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FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investigations - 1/2/2018 7:23:24 PM   
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Opinion | OP-ED CONTRIBUTORS
The Republicans’ Fake Investigations
By GLENN R. SIMPSON and PETER FRITSCH JAN. 2, 2018

Credit Harry Campbell
A generation ago, Republicans sought to protect President Richard Nixon by urging the Senate Watergate committee to look at supposed wrongdoing by Democrats in previous elections. The committee chairman, Sam Ervin, a Democrat, said that would be “as foolish as the man who went bear hunting and stopped to chase rabbits.”

Today, amid a growing criminal inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, congressional Republicans are again chasing rabbits. We know because we’re their favorite quarry.

In the year since the publication of the so-called Steele dossier — the collection of intelligence reports we commissioned about Donald Trump’s ties to Russia — the president has repeatedly attacked us on Twitter. His allies in Congress have dug through our bank records and sought to tarnish our firm to punish us for highlighting his links to Russia. Conservative news outlets and even our former employer, The Wall Street Journal, have spun a succession of mendacious conspiracy theories about our motives and backers.

We are happy to correct the record. In fact, we already have.

Three congressional committees have heard over 21 hours of testimony from our firm, Fusion GPS. In those sessions, we toppled the far right’s conspiracy theories and explained how The Washington Free Beacon and the Clinton campaign — the Republican and Democratic funders of our Trump research — separately came to hire us in the first place.

We walked investigators through our yearlong effort to decipher Mr. Trump’s complex business past, of which the Steele dossier is but one chapter. And we handed over our relevant bank records — while drawing the line at a fishing expedition for the records of companies we work for that have nothing to do with the Trump case.

Continue reading the main story
Republicans have refused to release full transcripts of our firm’s testimony, even as they selectively leak details to media outlets on the far right. It’s time to share what our company told investigators.

We don’t believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.’s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, including one inside the Trump camp.

The intelligence committees have known for months that credible allegations of collusion between the Trump camp and Russia were pouring in from independent sources during the campaign. Yet lawmakers in the thrall of the president continue to wage a cynical campaign to portray us as the unwitting victims of Kremlin disinformation.

We suggested investigators look into the bank records of Deutsche Bank and others that were funding Mr. Trump’s businesses. Congress appears uninterested in that tip: Reportedly, ours are the only bank records the House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed.

We told Congress that from Manhattan to Sunny Isles Beach, Fla., and from Toronto to Panama, we found widespread evidence that Mr. Trump and his organization had worked with a wide array of dubious Russians in arrangements that often raised questions about money laundering. Likewise, those deals don’t seem to interest Congress.

We explained how, from our past journalistic work in Europe, we were deeply familiar with the political operative Paul Manafort’s coziness with Moscow and his financial ties to Russian oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin.

Finally, we debunked the biggest canard being pushed by the president’s men — the notion that we somehow knew of the June 9, 2016, meeting in Trump Tower between some Russians and the Trump brain trust. We first learned of that meeting from news reports last year — and the committees know it. They also know that these Russians were unaware of the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s work for us and were not sources for his reports.

Yes, we hired Mr. Steele, a highly respected Russia expert. But we did so without informing him whom we were working for and gave him no specific marching orders beyond this basic question: Why did Mr. Trump repeatedly seek to do deals in a notoriously corrupt police state that most serious investors shun?

What came back shocked us. Mr. Steele’s sources in Russia (who were not paid) reported on an extensive — and now confirmed — effort by the Kremlin to help elect Mr. Trump president. Mr. Steele saw this as a crime in progress and decided he needed to report it to the F.B.I.

We did not discuss that decision with our clients, or anyone else. Instead, we deferred to Mr. Steele, a trusted friend and intelligence professional with a long history of working with law enforcement. We did not speak to the F.B.I. and haven’t since.

After the election, Mr. Steele decided to share his intelligence with Senator John McCain via an emissary. We helped him do that. The goal was to alert the United States national security community to an attack on our country by a hostile foreign power. We did not, however, share the dossier with BuzzFeed, which to our dismay published it last January.

