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heres bunches more "dealing with the content" for you mnottertroll:
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Here are 13 things that don’t add up in the Trump-Russia ties report.
From: “Company Intelligence Report 2016/080” 20 June 2016
1. “Russian regime has been cultivating, supporting and assisting TRUMP for at least 5 years. Aim, endorsed by Putin, has been to encourage splits and divisions in the Western alliance.”
If true, this makes the Russian regime pretty much psychic, since in 2011 there was little hint that Trump would pursue a political career that would take him much further than his campaign to convince Americans that President Barack Obama was not born in the U.S. and therefore was not legally permitted to be president. Five years ago, Trump was recovering from his latest bankruptcy, and concentrating on his reality show The Apprentice and the Miss Universe competition. As for “supporting and assisting” Trump during that time period—indeed Miss Universe was held in a mall in Moscow in 2013. Though Trump later hinted that Putin attended the contest, the Russian President and indeed all top Russian officials stayed home.
2. “So far TRUMP has declined serious sweetheart real estate business deals offered him in Russia…”
Really? If Trump declined the deals, why did he push so hard to meet with Russian business leaders after the Miss Universe competition? And why did he try and fail to push his Trump Tower deal in Moscow and St. Petersburg as late as 2013, as reported in Newsweek?
3. “However he and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on Democratic and other political rivals.”
A regular flow of intelligence on Clinton? Such as what exactly? Trump may have coined the “Crooked Hillary” and “Lock Her Up” slogans, in relation to Clinton’s use of a private email server while she was Secretary of State—but there’s no evidence that Trump or his campaign used any kind of secret intelligence in their campaign. The controversial online break-ins at the Democratic National Committee, thought to be the work of two Russian hacking groups, APT 28 and APT 29, were communicated to Wikileaks, not to the Trump campaign. And furthermore, the leaked DNC emails didn’t contain anything particularly explosive or damaging.
4. “Former top Russian intelligence officer claims FSB has compromised TRUMP [whose] conduct in Moscow has included perverted sexual acts which have been arranged/monitored by the FSB.”
Fascinating if true. But it also gives rise to a serious question—if Trump has known about the existence of this tape for some time (as the report later alleges), wouldn't it amount to a ticking time bomb under his campaign and his career?
5. “A dossier of compromising material on Hillary Clinton has been collated by the Russian intelligence services over many years and mainly comprises bugged conversations she had on various visits to Russia.… However it has not been distributed abroad, including to TRUMP.”
As Secretary of State, Clinton used non-secure communications while in Russia that resulted in “compromising material” being gathered by the FSB? Hard to credit. And the FSB, which was supposedly passing secret information to Trump’s campaign, chose not to share its supposedly compromising material on Clinton? That seems to contradict point 3.
6. “The dossier is controlled by Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, directly on Putin’s orders.”
Why would such a dossier be controlled by Peskov, whose job is to talk to the press, when it must have originated with the FSB and/or FAPSI, the federal electronic surveillance service? Peskov is a Kremlin courtier, the charming public face of the regime, not a spy.
7. “Speaking to a trusted compatriot in June 2016 sources A and B, a senior Russian Foreign Ministry figure and a former top level Russian intelligence officer still active inside the Kremlin…”
Hearsay evidence. These sources may be bone fide—but they’re already at least one degree of separation from the author of the report. He has never even spoken to these top level sources himself.
8. “Source A confided that the Kremlin has been feeding TRUMP and his team valuable intelligence on his opponents, including…Clinton, for several years.”
Several years? Those psychic Russians again. Trump announced his candidacy on June 16, 2015. Clinton announced hers on April 12, 2015.
9. Source D, “a close associate of TRUMP who had organized and managed his recent trips to Moscow” is cited as as an eyewitness to TRUMP’s “personal obsessions and sexual perversions.” “According to Source D, where s/he had been present, TRUMP’s (perverted) conduct in Moscow included hiring the presidential suite of the Ritz Carlton hotel where he knew that President and Mrs OBAMA (whom he hated) had stayed…and defiling the bed where they had slept by employing a number of prostitutes to perform a ‘golden showers’ (urination) show in front of him. The hotel was known to be under FSB control with microphones and concealed cameras in all the main rooms.”
