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MasterJaguar01 -> Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/27/2017 5:44:30 PM)
Flynn must have some REALLY damning information. It looks like team Trump is going full Breitbart on Flynn. Expect Hannity to lead, and then the full 24/7 Fox News blitz against Flynn. BoscoX will parrot it all on cue. It is desperation time. The Flynn-bashing will begin shortly. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-legal-team-readies-attack-on-flynns-credibility/2017/12/27/bc601324-ea78-11e7-b698-91d4e35920a3_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpdefense-435pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.87f9172e9f05

DesideriScuri -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/27/2017 5:59:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 Flynn must have some REALLY damning information. It looks like team Trump is going full Breitbart on Flynn. Expect Hannity to lead, and then the full 24/7 Fox News blitz against Flynn. BoscoX will parrot it all on cue. It is desperation time. The Flynn-bashing will begin shortly. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-legal-team-readies-attack-on-flynns-credibility/2017/12/27/bc601324-ea78-11e7-b698-91d4e35920a3_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trumpdefense-435pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.87f9172e9f05 From your link: quote: Attorneys for Trump and his top advisers have privately expressed confidence that Flynn does not have any evidence that could implicate the president or his White House team. But since Flynn’s cooperation agreement with prosecutors was made public earlier this month, the administration has been strategizing how to neutralize him in case the former national security adviser does make any claims. ... Defense lawyers have said privately that Flynn will be unable to point to White House or campaign records turned over in the probe to bolster any claims of a criminal scheme. None of those records suggest a conspiracy by Trump or his inner circle to improperly work with Russians to defeat Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, according to people who have reviewed the documents. So, Trump's legal team is looking at ways to undermine any claims the Gen. Flynn makes that implicates Trump? Sounds like a good defense team, imo. If the White House or campaign records don't show any impropriety, but Flynn still makes claims there was impropriety, wouldn't you want your defense team (if you were in Trump's shoes) to be ready to point out that Flynn has already admitted to lying once? Isn't that a legitimate fact considering there aren't any records showing any impropriety? If Gen. Flynn implicates Trump or any of Trump's inner circle, the media is going to go hog wild over it. FFS, they've gone hog wild in celebrating Trump's demise when someone not-Trump has been caught lying, even though it still doesn't point to any collusion or Trump-Russia conspiracy. What would you have your defense team doing if you were in Trump's position? p.s. Isn't it against TOS to mention another poster in a thread if that poster hasn't joined the thread?

bounty44 -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 1:22:53 AM)
quote: Getting ready to attack Flynn [sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif] quote: and then the full 24/7 Fox News blitz against Flynn. you have absolutely no clue about fox news but if you want to keep looking foolish, please, keep up the inane declarations. quote: p.s. Isn't it against TOS to mention another poster in a thread if that poster hasn't joined the thread? so far as I can tell desi its just a "rule," meant for civility's sake, that mod 3 made up.

heavyblinker -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 2:22:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: Getting ready to attack Flynn [sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif] quote: and then the full 24/7 Fox News blitz against Flynn. you have absolutely no clue about fox news but if you want to keep looking foolish, please, keep up the inane declarations. Yeah, it's really foolish to believe that your precious RWNJ 'news' would attack Flynn. We already know they didn't attack Mueller, so why would they start attacking Flynn?

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 6:01:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 you have absolutely no clue about fox news but if you want to keep looking foolish, please, keep up the inane declarations. No. It is you, who have no clue about Fox News. You keep looking foolish, every time you comment on them.