We’re extremely proud of our work to highlight Mr. Trump’s Russia ties. To have done so is our right under the First Amendment.

It is time to stop chasing rabbits. The public still has much to learn about a man with the most troubling business past of any United States president. Congress should release transcripts of our firm’s testimony, so that the American people can learn the truth about our work and most important, what happened to our democracy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/republicans-investigation-fusion-gps.html

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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 12:38:30 AM   
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Opinion | OP-ED CONTRIBUTORS
The Republicans’ Fake Investigations
By GLENN R. SIMPSON and PETER FRITSCH JAN. 2, 2018

Credit Harry Campbell
A generation ago, Republicans sought to protect President Richard Nixon by urging the Senate Watergate committee to look at supposed wrongdoing by Democrats in previous elections. The committee chairman, Sam Ervin, a Democrat, said that would be “as foolish as the man who went bear hunting and stopped to chase rabbits.”

Today, amid a growing criminal inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 election, congressional Republicans are again chasing rabbits. We know because we’re their favorite quarry.

In the year since the publication of the so-called Steele dossier — the collection of intelligence reports we commissioned about Donald Trump’s ties to Russia — the president has repeatedly attacked us on Twitter. His allies in Congress have dug through our bank records and sought to tarnish our firm to punish us for highlighting his links to Russia. Conservative news outlets and even our former employer, The Wall Street Journal, have spun a succession of mendacious conspiracy theories about our motives and backers.

We are happy to correct the record. In fact, we already have.

Three congressional committees have heard over 21 hours of testimony from our firm, Fusion GPS. In those sessions, we toppled the far right’s conspiracy theories and explained how The Washington Free Beacon and the Clinton campaign — the Republican and Democratic funders of our Trump research — separately came to hire us in the first place.

We walked investigators through our yearlong effort to decipher Mr. Trump’s complex business past, of which the Steele dossier is but one chapter. And we handed over our relevant bank records — while drawing the line at a fishing expedition for the records of companies we work for that have nothing to do with the Trump case.

Continue reading the main story
Republicans have refused to release full transcripts of our firm’s testimony, even as they selectively leak details to media outlets on the far right. It’s time to share what our company told investigators.

We don’t believe the Steele dossier was the trigger for the F.B.I.’s investigation into Russian meddling. As we told the Senate Judiciary Committee in August, our sources said the dossier was taken so seriously because it corroborated reports the bureau had received from other sources, including one inside the Trump camp.

The intelligence committees have known for months that credible allegations of collusion between the Trump camp and Russia were pouring in from independent sources during the campaign. Yet lawmakers in the thrall of the president continue to wage a cynical campaign to portray us as the unwitting victims of Kremlin disinformation.

We suggested investigators look into the bank records of Deutsche Bank and others that were funding Mr. Trump’s businesses. Congress appears uninterested in that tip: Reportedly, ours are the only bank records the House Intelligence Committee has subpoenaed.

We told Congress that from Manhattan to Sunny Isles Beach, Fla., and from Toronto to Panama, we found widespread evidence that Mr. Trump and his organization had worked with a wide array of dubious Russians in arrangements that often raised questions about money laundering. Likewise, those deals don’t seem to interest Congress.

We explained how, from our past journalistic work in Europe, we were deeply familiar with the political operative Paul Manafort’s coziness with Moscow and his financial ties to Russian oligarchs close to Vladimir Putin.

Finally, we debunked the biggest canard being pushed by the president’s men — the notion that we somehow knew of the June 9, 2016, meeting in Trump Tower between some Russians and the Trump brain trust. We first learned of that meeting from news reports last year — and the committees know it. They also know that these Russians were unaware of the former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s work for us and were not sources for his reports.

Yes, we hired Mr. Steele, a highly respected Russia expert. But we did so without informing him whom we were working for and gave him no specific marching orders beyond this basic question: Why did Mr. Trump repeatedly seek to do deals in a notoriously corrupt police state that most serious investors shun?

