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Buyer Beware - 12/18/2017 11:16:12 AM   
toadknocker


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I joined CS a few months ago and just read some of the posts. A couple of months ago I released my sub and so about a month ago I thought I would give this a go. I have had a true learning experience. I thought this would be like minded people seeking connection, but instead it seems more of a cacophony of thieves and liars trying to make a quick buck. When you make contact they give you a phone that never works for voice conversation. (In this day and age there is no phone that does not work without voice) Then they invariability have a price due to being sold or some recent calamity in which they need from $100-$1,000 dollars. When you send they of course disappear and you are so embarrassed so it is never reported. Anyone had this happen? My most resent bizarre event happened with this person: http://www.collarspace.com/personals/m/r/id/-1286847055/PerPage/18/PageNum/1/read.htm

She claims to be Xiang Lima, she of course had the bad phone but told me she was a slave for ten years to a very popular Senater. She said he gave her a home to live in but due to publicity had stopped contacting her and she was desperate with no electricity and no food. See where this is going? She told me she was in Tampa so instead of sending money, I had a free weekend with nothing better to do so I decided to call her on her story and said I would just drive down there and meet her in person. She gave me an address and assured me she was starving and needed me to send $100 before I got there. I did not and took the ten hour drive to discover it was a real estate listing and no one was living there. She texted me at 2am with a changed story that the house was stolen from her and she was on the run from the FBI and afraid to meet me. Then a bunch of other crazy stuff and another request for money. I said she was a liar and a thief and us using this board to get money from men. Interestingly for four nights in a row she would text at around 2 am so this indicates to me she may be in Europe due to time difference. On the drive home it was time to think about some things and about making this post. There are bad men as well as bad women and it seems a ton are on this board to con people out of their dignity and money. Good BDSM raises people up and empowers them and it is sad when people with honest needs and intentions are taken advantage of. To date I have yet to meet one person that is who they say they are. I seek my last sub but I sincerely doubt based on my experience that she will ever be found here.
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RE: Buyer Beware - 12/18/2017 11:22:11 AM   
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You had to drive 10 hours to figure out that you were bring played? Are you sure you want to post this in multiple forums? It might not have the result you're expecting.

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RE: Buyer Beware - 12/18/2017 12:19:06 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: toadknocker

I joined CS a few months ago and just read some of the posts. A couple of months ago I released my sub and so about a month ago I thought I would give this a go. I have had a true learning experience. I thought this would be like minded people seeking connection, but instead it seems more of a cacophony of thieves and liars trying to make a quick buck. When you make contact they give you a phone that never works for voice conversation. (In this day and age there is no phone that does not work without voice) Then they invariability have a price due to being sold or some recent calamity in which they need from $100-$1,000 dollars. When you send they of course disappear and you are so embarrassed so it is never reported. Anyone had this happen? My most resent bizarre event happened with this person: http://www.collarspace.com/personals/m/r/id/-1286847055/PerPage/18/PageNum/1/read.htm

She claims to be Xiang Lima, she of course had the bad phone but told me she was a slave for ten years to a very popular Senater. She said he gave her a home to live in but due to publicity had stopped contacting her and she was desperate with no electricity and no food. See where this is going? She told me she was in Tampa so instead of sending money, I had a free weekend with nothing better to do so I decided to call her on her story and said I would just drive down there and meet her in person. She gave me an address and assured me she was starving and needed me to send $100 before I got there. I did not and took the ten hour drive to discover it was a real estate listing and no one was living there. She texted me at 2am with a changed story that the house was stolen from her and she was on the run from the FBI and afraid to meet me. Then a bunch of other crazy stuff and another request for money. I said she was a liar and a thief and us using this board to get money from men. Interestingly for four nights in a row she would text at around 2 am so this indicates to me she may be in Europe due to time difference. On the drive home it was time to think about some things and about making this post. There are bad men as well as bad women and it seems a ton are on this board to con people out of their dignity and money. Good BDSM raises people up and empowers them and it is sad when people with honest needs and intentions are taken advantage of. To date I have yet to meet one person that is who they say they are. I seek my last sub but I sincerely doubt based on my experience that she will ever be found here.

Have they done an S&M special on Catfish yet? This stuff seems to happen even more in kink circles than it does on more vanilla dating sites.

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RE: Buyer Beware - 12/18/2017 1:13:22 PM   
Onerat1


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No idea why some people believe this kind of site is different then other kinds. People scam others on the phone, mail, email and in person. People are people everywhere. Good and bad on all sites and the real world.

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RE: Buyer Beware - 12/18/2017 1:23:44 PM   
MissKatya


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quote:

ORIGINAL: toadknocker

"...She gave me an address and assured me she was starving and needed me to send $100 before I got there."



You know, you can look up addresses on google maps. You can even see the street view-would have saved you some travel time.

Oh wait, I forgot-the internet is just for porn and cat videos. Nevermind. Carry on with your pity party.



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RE: Buyer Beware - 12/18/2017 1:31:42 PM   
LadyPact


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Maybe the OP decided to post it in two forums after figuring out that the Intro section doesn't have the ability to reply. (I happen to find this especially funny because there's a thread about missing the opportunity to do so and wait for posters to wander to other sections before we shred them. Yes, I do have a weird sense of humor.)