BoscoX -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 6:15:52 AM)
What's hilarious about MJ's star witness against our duly elected president... His claim to fame is that he lies under oath [:D] MJ's hitmen will need a whole lot more than that to overturn the election

Lucylastic -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 6:43:13 AM)
It seems that there are a whole bunch of trumps team that lie under oath, others are simply liars. sessions jr kushner eric manafort pappad gates flynn priebus spicer conway scarramucci SHS I know Ive forgotton his entire cabinet(so it seems) Flynns son, and trump notwithstanding. Liars all. hee

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 6:51:39 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX What's hilarious about MJ's star witness against our duly elected president... His claim to fame is that he lies under oath [:D] MJ's hitmen will need a whole lot more than that to overturn the election And so it starts :)

vincentML -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 6:58:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX What's hilarious about MJ's star witness against our duly elected president... His claim to fame is that he lies under oath [:D] MJ's hitmen will need a whole lot more than that to overturn the election Overturn the election? That would not be the American way. We just wish to stop the pillage being carried out in the name of governance.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 7:20:14 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: p.s. Isn't it against TOS to mention another poster in a thread if that poster hasn't joined the thread? so far as I can tell desi its just a "rule," meant for civility's sake, that mod 3 made up. I don't know about now, but it WAS a rule at one time because some would mention another poster (who didn't frequent the "unmoderated" threads) in the "unmoderated" threads as a means to (so bravely) attack another poster without being subject to refutation. I'm not certain where the lines were drawn, but I *know* there *was* a rule. On the topic: It's all very simple. It's black-letter law: someone who's been convicted of (plead guilty to) lying under oath is a "tainted" witness. Their conviction/guilty plea CAN be used against them, under cross-examination and, in some cases, the judge could decide the probative value of their testimony doesn't out-weigh the prejudicial aspect (because of their history of lying) and exclude the testimony, altogether. So, "attacking" Flynn, in this case seems fair (certainly) and maybe even a smart move. Peace, Michael

Lucylastic -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 7:30:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: vincentML quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX What's hilarious about MJ's star witness against our duly elected president... His claim to fame is that he lies under oath [:D] MJ's hitmen will need a whole lot more than that to overturn the election Overturn the election? That would not be the American way. We just wish to stop the pillage being carried out in the name of governance. im not aware of any poster that believes that overturning the election is the point, from the left at least, but I could be wrong. It seems that "overturning the election" is more projection than anything. Because nothing would have happened if trump hadnt fired comey. His own words, and actions started the investigation.

MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 8:50:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DaddySatyr quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 quote: p.s. Isn't it against TOS to mention another poster in a thread if that poster hasn't joined the thread? so far as I can tell desi its just a "rule," meant for civility's sake, that mod 3 made up. I don't know about now, but it WAS a rule at one time because some would mention another poster (who didn't frequent the "unmoderated" threads) in the "unmoderated" threads as a means to (so bravely) attack another poster without being subject to refutation. I'm not certain where the lines were drawn, but I *know* there *was* a rule. On the topic: It's all very simple. It's black-letter law: someone who's been convicted of (plead guilty to) lying under oath is a "tainted" witness. Their conviction/guilty plea CAN be used against them, under cross-examination and, in some cases, the judge could decide the probative value of their testimony doesn't out-weigh the prejudicial aspect (because of their history of lying) and exclude the testimony, altogether. So, "attacking" Flynn, in this case seems fair (certainly) and maybe even a smart move. Peace, Michael None of that matters, as long as Mueller can corroberate the information given by Flynn wi th other untainted sources. We will see what happens.

DaddySatyr -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 8:54:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic Because nothing would have happened if trump hadnt fired comey. His own words, and actions started the investigation. I think those last two lines might be the crux of the issue for a good majority on both sides. At one time or another, Comey had pissed off the Left and the Right. There's no doubt about it and ... for the record: 1) I believe Comey was way out of his depth (and authority), when he "exonerated" the she-cunt. B) I believe he *may* have been attempting to meddle in the election in OCT 2016, when he announced there may be "new news" (Carlos Danger's computer) about the investigation (which he supposedly already closed, when he didn't have the authority to do so) into Shrillary's emails. So, I think *BOTH* sides feel like they're justified in the desire to see Comey go. That said, once President Trump *did* fire him (Comey), it gave the left a chance to use Comey as a chip to start a "Special Counsel" investigation, based upon "Obstruction" claims. What's funny is there are some constitutional scholars that claim a president cannot obstruct justice, by definition. I'm not sure I agree, but they make an interesting argument.

