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Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywood.... - 12/1/2017 3:43:22 PM   
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And, unfortunately the idea really wasnt mine, it came up in a conversation at a local electronics supply store, the owner of which is in the local bdsm community.

Here is the idea for a new cable (probably showtime or HBO) series.

Combine the kink of the Gor novels with the good v evil of star wars (not to mention the psionics,) and the "I am to misbehave" attitude of firefly, with some egotistical shit like the high chancellor from V as the head of the new ultra restrictive church.

Set it in the future of course, but humanity has not set up a centralized government.

Change the Jedi to some warrior monks representing some religious order, sort of like the Knights Templar.

The sith type individuals would be more neutral than evil, with the necessary fuck you attitude, who seem more bent on keeping the church group in check than galaxy conquest (that becomes the goal of the church organization in their attempt to save humanity from sin.)

Through in a group of independent thinkers that really dont like any one telling them what to do....

And of course, kick women's rights back about 1000 years, of course the exception is the women who can maintain their freeborn status.

Now of course, we have to figure out the cast.....

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/2/2017 5:04:09 AM   
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If it has tied up slavegirls in it, Maggie Gyllehaal and Misty Mundae would seem obvious. (most on here probably are only familiar with MM from the softcore stuff, but she's done a lot of microbudgeted horror spoofs as well, and she's generally pretty good in them).
Peter Capaldi plays a cracking evil cleric, and he'll have a few more openings in his filofax after Christmas. (Also, watching him complain about being cast as an "English" villain in interviews would be fun.)
If there's going to be a good cleric ringleader/Yoda type character, Warwick Davies has form for playing benevolent shortarsed space aliens.
From the Firefly talk, you're obviously after a bunch of leads playing a sort of RPG adventuring party (probably with their own spaceship as well), so how about Arthur Darville, David Tennant, James Marsters, Dermot Morgan (playing a mad scientist as a less stupid Calum Gilhooly), Vinnie Jones, and possibly an American or two as well.
(As a quasi feudal but high-tech society run by clashing religious community will likely have a ban on "machines that think like a man" an illegal AI in an android body in order to be passed off as a human being would seem to be obligatory. No idea how to cast that, though.)
As some sort of Amazonian female badass combat monster seems inevitable in these stories, what's Lucy Lawless been doing since Eurotrip?
The most important thing, of course, is not to cast Asia Argento in it at all. It isn't just the actress' father who forgets how important this vital rule is, sadly.
And obviously, any film or television series is better with BRIAN BLESSED.

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/2/2017 6:52:05 AM   
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If it has tied up slavegirls in it, Maggie Gyllehaal and Misty Mundae would seem obvious. (most on here probably are only familiar with MM from the softcore stuff, but she's done a lot of microbudgeted horror spoofs as well, and she's generally pretty good in them).
Peter Capaldi plays a cracking evil cleric, and he'll have a few more openings in his filofax after Christmas. (Also, watching him complain about being cast as an "English" villain in interviews would be fun.)
If there's going to be a good cleric ringleader/Yoda type character, Warwick Davies has form for playing benevolent shortarsed space aliens.
From the Firefly talk, you're obviously after a bunch of leads playing a sort of RPG adventuring party (probably with their own spaceship as well), so how about Arthur Darville, David Tennant, James Marsters, Dermot Morgan (playing a mad scientist as a less stupid Calum Gilhooly), Vinnie Jones, and possibly an American or two as well.
(As a quasi feudal but high-tech society run by clashing religious community will likely have a ban on "machines that think like a man" an illegal AI in an android body in order to be passed off as a human being would seem to be obligatory. No idea how to cast that, though.)
As some sort of Amazonian female badass combat monster seems inevitable in these stories, what's Lucy Lawless been doing since Eurotrip?
The most important thing, of course, is not to cast Asia Argento in it at all. It isn't just the actress' father who forgets how important this vital rule is, sadly.
And obviously, any film or television series is better with BRIAN BLESSED.



I was thinking of a more international cast, but add maybe a few Native Americans (one would have to be a shaman type) and one neo traditional warrior type.

But Peter Capaldi as the church head villian? I would have gone with Jeremy Irons. He did great in showtimes 'the Borgias.'

Rose Leslie would make a great freeborn cut the male slavers dick off and make him eat it type.

But think of this, a fractured human society on various worlds that would have to be within a very narrow set of parameters that humans could adapt to, would mean that you would have humans that were from higher than normal gravity worlds as well as less than normal, each creating their own handicaps.

That is one of my pet peeves with current sci fi movies and tv, all human planets are almost perfect copies of earth.

And then there is another facet to consider, one that the 'church' would have major issues with, genetic manipulation or engineering.

Say, for instance, that at the dawn of interstellar travel, some agency decided after discovering planets in systems that were less than ideal, to manipulate the human genome to create humans specifically adapted for the less than ideal environments?

I mean there was a series that tried to address this, 'Space Above and Beyond,' but did not take it far enough.

And finally, what function would Earth have in this new society? A revered home world? A blighted Eden that had to be partially abandoned? Or the center of some campaign to reunite feuding children under one rule?

Or all of the above?

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/2/2017 8:56:14 AM   
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What's Lou Diamond Phillips doing these days? (I was thinking of Capaldi more as a local Arch Bishop than the church's head, btw. Grand Moff Tarkin rather than the evil Emperor.)

Anything with new homeworlds, I'd have earth as the first environment that the swarm gone interstellar completely destroyed. The pantropy thing is a good point, but I think that what's happened there is that the low budget television SF of the '60s and '70s couldn't afford to show any worlds that weren't very earthlike, and certainly weren't up to showing locally modified humans that weren't even odder looking than the alien costumes. That said, isn't there some stuff in Star Trek about how the humans, Vulcans and Klingons all share a common ancestor race that had adapted to the various worlds they'd settled before anybody spread out far enough again to re establish contact? That might be NextGen rather than TOS, though.