What came back shocked us. Mr. Steele’s sources in Russia (who were not paid) reported on an extensive — and now confirmed — effort by the Kremlin to help elect Mr. Trump president. Mr. Steele saw this as a crime in progress and decided he needed to report it to the F.B.I.

We did not discuss that decision with our clients, or anyone else. Instead, we deferred to Mr. Steele, a trusted friend and intelligence professional with a long history of working with law enforcement. We did not speak to the F.B.I. and haven’t since.

After the election, Mr. Steele decided to share his intelligence with Senator John McCain via an emissary. We helped him do that. The goal was to alert the United States national security community to an attack on our country by a hostile foreign power. We did not, however, share the dossier with BuzzFeed, which to our dismay published it last January.

We’re extremely proud of our work to highlight Mr. Trump’s Russia ties. To have done so is our right under the First Amendment.

It is time to stop chasing rabbits. The public still has much to learn about a man with the most troubling business past of any United States president. Congress should release transcripts of our firm’s testimony, so that the American people can learn the truth about our work and most important, what happened to our democracy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/02/opinion/republicans-investigation-fusion-gps.html



I was going to post this, but got sidetracked with some work issues.

The bigger story is: The Republicans have been trying to keep this under wraps while SELECTIVELY leaking out of context sections to the press (NICE). Fusion GPS has asked that the transcript would be released. Our friend (and former champion of the individual mandate before Obama embraced it) Chuck Grassley said they wanted to release it but it had to be cleared by Fusion GPS legal team first. This was a lie at that time, as Fusion GPS had already REQUESTED the transcript to be released.

Grassley said it would be released soon. Fusion GPS called bullshit and released a summary in their Op-Ed.


Key points:

Steele was hired with NO partisan instructions. The only instruction was to find out "Why is Trump doing so business in Russia" with zero information as to who was paying for it.

No informants were paid.

The dossier corroborated what they ALREADY knew.

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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 4:59:16 AM   
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You should send this to Robert Mueller. It might be just what he needs.

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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 5:02:11 AM   
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I doubt mueller is ignorant of it.
The public wouldnt have been, if the repubs had released the info, like Grassley said they would.
But Im sure there will be a move to deny all that and make it into a big conspiracy.


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They were proud to take Hillary's money, conspire with her and the Russians to change the outcome of the election...

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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 5:22:21 AM   
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Im sure you can point to the committee member that has stated that.


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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 5:28:20 AM   
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Im sure you can point to the committee member that has stated that.




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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 5:59:56 AM   
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I was going to post this, but got sidetracked with some work issues.

The bigger story is: The Republicans have been trying to keep this under wraps while SELECTIVELY leaking out of context sections to the press (NICE). Fusion GPS has asked that the transcript would be released. Our friend (and former champion of the individual mandate before Obama embraced it) Chuck Grassley said they wanted to release it but it had to be cleared by Fusion GPS legal team first. This was a lie at that time, as Fusion GPS had already REQUESTED the transcript to be released.

Grassley said it would be released soon. Fusion GPS called bullshit and released a summary in their Op-Ed.


Key points:

Steele was hired with NO partisan instructions. The only instruction was to find out "Why is Trump doing so business in Russia" with zero information as to who was paying for it.

No informants were paid.

The dossier corroborated what they ALREADY knew.


You mean, why was a billionaire doing business with foreigners all over the fucking planet...

To leftists, everything political opponents do is criminal, because it is a crime to oppose them in their minds. There are no rules, no rights, there is no presumption of innocence... Hillary, the Democrat party, Obama's justice department, all decided to "investigate" someone who was running against them because he had business dealings on foreign shores?

And you are such a stupid freakish ideologue that you fall in line with that banana republic goose stepping in knee-jerk fashion

You can see absolutely nothing wrong with using all of the power of government to attack one's political enemies in this manner

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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 7:13:58 AM   
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They were proud to take Hillary's money, conspire with her and the Russians to change the outcome of the election...



They have been proud to do that, but that is clearly not what happened here. Sorry.

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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 7:16:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX


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ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

I was going to post this, but got sidetracked with some work issues.