WhoreMods -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 9:19:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX What's hilarious about MJ's star witness against our ~~duly elected~~appointed by the electoral college in defiance of the popular vote president... His claim to fame is that he lies under oath [:D] MJ's hitmen will need a whole lot more than that to overturn the election FIFY

DaddySatyr -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 9:33:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoreMods quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX What's hilarious about MJ's star witness against our ~~duly elected~~appointed by the electoral college in defiance of the popular vote president... His claim to fame is that he lies under oath [:D] MJ's hitmen will need a whole lot more than that to overturn the election FIFY RIFY

DesideriScuri -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 9:35:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 quote: ORIGINAL: BoscoX What's hilarious about MJ's star witness against our duly elected president... His claim to fame is that he lies under oath [:D] MJ's hitmen will need a whole lot more than that to overturn the election And so it starts :) Just because you were right in your OP doesn't mean it wasn't against the TOS or just Mod 3's rule. [:D] [:D] [:D]

CreativeDominant -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 10:09:39 AM)
FR https://www.google.com/amp/thehill.com/opinion/white-house/365393-how-quickly-ny-times-forgets-obamas-lies-and-frauds%3famp Obama Hillary Clinton Susan Rice L. Todd Wood Eric Holder Lois Lerner Kathleen Sebelius Lisa Jackson etc.

MrRodgers -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 1:30:45 PM)
This is nothing new at all, just repub 101...their MO. The republican political cult has denigrated all on the left, the center/left, all opponents, all those who have any criticisms of their policies and have for 40 years...gone after all of the messengers and stay away from the message. Just like they did Comey and Hills and are now Muellers, every single opportunity they get. Repubs go after the media, after the Internet and anything or anybody that doesn't fall in line. Give me a copy of the RNC directory...full of liars, obfuscators and partisan party hacks. Repubs didn't and don't just point to aspects of their disagreement with other policies but their proponents are traitors, communists, socialists or Kenyan closet destroyers of America. I am waiting and it may not be much longer, when the right tells America that the only good liberal...is a dead liberal. How much longer from there will it take for their mantra to become the only good opponent of any kind...is a dead opponent ?

DesideriScuri -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 2:19:43 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MrRodgers This is nothing new at all, just repub 101...their MO. The republican political cult has denigrated all on the left, the center/left, all opponents, all those who have any criticisms of their policies and have for 40 years...gone after all of the messengers and stay away from the message. Just like they did Comey and Hills and are now Muellers, every single opportunity they get. Repubs go after the media, after the Internet and anything or anybody that doesn't fall in line. Give me a copy of the RNC directory...full of liars, obfuscators and partisan party hacks. Repubs didn't and don't just point to aspects of their disagreement with other policies but their proponents are traitors, communists, socialists or Kenyan closet destroyers of America. I am waiting and it may not be much longer, when the right tells America that the only good liberal...is a dead liberal. How much longer from there will it take for their mantra to become the only good opponent of any kind...is a dead opponent ? This is the current state of US Partisan politics. Both sides do it (don't agree with Obama? You're a racist.). Your bile throwing at only one side only makes you look like a hypocrite.

bounty44 -> RE: Getting ready to attack Flynn (12/28/2017 2:57:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01 quote: ORIGINAL: bounty44 you have absolutely no clue about fox news but if you want to keep looking foolish, please, keep up the inane declarations. No. It is you, who have no clue about Fox News. You keep looking foolish, every time you comment on them. good critique, just parrot back in reverse what i said to you. sorry, I actually watch fox news and practically every single time one of you comrades comments on it, its something observationally wrong and not even close to being the truth. its been 2-3 days now---has the blitz started yet? are we in the midst of it? is the blitz over? did we miss the blitz? oh no! [sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif][sm=runaway.gif] although, since youre apparently a more astute observer of fox than I am, i'll look forward to all the actual comments attacking Flynn from each of the few dozen shows they have. a "blitz" means you should have tons of material right? otherwise, really, wise up.

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