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LadyPact -> RE: An American dialogue (12/14/2017 3:26:07 AM)
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Frankly, I had to skip the 'spiritual' rape part of the discussion. I don't agree that the word is correct for the context and there is no legal definition that applies to 'rape' of the spirit or the soul.
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ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr
I work on guitars, on the side, for friends. I wouldn't call it a "business", but word gets around ...
So, two (perhaps three) questions follow:
Are you collecting sales tax?
Do you have a business license?
Do you fall in the category of a non-profit?
The business license in particular establishes that you will comply with city, county, state, and federal law including fair business practices and compliance with any non-discrimination laws.
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I work on maybe ten guitars a month, mostly, it's simple things, but I just had a guy contact me, wanting me to do some custom work on a guitar. He wants me to strip it, sand it, paint it and re-finish it.
In light of the second quote I re-posted, I started thinking: What if this guy had asked me to paint "Satan is Lord" on his guitar? I'll do his set up, adjust his Floyd Rose, do all the customizing work, but I'm not painting that.
So, you are saying that you wouldn't paint that for anyone, no matter WHO commissioned the job? All good.
Would you paint a certain slogan for one person, but not another?
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I realize it's a bit of a stretch, but it isn't that far removed from a cake decorator who believes homosexuality is a sin, putting two little men cake toppers on top of a cake. It's that decorator saying/being forced to say: "Same-sex marriage is okay/acceptable/not a sin"
I'm a little iffy about this because a part of this case is the baker saying that he endorses the message if he makes the cake. I'm not sure that's correct. It's not like the cake is going to be rolled out at the reception with a big sign that says "Made by Masterpiece Cake Shop".
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So, neither one of us should be allowed to earn a little extra cash? That seems like a rather extreme punishment for not spouting the party line.
Actually, you're not supposed to be 'earning a little extra cash' on the side.
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I wonder ... if a Christian couple came to a gay cake decorator and wanted a Leviticus quote (you know which one) put on their cake, should the decorator be forced to do it?
We're right back to the same thing. Would the baker do it for one customer, but not another? If the shop owner would do it for me, but not for you, and there is no legal cause to refuse you as a customer, we have to ask why you were denied service.
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I wouldn't want him forced to do it. I can imagine how hurtful/stressful it would be, asking that decorator to do something that makes their entire inner being scream out in disdain.
Is it also not hurtful to be treated like a second class citizen? That you can't purchase the same product available to everyone else?
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I guess that's the difference; one side wants to force their way of life on people with whom they disagree. The other side just wants to not be forced to listen to their inner being scream out in disdain.
Or, it could be said that one particular religion, or even several religions, wants their beliefs to be written into law. "Religious beliefs" are permissible reason to allow people to discriminate.
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