Leaving aside the allegation itself (which is later supposedly backed up by the testimonies of Sources E, F and B), it’s worth looking at the tortured and borderline non-native syntax of this sentence. Would a native English speaker talk of a hotel being “under FSB control”? That’s a clear Russianism ("pod kontrolem FSB") that may be picked up from the original source—or may suggest that the author isn’t actually a British MI6 agent at all.
10. The existence of a “Russian dossier or ‘kompromat’ on Hillary Clinton” is confirmed by “Source B…S/he confided in a trusted compatriot that it had been collated by Department K of the FSB for many years.”
This makes no sense. The FSB’s Directorate K is one of the most controversial departments of Russia’s security elite, and its remit translates as “counter intelligence in financial services.” Directorate K has been involved directly and indirectly in some of the dirtiest scandals of recent times—including the plundering of Hermitage Capital and the murder of their lawyer Sergei Magnitsky in 2009. But it has nothing to do with gathering intelligence on foreign leaders—that’s the SVR, the Foreign Intelligence Service, and FAPSI, the electronic eavesdropping department.
From: “Report 2016/095”
11. “Source E, an ethnic Russian close associate of…TRUMP admitted that there was a well-developed conspiracy of co-operation between them and the Russian leadership. This was managed on the TRUMP side by…campaign manager Paul MANAFORT who was using foreign policy adviser Carter Page and others as intermediaries.”
Source E, who is not described in any more detail, is a goldmine of information. He, or she, claims that in exchange for intelligence on their opponents “the TRUMP team had agreed to sideline Russian intervention in Ukraine as a campaign issue and to raise US/NATO defence commitments in the Baltics and Eastern Europe to deflect attention away from Ukraine, a priority for PUTIN who needed to cauterise the subject.” Again, oddly non-native syntax here—and also no mention of the fact that all the Trump men mentioned have been long-standing opponents of sanctions on Russia even before any possible intelligence deal.
From: “Report 2016/94” 19th July 2016
12. “TRUMP advisor Carter Page holds secret meetings in Moscow with [Igor] Sechin and senior Kremlin internal affairs official DIVEYEKIN” who “discusses release of Russian dossier of kompromat on…Hillary Clinton, but also hints at Kremlin possession of such material on TRUMP.”
Fascinating if true. But Page has denied such meetings—and this raises the question of why the Russians would bother arranging cloak-and-dagger secret meetings with a self-declared Trump emissary (Trump only named Page as an adviser in an interview with the Post editorial board in September) rather than have direct contact with more senior members of the Trump team in the U.S.
From: “Report 2016/166” 13 December 2016
13. “TRUMP’s representative COHEN accompanied to Prague in August/September…for secret discussions with Kremlin representatives and associated operators/hackers.”
This report in the Buzzfeed leak is the most bizarre of all. The author asserts that Russian agents of the cultural organization Rossotrudnichestvo spoke to Trump’s lawyer in Prague about “how deniable cash payments were made to hackers who had worked in Europe under Kremlin direction against the CLINTON campaign.” This makes no sense at all. According to a detailed report on the DNC hack by private internet security company Crowdstrike in June 2016, the hack was undertaken by high-level professionals and began as early as 2014. Why would Russian agents be talking about it to Cohen in August 2016?
Most weirdly of all, there is a reference to standing down “various Romanian hackers” and organizing a bolthole in Plovdiv, Bulgaria, for them. Note that the supposed hacked DNC material leaker, calling himself Guccifer 2.0, had pretended to be Romanian but was exposed in the detailed Crowdstrike report to actually have spoken very bad Romanian and was, in fact, linked through various Yahoo accounts to a user in Russia. It’s not clear whether this reference to Romanian hackers is linked to the fake Romanian “Guccifer 2.0” straw man set up to disguise the real identity of the hackers.
from your fellow comrades at: http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-russia-intelligence-dossier-hacking-541626
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