The bigger story is: The Republicans have been trying to keep this under wraps while SELECTIVELY leaking out of context sections to the press (NICE). Fusion GPS has asked that the transcript would be released. Our friend (and former champion of the individual mandate before Obama embraced it) Chuck Grassley said they wanted to release it but it had to be cleared by Fusion GPS legal team first. This was a lie at that time, as Fusion GPS had already REQUESTED the transcript to be released.

Grassley said it would be released soon. Fusion GPS called bullshit and released a summary in their Op-Ed.


Key points:

Steele was hired with NO partisan instructions. The only instruction was to find out "Why is Trump doing so business in Russia" with zero information as to who was paying for it.

No informants were paid.

The dossier corroborated what they ALREADY knew.


You mean, why was a billionaire doing business with foreigners all over the fucking planet...

To leftists, everything political opponents do is criminal, because it is a crime to oppose them in their minds. There are no rules, no rights, there is no presumption of innocence... Hillary, the Democrat party, Obama's justice department, all decided to "investigate" someone who was running against them because he had business dealings on foreign shores?

And you are such a stupid freakish ideologue that you fall in line with that banana republic goose stepping in knee-jerk fashion

You can see absolutely nothing wrong with using all of the power of government to attack one's political enemies in this manner



I think you missed the point. There was no assumption of wrongdoing at all. They wanted to know why Trump was focused on Russia, while all other billionaires were staying away from Russia.

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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 7:48:39 PM   
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The reason people do business in Russia is that it is a huge friggin' market.
I just did some business with Russia selling some of my surplus tech to a guy in St. Petersburg last week? Big Whoop... who cares!

Until someone comes up with something other than the admitted "nothingburger" that was the Trump/Russia collusion story that was debunked months ago; I'm not worrying about things irrelevant to my life or the governance of the country.

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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 8:00:46 PM   
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I think you missed the point. There was no assumption of wrongdoing at all. They wanted to know why Trump was focused on Russia, while all other billionaires were staying away from Russia.


You're making shit up again.

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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 8:12:32 PM   
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quote:

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I think you missed the point. There was no assumption of wrongdoing at all. They wanted to know why Trump was focused on Russia, while all other billionaires were staying away from Russia.


You're making shit up again.



I am???

From Lucy's link...

Yes, we hired Mr. Steele, a highly respected Russia expert. But we did so without informing him whom we were working for and gave him no specific marching orders beyond this basic question: Why did Mr. Trump repeatedly seek to do deals in a notoriously corrupt police state that most serious investors shun?

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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 9:49:24 PM   
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I was going to post this, but got sidetracked with some work issues.

The bigger story is: The Republicans have been trying to keep this under wraps while SELECTIVELY leaking out of context sections to the press (NICE). Fusion GPS has asked that the transcript would be released. Our friend (and former champion of the individual mandate before Obama embraced it) Chuck Grassley said they wanted to release it but it had to be cleared by Fusion GPS legal team first. This was a lie at that time, as Fusion GPS had already REQUESTED the transcript to be released.

Grassley said it would be released soon. Fusion GPS called bullshit and released a summary in their Op-Ed.


Key points:

Steele was hired with NO partisan instructions. The only instruction was to find out "Why is Trump doing so business in Russia" with zero information as to who was paying for it.

No informants were paid.

The dossier corroborated what they ALREADY knew.


You mean, why was a billionaire doing business with foreigners all over the fucking planet...

To leftists, everything political opponents do is criminal, because it is a crime to oppose them in their minds. There are no rules, no rights, there is no presumption of innocence... Hillary, the Democrat party, Obama's justice department, all decided to "investigate" someone who was running against them because he had business dealings on foreign shores?

And you are such a stupid freakish ideologue that you fall in line with that banana republic goose stepping in knee-jerk fashion

You can see absolutely nothing wrong with using all of the power of government to attack one's political enemies in this manner

Actually, it is the rightist who make everything political, it being so hard to get votes for their candidates without spending money on fabrications let alone enough to vote...for their policies.

