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johnsk -> tone is everything (12/5/2017 5:10:27 AM)

As I look for dominant women and read their profiles, those that are demeaning, insulting, and condescending toward males are a real turn off. Sure, I am OK with female supremacy and FLR but being called a pig, for example..I want no association with a female with such views. Maybe a few men crave that. But I contend most us us do not. Is there any reason not to be polite and civil? Just my opinion.




Greta75 -> RE: tone is everything (12/5/2017 5:33:07 AM)

Here is a simple solution. Find a domme who does not use degrading words and stop bothering with the ones who does, because they already got plenty of men who appreciates them and those men don't want them to change. So why should they change for you?

As simple as that!

Why are you complaining?

Do you think there isn't alot of male dominants who address female subs as like, "Hey slut" on Hello or whatever constantly?

If we don't like it, we ignore them. And we certainly wouldn't even bother with the profile or whatever.




WhoreMods -> RE: tone is everything (12/5/2017 10:13:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: johnsk

As I look for dominant women and read their profiles, those that are demeaning, insulting, and condescending toward males are a real turn off. Sure, I am OK with female supremacy and FLR but being called a pig, for example..I want no association with a female with such views. Maybe a few men crave that. But I contend most us us do not. Is there any reason not to be polite and civil? Just my opinion.

I think a lot of guys are after a Domme who uses such language because being condescended to and insulted is part of their degradation kink. That doesn't appear to float your own boat, which is fair enough.




Onerat1 -> RE: tone is everything (12/5/2017 4:43:22 PM)

Move on to the next profile. If I get mail and the man has to have something I don't like or isn't the age I want or whatever the case may be I answer with not interested. You have your wants and limits like everbody else does. I am only a bottom so I don't know much about d/s but I don't believe there is only one true way.





Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: tone is everything (12/5/2017 8:28:01 PM)

One the evils in play here is the possible trapping of posturing.

The only way to find out is to actually try to engage in message exchanges and not go by purely what is written on a profile. It may stun you that there's a hell of a lot not written on a profile.

I myself can talk a lot of trash but I'm also after real communication too. A profile is always a bit of a facade to persons full psyche anyways. Just a mere fragment of the person you are dealing with. Keep this in mind and be bold enough to take the adventure and explore what's truly behind it.

I love to beat girls, piss all over them, whip, spank, flog and fist 'em. Call them dirty fucking worthless whores and drag them around by the hair and make them crawl on the floor, tie them up and stuff them into closets and shit. If post a lot of this shit on my own profile it does not mean I'm void of polite and civil conversation. This also does not mean, that other things don't matter to me either.

The bitch about profiles striking a balance between coming off bad ass enough for a response, or not bad ass enough to get a response to what one is looking for. Also, what is interesting is how a lot of these "desires" we all have actually over-ride certain emotional aspects, otherwise many people would be over at Match dot com and other places.

I'm going to copy paste something I wrote to somebody in an IM exchange not too long ago, for some insight.

"It's about a connection of mutal interests and desires. The whole energy flow even with all the sexual stuff and everything else. Ironically, something as simple as cup of hot coffee and the feeling of human touch. It's just my world is all kind of screwed up for me have a so called Vanilla relationship. I can't stuff that much of me inside a closest and make it all work. It's a twisted world, when I can truly appreciate and value and adore somebody which I'm free to do many twisted things with, and it stimulates me mentally. I do have my own sense of morality. I'm not looking for love nor expecting for love in the traditional sense of the word. I know I can't make somebody that which they are not, nor fight myself over things."

This is very much directed at one, to which I'm into doing the whole subhuman property deal with, complete with verbal humiliation and degrading them. I would go into details about all the shit I'll do and say. It is exceptionally demeaning, insulting, and condescending (as you mentioned). BTW Fuck Pig is part of my vocabulary. So shit, like "your dirty little fucking worthless cunt fuck pig whore ass is mine" is a very good idea of what kind of asshole Dominant I can and will be when shit is going down. But, I'm not stuck in that state 24/7 either. I am able to express things such as "good girl", "good little pig" or whatever else fits within the context of things. Caress their face and cherish them and the moment.

Also, dare one such as myself would admit it. I would never want any "true harm" to come to them. I know the concept of "true harm" is a little sketchy, but it fits with my own sense of morality. Me pissing down somebody's throat ain't true harm (damn light weights LOL). If however, breath play mishap occured... that's awhole different dimension of what is true harm.

Recently somebody shared an activity shown in a cartoon, to which I've never encountered before. It stunned me, and I expressed that I was not comfortable with doing it. Unless I did my research and first tried it out on myself. Like anything else, try it out all tame and mild and work up the intensity until I myself have a clear understanding of WTF is going on. I made jokes about probably doing this out of their sight and I tend to do self-experimentation which I may or may not openly talk about. This too, is to not trainwreck the illusion or imagery of being all bad ass. One has to keep up the asshole status, especially when it comes to literally being that asshole humiliating and using somebody else.