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/2/2017 9:39:50 AM   
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Actually, this is what bothers me about the drive to colonize Mars. The gravity difference would make it a one way trip. The infant mortality rates would skyrocket. You couldn’t expect women to agree to get pregnant knowing the odds were so highly against bringing a live, healthy child to term.

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/2/2017 10:41:57 AM   
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On the upside, your kids would probably be taller than most Italians before they even start toddling...

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/4/2017 7:37:10 AM   
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On the upside, your kids would probably be taller than most Italians before they even start toddling...



So you are saying mars would become the center of the new NBA?

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/4/2017 8:25:52 AM   
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On the upside, your kids would probably be taller than most Italians before they even start toddling...



So you are saying mars would become the center of the new NBA?


Accentuate the positive...

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/12/2017 8:51:56 AM   
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Actually, this is what bothers me about the drive to colonize Mars. The gravity difference would make it a one way trip. The infant mortality rates would skyrocket. You couldn’t expect women to agree to get pregnant knowing the odds were so highly against bringing a live, healthy child to term.



I have been giving this quite a bit of thought, and while yes, those children born on a low gravity world like Mars would have some difficulty, consider those born on a planet with higher than earth normal gravity?

But, there is this.

In the sci fi realm, artificial gravity is the 'thing.' In star trek it had something to do with some system ship wide that created artificial gravity that could be adjusted per section, but also caused nodes of zero g in four distinct sections of the ship.

But then there is the existence of 'dark matter' to be considered.

Evidently, dark matter seems to have a much higher gravity field of its own, which would then make it theoretically possible to use the stuff to make decking that would produce gravity by its natural characteristics.


Of course, there are experiments using intersecting magnetic fields and other ideas going on as we speak.


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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/12/2017 9:11:57 AM   
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Actually, this is what bothers me about the drive to colonize Mars. The gravity difference would make it a one way trip. The infant mortality rates would skyrocket. You couldn’t expect women to agree to get pregnant knowing the odds were so highly against bringing a live, healthy child to term.



I have been giving this quite a bit of thought, and while yes, those children born on a low gravity world like Mars would have some difficulty, consider those born on a planet with higher than earth normal gravity?

But, there is this.

In the sci fi realm, artificial gravity is the 'thing.' In star trek it had something to do with some system ship wide that created artificial gravity that could be adjusted per section, but also caused nodes of zero g in four distinct sections of the ship.

But then there is the existence of 'dark matter' to be considered.

Evidently, dark matter seems to have a much higher gravity field of its own, which would then make it theoretically possible to use the stuff to make decking that would produce gravity by its natural characteristics.


Of course, there are experiments using intersecting magnetic fields and other ideas going on as we speak.


Why resort to dark matter? IIRC Niven's Ringworld* was either made of, or coated with a thin layer of, neutronium.

I think artificial gravity goes back a lot further than Star Trek. I'm sure it's mentioned in the Lensman books (and probably rejggered into a weapon at some point), and I know it's in some of Poul Anderson, Fredrck Pohl and AE Van Vogt's stuff from the '50s and '60s. Aren't the faster than light spacewarps in a couple of Arthur C Clarke's novels (though I think Imperial Earth, where it involves a captive black hole, was published after Star Trek first appeared) produced by manipulating gravity in some manner as well?

*(like a ringworm, but bigger)

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/12/2017 12:30:11 PM   
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Because Neutronium is a hypothetical substance composed purely of neutrons?

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/12/2017 1:28:20 PM   
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They've yet to find any dark matter yet, so until they do that's a hypothetical substance as well, though. (The observations of other stuff being apparently influenced by invisible non-baryonic matter make a good case, but it's still circumstantial evidence at best.) Neutrons, on the other hand, we're pretty sure do exist. Besides, the notion of a mining industry based on extracting superdense matter from collapsed stars is pure SF, is it not?

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/12/2017 2:25:10 PM   
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not new stuff, just thinking too far outside the box.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2149742-half-the-universes-missing-matter-has-just-been-finally-found/


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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/12/2017 3:29:19 PM   
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They've yet to find any dark matter yet, so until they do that's a hypothetical substance as well, though. (The observations of other stuff being apparently influenced by invisible non-baryonic matter make a good case, but it's still circumstantial evidence at best.) Neutrons, on the other hand, we're pretty sure do exist. Besides, the notion of a mining industry based on extracting superdense matter from collapsed stars is pure SF, is it not?



I think it is a bit beyond hypothetical, except in what it may look like.

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Roughly 80 percent of the mass of the universe is made up of material that scientists cannot directly observe. Known as dark matter, this bizarre ingredient does not emit light or energy. So why do scientists think it dominates?

Studies of other galaxies in the 1950s first indicated that the universe contained more matter than seen by the naked eye. Support for dark matter has grown, and although no solid direct evidence of dark matter has been detected, there have been strong possibilities in recent years.


Now granted the term 'dark matter' seems to be a catch all for whatever objects or particles that seem to make up the missing mass problem.

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/12/2017 3:30:49 PM   
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Interesting read, thanks.

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/13/2017 5:20:01 AM   
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Anyway, getting back to my original post, one of the items that got me thinking along this line was something that Carrie Fisher said.

The first time she wore her 'Princess Leia' costume, she had on a bra and panties, and it did not look right, and she commented on it.

George Lucas looked at her and said, 'Its the future, people dont wear underwear."

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RE: Consdiering the mashups and reboots out of hollywoo... - 12/13/2017 7:07:42 AM   
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George Lucas was probably right on the money, there: in the future nobody will have any dress sense. Have you never seen any episodes of Blake's 7?

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