This wasn't just any billionaire doing foreign business, this was the repub nominee for POTUS and it's about financing Trump by laundering oligarch's dirty cash and then being open to political extortion.

For example: why were US Attys. who had successfully convicted Russians who came to the US to clean their dirty cash...fired ?

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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/3/2018 11:11:08 PM   
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The question is not so much why Trump was doing business in Russia, but who.

But then companies that are owned by Dems have done business with some shady individuals as well, and in countries that are not the best international citizens.

But, this is not so much as to business but was there any collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government to influence the election.

If there was, and President Trump knew nothing about it, then he is clear and the ones that did should go to jail, but, and this is the important part, there is nothing in the Constitution that provides for declaring an election null and void.

Even if their was, neither him or the Stand by the cheating husband bitch would be the one sitting in the oval office.

So, hypothetically speaking, say there is proof of Russia tampering in the election and Trump knew about it and helped orchestrate it, if so, what law applies? Election Fraud?

IF he knew and is impeached, it would stand to reason Pence knew as well, so he would be just as guilty, leaving the speaker of the house the next in line.

If he did not know anything, what the hell is he guilty of?

If any of his business practices involved anything illegal prior to his taking the oath of office, he would have to be removed from office before he could be prosecuted, and Pence could pardon his ass 20 minutes later.

So, again, what can be done?

And for the record, if you think that foreign governments either friendly or not, do not try in some fashion to influence an election in the states, think again. It is not that hard with the political contribution laws we have, all they would have to do is use a foreign owned American based business to make the donations, run the ads, or whatever.

It is a known fact the CIA does it, so why are we crying foul now?

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if ive already said this, its worth repeating...the comrades crying wolf here feels so much less like any legitimate concern about laws being broken and so much more about they don't like Donald trump being president.

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one could say the same regarding the hillary probed thread and your "crying wolf" posts. That went to over 100 pages...stop whinging because its gonna be a long year.
It has everything to do with laws being broken
but it has to do with a lot more than that.
a LOT more.


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if ive already said this, its worth repeating...the comrades crying wolf here feels so much less like any legitimate concern about laws being broken and so much more about they don't like Donald trump being president.



I dont like Donald Trump as president.

I would not have liked the uber bitch Hilary as president.

And to be honest, with all the bullshit, there is not a politician in this country I would vote for to be in charge of shoveling shit after a circus parade.

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That's why the light entertainers are planning to walk in and take over the nominations in future.
(I wonder if Rupaul could be coerced into standing in 2020?)

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RE: FusionGPS speaks out...The Republicans Fake Investi... - 1/5/2018 6:39:23 AM   
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FR

Federal Judge Obliterates Fusion GPS’ Attempt To Hide Info From Investigators

In Fusion GPS' vague telling, they've been nothing but forthright with congressional investigative committees, which came as news to those committees.

On Tuesday, Fusion GPS founders Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritschjan wrote an op-ed for The New York Times. In it, they claimed they and their opposition research firm were nothing but an open book and were seeking greater transparency from three congressional committees who have been digging into the probe of Russian election meddling.

All three committees have sought information from Fusion GPS and its principals, who were hired by Hillary Clinton and the Democratic National Committee to do opposition research. That funding paid for the salacious and still-unsubstantiated dossier alleging treasonous collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. In Fusion GPS’ vague telling, they’ve been nothing but forthright with the committees, which came as news to those committees.


A spokesman for Sen. Chuck Grassley of the Senate Judiciary Committee reminded Fusion GPS that the firm and its principals routinely fought the committee. Spokesman Taylor Foy said, “Senator Grassley provided Fusion GPS an opportunity for transparency six months ago when he invited the firm to publicly testify at an open committee hearing. Mr. Simpson declined. When faced with a subpoena from the Chairman and Ranking Member, Mr. Simpson refused to provide public testimony, using his Fifth Amendment right against self-incrimination to negotiate for a closed-door interview. Despite his public statements, Mr. Simpson and his attorney demanded during the interview that the transcript be kept confidential. Mr. Simpson has refused to answer dozens of questions voluntarily, and has failed to provide the Committee with documents and responses to follow-up questions after the interview.”

