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The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 10:49:13 AM   
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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 10:51:42 AM   
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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 10:55:24 AM   
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As evenly distributed as possible to give everyone equal opportunities and to ensure that nobody has an unfair advantage.

Or concentrated into the hands of a small number of holding companies and media firms who refuse to pay any tax on the vast profits they make in any of the countries where they make these profits. That seems a popular approach at the moment, often with the people who are getting fucked over by the arrangement.

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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 11:08:29 AM   
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As evenly distributed as possible to give everyone equal opportunities and to ensure that nobody has an unfair advantage.

Or concentrated into the hands of a small number of holding companies and media firms who refuse to pay any tax on the vast profits they make in any of the countries where they make these profits. That seems a popular approach at the moment, often with the people who are getting fucked over by the arrangement.


So although they are getting fucked off /over by the arrangement, those people support it because they believe the Nation's Money (and therefore it's power and security) is safest in the hands of the others that you listed above) then in their own hands?

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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 11:20:06 AM   
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As evenly distributed as possible to give everyone equal opportunities and to ensure that nobody has an unfair advantage.

Or concentrated into the hands of a small number of holding companies and media firms who refuse to pay any tax on the vast profits they make in any of the countries where they make these profits. That seems a popular approach at the moment, often with the people who are getting fucked over by the arrangement.


So although they are getting fucked off /over by the arrangement, those people support it because they believe the Nation's Money (and therefore it's power and security) is safest in the hands of the others that you listed above) then in their own hands?

You tell me: you're the one asking leading questions in the hope of getting a specific answer.

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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 11:23:42 AM   
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As evenly distributed as possible to give everyone equal opportunities and to ensure that nobody has an unfair advantage.

Or concentrated into the hands of a small number of holding companies and media firms who refuse to pay any tax on the vast profits they make in any of the countries where they make these profits. That seems a popular approach at the moment, often with the people who are getting fucked over by the arrangement.


So although they are getting fucked off /over by the arrangement, those people support it because they believe the Nation's Money (and therefore it's power and security) is safest in the hands of the others that you listed above) then in their own hands?


They assume that the rich deserve what they have.
It's called the 'just world fallacy'.

It also explains why they tend to be racists, sexists, bigots and victim-blamers-- they also tend to believe that if oppressed groups didn't deserve their oppression, they wouldn't be oppressed in the first place.

http://www.springhole.net/logical-fallacies/just-world-fallacy.htm

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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 11:43:33 AM   
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As evenly distributed as possible to give everyone equal opportunities and to ensure that nobody has an unfair advantage.

Or concentrated into the hands of a small number of holding companies and media firms who refuse to pay any tax on the vast profits they make in any of the countries where they make these profits. That seems a popular approach at the moment, often with the people who are getting fucked over by the arrangement.


So although they are getting fucked off /over by the arrangement, those people support it because they believe the Nation's Money (and therefore it's power and security) is safest in the hands of the others that you listed above) then in their own hands?


They assume that the rich deserve what they have.
It's called the 'just world fallacy'.

It also explains why they tend to be racists, sexists, bigots and victim-blamers-- they also tend to believe that if oppressed groups didn't deserve their oppression, they wouldn't be oppressed in the first place.

http://www.springhole.net/logical-fallacies/just-world-fallacy.htm


I see. Do you really think most people think like that anymore?

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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 11:50:51 AM   
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Also, anyone who suggests that the rich don't deserve everything they have is lazy, spoiled, entitled and a thief.

I don't mean specific wealthy people here, I mean 'the rich' as an abstraction that only really exists in the most superficial sense.
It's fair to say this, because this is how a lot of RWNJs/Trump voters see the world.

This narrative does a lot to actively prevent society from becoming better.

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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 2:24:29 PM   
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Without making any assumptions, I'm asking for a clarification of what you mean by "[t]he Nation's Money."


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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 4:20:49 PM   
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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 4:58:16 PM   
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Your OP title asks about "most safe," but your options above have nothing to do with question of safety but rather best utilization.

You are confused.

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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 5:09:50 PM   
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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 5:15:19 PM   
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Your OP title asks about "most safe," but your options above have nothing to do with question of safety but rather best utilization.

You are confused.



Ok... best utilization to maintain the safety & security of thse United States

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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 5:17:01 PM   
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As evenly distributed as possible to give everyone equal opportunities and to ensure that nobody has an unfair advantage.

Or concentrated into the hands of a small number of holding companies and media firms who refuse to pay any tax on the vast profits they make in any of the countries where they make these profits. That seems a popular approach at the moment, often with the people who are getting fucked over by the arrangement.


So although they are getting fucked off /over by the arrangement, those people support it because they believe the Nation's Money (and therefore it's power and security) is safest in the hands of the others that you listed above) then in their own hands?

You tell me: you're the one asking leading questions in the hope of getting a specific answer.

No... that was a yes/no question.

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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 5:23:25 PM   
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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 5:41:23 PM   
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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 6:15:25 PM   
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safety from what?
security against what?



Now that's the question.

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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 6:21:51 PM   
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in the hands of the people who earned it with increasingly less given to the government.


"in the hands of those who earned it" would mean taking a lot of $20-90 million bonuses from those who didn't earn it and using that to pay lower level workers according to their actual productivity value, so I'm all in favor of that.

"with increasingly less given to the government"

You got that one backwards, actually.

"with the government giving increasingly less to oil companies (including wars to sustain them), and agro-chem, and banks" being the better description of reality, and better solution if implemented..


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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 6:48:20 PM   
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safety from what?
security against what?



Now that's the question.


why didnt you ask that Instead???
are you going to clarify? or just play with shadows?

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RE: The Nation's Money is most safe in the hands of Whom? - 1/2/2018 6:52:17 PM   
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safety from what?
security against what?



Now that's the question.


why didnt you ask that Instead???
are you going to clarify? or just play with shadows?



Safety and security from those who want to seize control of everything.

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