My whole damn point here, is to try and peek behind these vails... that us demeaning, insulting, and condescending asshole Dom/mes throw up at times. Ironically, there's a hell of a lot of shit which we assume should be "givens" when it comes to anybody experienced in this madness. Then again, there are clearly troll fantasy profiles, which scammers, fakes or people just looking for wanking material to get off on for some hot fantasy. Also, some people are true sadist through and through too. Sadism even varies. I have an Ex which figured out she's a true sadist especially mentally, she enjoys mentally hurting the men she get's involved with. She's opted to seclude herself away from most social interactions outside of work. She's taken up to being a "Cat Lady". So keep this shit in mind. I would go on more about this shit.

What's behind the vails of a profile, you yourself should dare explore. It may or may not suprise you. Although keep in mind, that's there's a vast amount of fakes, scammers, posers and all that shit being this is online and all. That's more than enough frustration to deal with. Turn over the rocks and stones in the rubled landscape. Peek behind some of those vails or facades.

Good luck in your search.





needlesandpins -> RE: tone is everything (12/6/2017 12:25:21 PM)

If you were a woman seeing how many men have profiles talking about themselves in such a fashion, you'd understand why these women do this. On the other side of the coin, some of us women find men like that a complete turn off, as are the ones that constantly find something to moan about instead of just hiding the profiles that don't suit, and moving on to the next.

Needles




porcelaine -> RE: tone is everything (12/6/2017 5:47:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Whiplashsmile4

The only way to find out is to actually try to engage in message exchanges and not go by purely what is written on a profile. It may stun you that there's a hell of a lot not written on a profile.


This is correct. I downplay many things to alleviate all of the issues you’ve mentioned. That wasn’t always the case and the messages I received were a result of what I revealed. Many went beyond those things.

Less is more has eliminated these problems and my discourse is pleasant and respectable. I have discovered that the profile sets the tone. If don’t wish to attract a particular person it would be in my best interest not to speak their language in my description.

Yours is most colorful and creative. [;)]

~porcelaine




longwayhome -> RE: tone is everything (12/7/2017 2:39:57 PM)

If you look there are plenty of Dommes who don't want someone who acts as if they are worthless because they themselves prefer a dynamic where they are not being demeaning and insulting to someone.

The worthless shit school of Dommery has its adherents. Many men do genuinely want that despite what you think, and the fact that it's a bit of a porn cliché, so you have to respect that choice even if it is not for you. No-one is however making you follow that path.

I do get where you are coming from because I prefer something a bit more subtle. In fact there have been threads here where female D types have complained bitterly that they come across too many men who want to be humiliated when that isn't what they want.

Take a stroll through the profiles on the other side and you will find a number of Dommes who explicitly don't want someone whose whole approach is to be a lowly worm. They may want someone to own and cherish, or a sub who is "proud" to be a sub. They may not want drama and someone who just knows their place. They may like high protocol or want no protocol at all. There are many many flavours.

Not sure if this is where you are coming from but if don't like the whole "I have many subs and don't care for any of them" and you want someone who genuinely cares about you, there are people out there like that.

However as another poster has alluded to there is a difference between style and substance, as well as different layers to people's relationships. One of the most in love couples I ever saw were a Domme and her "nothing". They were all about how worthless he was to her and fairly hardcore about it. They were however together for years and she clearly cherished him in a way he responded to. Furthermore there is all the world of difference between having a "stable" who you treat as worms and cuckolding someone you love dearly.

Deciding you don't want to be a worm or a pig is only a starting point. Despite the impression you give in your post you will find plenty of Dommes who are on that page too.




DarkSteven -> RE: tone is everything (12/9/2017 6:03:56 PM)

Almost all of the collarspace profiles' owners are incompatible with me. They are male, Dommes, not living in Colorado or willing to relocate, not visually appealing to me, not intelligent, full of anger, etc.

I ignore them, and focus on the ones that ARE compatible.




NoirMetal -> RE: tone is everything (12/9/2017 7:22:06 PM)

Because you are looking at whore profiles.

It's how they advertise that their pussy is a fucking gold mine.




ReMakeYou -> RE: tone is everything (12/9/2017 10:03:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

Because you are looking at whore profiles.

It's how they advertise that their pussy is a fucking gold mine.


This is more accurate than people like to admit. Quality control on this site is absolute shit. (I'll spare you the reasons they can't afford to pay a solid moderating team, but actual mods are indeed rather thin on the ground.) As such, camgirls who think that following a well-worn script will bring them new customers have run wild. Once you accept that it's too many people putting up ads for commercial services, you go from "women suck/dommes suck" into a much less loaded "spammers suck".




DesFIP -> RE: tone is everything (12/9/2017 11:01:55 PM)

Stop focusing on looking online. Go meet people in your local community. Focus on making friends, not on having your wishlist fulfillled.




longwayhome -> RE: tone is everything (12/10/2017 2:28:00 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Stop focusing on looking online. Go meet people in your local community. Focus on making friends, not on having your wishlist fulfillled.


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