On the other side of the Hill, it’s also been far from the picture of compliance and transparency that Fusion GPS claimed in its op-ed. The House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence has spent much of the previous year fighting Fusion for access to basic records tied to the investigation.

On Thursday, a U.S. District Judge denied Fusion GPS’s effort to keep the House committee from bank records it sought. Judge Richard Leon, who took over the case after the previous judge Tanya Chutkan recused herself midway over unspecified conflicts, smacked down all four grounds by which Fusion GPS tried to block the congressional subpoena. That subpoena included requests for records of payments from Fusion GPS to journalists who have covered the Russian dossier story.

Fusion said the request for records lacked a valid legislative purpose, were overbroad and irrelevant, violated First Amendment rights to speech and association, and violated financial privacy laws. The judge disagreed on each count.

Lacked A Valid Legislative Purpose

Fusion tried to argue that House Intel Chairman Devin Nunes (R-CA) lacked the authority to issue the subpoena, in part because they erroneously believed he had recused himself from the Russia probe. Judge Leon cited the U.S. Constitution, rules of the House of Representatives, and the public record to throw water on the argument. He said that at no time did Nunes “recuse” himself from the Russia investigation, though he did allow other committee members to take charge of it while he resolved his ethics investigation.

“[H]e retained the power to issue the Subpoena at issues in this case… Indeed the Subpoena would be invalid without Chairman Nunes’s signature unless the full Committee authorized another member to sign it, which it did not,” Leon wrote.

Incidentally, Nunes was cleared of ethics violations in early December. He had been accused of sharing classified information when he revealed that Obama administration officials had collected and unmasked much information about Trump campaign officials and spread it around. The committee found that he had not violated House rules or any other standard of conduct.

Overbroad and Irrelevant

Fusion then claimed that none of the law firms about which the committee sought information contracted to work on Russia or Donald Trump. It also said that records of transactions between Fusion and certain media companies and journalists were “not pertinent.”


Judge Leon noted, given the balance of powers in the U.S. Constitution, courts are not to determine that legislative records requests aren’t proper unless they’re obviously irrelevant. Since the committee “has intelligence suggesting that Fusion directed [researcher Christopher] Steele to meet with at least five major media outlets to discuss his work on the Trump Dossier,” it’s reasonable to pursue records related to “various media companies and journalists to determine whether they, too, had involvement with the Trump Dossier or with Russian active measures directed at the 2016 Presidential election,” he wrote.

Leon noted that Fusion had multiple ties to Russia and the Russia investigation. Mark Elias, an attorney with Perkins Coie who represented both the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, retained Fusion for Russian opposition research. But Baker Hostetler had hired Fusion for work on behalf of Prevezon Holdings, a Russian state-owned company. In fact, this second law firm relationship led to accusations that Fusion GPS was acting as an unregistered foreign agent on behalf of Russia.

Leon also noted that it was unwise to allow the subject of an investigation to determine what may be investigated, particularly since part of the committee’s work is classified and Fusion would not know the complete justification for document requests.

First Amendment

Fusion GPS also tried to argue that turning over the records would hamper their First Amendment rights to engage in free political speech, free political activity, and for good measure they added free association. Judge Leon noted they simply failed to even try to make their case. Even if they had tried, while the work they perform may be highly political, the business relationships they form are not. He said, “[T]he First Amendment is not a secrecy pact!”


Judge Leon also dismissed Fusion’s concerns that the committee would not keep the information private. Fusion claimed that the committee had leaked the identity of their bank to the media, but provided no evidence to support those allegations. The judge said he needed evidence of wrongdoing by the committee, adding, “[t]his is especially true in light of the fact that Fusion itself has played a role in publicizing aspects of this litigation and the Committee’s investigation.”

Financial Privacy

Finally, Fusion tried to argue that federal financial privacy laws protected the records, but since Fusion is a limited liability company and not a partnership or an individual, they are not so protected, the judge ruled.

Link to the whole ruling here



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