OK, OP, I do have to tell you that the post is messed up from the start. We're not supposed to be doing this thing called blacklisting around here. You can read about that here: http://www.collarchat.com/m_1163969/tm.htm That's over and above my personal opinion that nobody should be posting what they think is another person's first and last name, which in my personal view is akin to outing. If you're going to say anything about what "good" people involved in BDSM do, I probably have to say that outing isn't one of them.

When people make posts like these, it makes me wonder what it is about them that they attract scammers or why scammers target them. Usually, the answer to this has to do with the age of the party looking (middle age or more) and the age group of the people they are perusing (usually much younger). It's not a perfect science but after reading threads like this all of these years, they are almost always written by people complaining about younger women. Males younger than yourself write them too, however those tend to be about women in their age group.

You didn't give the person any money directly. (By the way, giving someone money kind of rules out the "thief" part. If you give someone money, they aren't stealing it from you.) Instead, you drove ten hours to figure out if this person was telling the truth or not. I would have thought you'd figure this out when this person told you they were involved with a Senator for ten years, who gave her a house, but I guess never gave her anything else that she could hock to pay an electric bill. Wasn't there anything about what you wrote in your post that just plain sounded ridiculous to you?

I'm going to give a little credit here. At least the person researched and found an address that wasn't occupied with other people. She gets points.

Why would you continue wasting your time on all of this unless it was for you personal amusement? (Like I'm doing now because I find this funny as hell.) You spent all this time interacting with this person, plus drove ten hours on top of whatever other time you wasted, even though you already knew she was trying to get money out of you. Wouldn't it just be easier to say that you're not interested in anybody who asks for money? Problem solved.

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To date I have yet to meet one person that is who they say they are.

Dude, I'm going to tell you that there is something you are doing wrong. I base this on the fact that a lot of people from the forums have met each other over the years, whether that be friends, kink, or actually meeting the person they are involved with. If this thread even makes it to two pages, you're going to find at least some people who have met other people from the site, including myself.

Please start using your brain cells. Thanks.






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RE: Buyer Beware - 12/18/2017 2:46:31 PM   
peppermint


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OP, you need to get your story straight. Either you released your submissive two months ago as you have state here, or you have been alone for 10 years as you wrote just 2 months ago in your profile. Difficult to be alone for many years while owning a submissive.

You sound awfully desperate. Desperation is only going to attract the online scammers. They smell desperation through the internet.

You need to read the Terms of Service you agreed to follow when you joined this site.

If I were a submissive who was looking for a dominant and I read your profile and this post, you'd be crossed off my possibility list in a moment.

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RE: Buyer Beware - 12/18/2017 4:47:10 PM   
DocStrange


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quote:

ORIGINAL: toadknocker

I joined CS a few months ago and just read some of the posts. A couple of months ago I released my sub and so about a month ago I thought I would give this a go. I have had a true learning experience. I thought this would be like minded people seeking connection, but instead it seems more of a cacophony of thieves and liars trying to make a quick buck. When you make contact they give you a phone that never works for voice conversation. (In this day and age there is no phone that does not work without voice) Then they invariability have a price due to being sold or some recent calamity in which they need from $100-$1,000 dollars. When you send they of course disappear and you are so embarrassed so it is never reported. Anyone had this happen? My most resent bizarre event happened with this person: http://www.collarspace.com/personals/m/r/id/-1286847055/PerPage/18/PageNum/1/read.htm

She claims to be Xiang Lima, she of course had the bad phone but told me she was a slave for ten years to a very popular Senater. She said he gave her a home to live in but due to publicity had stopped contacting her and she was desperate with no electricity and no food. See where this is going? She told me she was in Tampa so instead of sending money, I had a free weekend with nothing better to do so I decided to call her on her story and said I would just drive down there and meet her in person. She gave me an address and assured me she was starving and needed me to send $100 before I got there. I did not and took the ten hour drive to discover it was a real estate listing and no one was living there. She texted me at 2am with a changed story that the house was stolen from her and she was on the run from the FBI and afraid to meet me. Then a bunch of other crazy stuff and another request for money. I said she was a liar and a thief and us using this board to get money from men. Interestingly for four nights in a row she would text at around 2 am so this indicates to me she may be in Europe due to time difference. On the drive home it was time to think about some things and about making this post. There are bad men as well as bad women and it seems a ton are on this board to con people out of their dignity and money. Good BDSM raises people up and empowers them and it is sad when people with honest needs and intentions are taken advantage of. To date I have yet to meet one person that is who they say they are. I seek my last sub but I sincerely doubt based on my experience that she will ever be found here.

There are so many red flags with this story that i simply find it hard to believe that anyone is that stupid.

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RE: Buyer Beware - 12/18/2017 5:23:41 PM   
Greta75


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I watched Dr Phil about how scammers profile people.

1) They tell the person ridiculous stories

2) They speak in really bad English


If this person still bites despite all the ridiculous details and clearly bad English despite claiming to be from the US or whatever, they know they have struck gold and they can scam this person over and over again.

So please don't be one of these people. It ALWAYS happen to old lonely men. And it also happens to middle age lonely women. You only got scam off a couple of dollars. A woman in my country got scam off 10 million by an Australian man. But his was high level scam as he actually met her in person to gain her trust first that he is real.

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