services used WikiLeaks as part of its influence campaign to help elect Trump — an assessment that both Russia and WikiLeaks deny. (See the 2016 entries for Sept. 20, Oct. 3, and Oct. 12 for examples of direct messages exchanged between Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks.)

Nov. 14 — Sessions testifies before the the House judiciary committee and addresses why he failed to inform Congress that Russia was discussed at a March 31, 2016, meeting of the Trump campaign’s national security team. Sessions, who was chairman of the national security committee, says he didn’t recall the meeting until he saw recent news reports about it. Papadopoulos, a member of the national security team who pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI, told the Justice Department that he introduced himself at the March 2016 meeting as someone who had Russian contacts and could help arrange a meeting between Trump and Putin. “I did not recall this event, which occurred 18 months before my testimony of a few weeks ago, and would gladly have reported it had I remembered it, because I pushed back against his suggestion that I thought may have been improper,” Sessions says of Papadopoulos and the March 31, 2016 meeting. The attorney general also said that he did not recall a conversation with Carter Page about Page’s visit to Moscow in July 2016.
Nov. 16 — The Senate judiciary committee asks Kushner to provide “missing documents” related to the Russia probe that it knows exists. “For example, other parties have produced September 2016 email communications to Mr. Kushner conceming WikiLeaks, which Мr. Kushner then forwarded to another campaign official. Such documents should have been produced in response to the third request but were not,” the committee says in a letter to Kushner’s attorney. “Likewise, other parties have produced documents concerning а ‘Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite’ which Mr. Kushner also forwarded. And still others have produced communications with Sergei Millian, copied to Mr. Kushner.” Millian is a Belarusan American businessman and president of the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce who has boasted of his contacts with high-ranking Russian government officials.

Nov. 17 — The New York Times reports that the email with the subject line “Russian backdoor overture and dinner invite” was sent in May 2016 by Rick Clay, “an advocate for conservative Christian causes,” to Rick Dearborn, a Trump campaign aide. In the email, Clay tells Dearborn that Alexander Torshin, deputy governor of Russia’s central bank, proposed a meeting between Trump and Putin. The request reached top Trump officials, but it was rejected by Kushner, the Times reported, citing a letter sent to the Senate judiciary committee by Kushner’s lawyer. (Torshin, however, did meet that same month with Donald Trump Jr. at an NRA convention in Kentucky. See the May 20, 2016 entry.)

Dec. 1 — Retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, President Trump’s former national security adviser, pleads guilty to making false statements to the FBI. Flynn admits lying to FBI agents about two discussions he had with Sergey Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, in December 2016 when Flynn was still a private citizen and before Trump took office.

In the first instance, Flynn admits he lied to FBI agents about a conversation he had with Kislyak on Dec. 22, 2016 about an upcoming U.N. Security Council resolution. Although he initially denied it to FBI agents, Flynn now admits he asked Russia to delay or defeat a U.N. Security Council resolution, approved Dec. 23, 2016, that would have condemned Israel’s building of settlements in the West bank and east Jerusalem. The Obama administration had agreed to allow the resolution to come up for a vote over the objection of Israel.
Flynn also admits that he lied to FBI agents about a Dec. 29 conversation that he had with Kislyak about the sanctions imposed by the Obama administration that day for interfering in the 2016 U.S. elections. Flynn told Kislyak that Russia should refrain from responding to the U.S. sanctions and Kislyak agreed that Russia would “moderate its response to those sanctions” as a result of his request, according to charges filed by the U.S. special prosecutor’s office. But, when interviewed by the FBI on Jan. 24, Flynn denied making such a request and could not recall if Kislyak agreed to his request.
“My guilty plea and agreement to cooperate with the Special Counsel’s Office reflect a decision I made in the best interests of my family and of our country,” Flynn says in a statement.



NPR has a smaller timeline....https://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/568319589/the-10-events-you-need-to-know-to-understand-the-michael-flynn-story
edited to fix formatting.


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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 4:33:57 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam


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Im wondering why, with all the information coming out you arent declaring trump is as guilty, after all you claim hillary is responsible for what her team did.


Because it's a Republican (in name only)




that is sooo true
that and he cant handle facts

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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 4:34:06 PM   
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sorry comrades, not a matter of "semantics"---its a straight rendering of words.

the issue is your fellow comrade calling what was said "factless slobber" when the factcheck author said essentially the same thing as the TOWNHALL OH NO COMRADES author.

and the reason you all don't take TOWNHALL OH NO COMRADES "seriously" is because youre pathologically incapable of seeing either intelligence and reasoning when someone espouses an opposing view. remember, we're all stupid, greedy, sexist, misogynist, raaaaaaaaaaaaaacist, blah blah blah.

or, as I continue to maintain, because its like holy water to vampires.


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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 4:39:29 PM   
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so you wont respond to facts, or truth.
just keep on whinging about a poster.
you are cherry picking facts again.


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so you wont respond to facts, or truth.
just keep on whinging about a poster.
you are cherry picking facts again.
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yes ..."essentially saying the same thing" is semantics

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RE: Michael Flynn charged in Russia investigation, guil... - 12/6/2017 4:55:52 PM   
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i have zero interest in a conversation with you lucy. you've shown yourself repeatedly to be incapable of decency.

but to help you out:

"the sun rises in the morning"

"the golden orb appears over the horizon at dawn."

they are ESSENTIALLY saying the same thing.

essence: "all that makes a thing what it is"

the townhall article and the fact checker article did not use exact identical language, but they are ESSENTIALLY saying the same thing.

got it now?

I know you like rushing to mnottertrolls defense, but maybe you can pick a better hobby?



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