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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/12/2018 6:46:16 PM   
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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/12/2018 6:47:51 PM   
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his own colour
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You know this is not true.

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/12/2018 6:49:09 PM   
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Ya know, "All Lives Matter" refers to only American citizens in the context of USA right?

It does not extend to other countries, as the day Trump became President, he has already decided to do more for his own country and contribute less to other countries that is not his problem when his own country is still a mess and needs fixing.

No greta, there are lots of people, including American citizens, who believe that all lives matter, not just American citizens.

Don't speak for us.

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/12/2018 7:00:23 PM   
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his own colour
not country

You know this is not true.


Of course you would say that, you hold his views.
In everything.
It doesnt make it fact.
this is a nasty distraction that has already backfired on him.
And not just from the left.
now im going to stop talking to you, because there is enough bs on the board without including your delusional ignorance.


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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/12/2018 7:03:04 PM   
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Even Republicans are calling him out for this, saying he is not fit to lead. This is not just a leftists thing.

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/12/2018 7:07:13 PM   
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Ya know, "All Lives Matter" refers to only American citizens in the context of USA right?

It does not extend to other countries, as the day Trump became President, he has already decided to do more for his own country and contribute less to other countries that is not his problem when his own country is still a mess and needs fixing.

No greta, there are lots of people, including American citizens, who believe that all lives matter, not just American citizens.

Don't speak for us.

To clarify, I was not suggesting that people who believe "all lives matter" are bigots...just certain ignorant white christian bigots. Those who use "all lives matter" as a reason to demean BLM into a "terrorist, brown people bad people".
I apologise to any american who feels this is a slight to them. I am only aiming it at trumper bigots.
And why i posted it in response to bounty.




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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/12/2018 7:17:34 PM   
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Even Republicans are calling him out for this, saying he is not fit to lead. This is not just a leftists thing.

Ive been listening to fox/msnbc/rush/ today, watching the news, the list is getting longer
The consensus is that the word "shithole" is not the problem
The white house said it was for his base,
of course it was

It wont push his bad news into a corner, it wont hide the book, it wont hide the messes hes making verbally and mentally, it wont hide the investigations.
I fully expect it to get worse. Daca isnt signed yet, CHIP hasnt been discussed yet, he declined to end iran sanctions...Bannon, his upcoming talk with chat with Mueller.
Dick Durbin was interesting, so was Lindsey, but that isnt shocking.
His visit to london tweet is another distraction...from the truth, and making it a tweet about himself instead of issues.
Can anyone make head or tail of the latest on DACA??? where is his head?
If the dems dont win in 2018 i will give up on being a politics fan.


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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/12/2018 7:27:37 PM   
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It's funny, I was hanging out with someone from South Africa, who have spend most of his growing up years in Namibia, his neighbouring African country. And I asked him are Africans really offended with Trump saying Africa is a shithole? And he said no, it is a shithole. And the truth is, everyone in Africa is like too busy trying to just to survive to give a shit about what Trump says at all or bother at all.

So this is all just left media hysteria over nothing.

He has also spent time living in Russia and Ukraine and I asked him between his country of birth and those countries, which he prefers. He said hands down without a doubt, he would move to Ukraine without a doubt, as it's much better than Africa.

So the 54 African countries demanding an apology have all been made up by the media?

Yeah, you aren't good speaking for them, either.

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/12/2018 7:38:10 PM   
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Noooooooo apparently they are all leftists....and moooselambs, and live in huts and have aids, just like the ooze thinks...
its all a media circus

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/13/2018 2:52:31 AM   
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It seems that the views of Greta's friend are not exactly representative of African responses to Trump's latest gaffe. The Guardian reports:

"Donald Trump has been branded a shocking and shameful racist after it was credibly reported he had described African nations, as well as Haiti and El Salvador as “shitholes” and questioned why so many of their citizens had ever been permitted to enter America.

US diplomats around the world were summoned for formal reproach, amid global shock that such crude remarks could ever be made in a semi-public meeting by the president of America.

In a strongly-worded statement, the UN said it was impossible to describe his remarks as anything other than racist, while the Vatican decried Trump’s words as “particularly harsh and offensive”.

The 55-nation African Union said the remarks were “clearly racist”.

Trump initially allowed reported accounts of his comments to go unchallenged, but went into damage limitation mode on Friday, insisting he had not used derogatory words – but admitting that the language he had used at a meeting with Senators on immigration was “tough”.

But the democratic senator Dick Durbin – who was present at the meeting with Trump on Thursday – insisted that the reports were entirely accurate. “Shithole was the exact word used once not twice but repeatedly,” Durbin said, adding that the word was specifically used in the context of African countries.

The UN human rights spokesman, Rupert Colville, told a Geneva news briefing: “There is no other word one can use but racist. You cannot dismiss entire countries and continents as ‘shitholes’, whose entire populations, who are not white, are therefore not welcome.”

Salvador Sánchez, the president of El Salvador, said Trump’s words had “struck at the dignity of Salvadorans”.

“El Salvador formally protests and energetically rejects this kind of comment,” Sánchez wrote on Twitter.

US diplomats and the US embassy in San Salvador sought to assure those in El Salvador of their respect for the country. Jean Manes, the US envoy to El Salvador, tweeted in Spanish: “I have had the privilege to travel around this beautiful country and meet thousands of Salvadorans. It is an honour to live and work here. We remain 100% committed.”

Robin Diallo, the US chargé d’affaires to Haiti, was summoned to meet the Haitian president, Jovenel Moïse, to discuss the remarks. The former Haitian president Laurent Lamothe expressed his dismay, saying Trump had shown “a lack of respect and ignorance”.

Across Africa there was diplomatic fury. Botswana’s government called Trump’s comment “reprehensible and racist” and said the US ambassador had been summoned to clarify whether the nation was regarded as a “shithole” country after years of cordial relations. Uganda’s state minister for international relations, Henry Okello Oryem, called the remarks “unfortunate and regrettable”.

The African Union said it was alarmed by Trump’s language. “Given the historical reality of how many Africans arrived in the United States as slaves, this statement flies in the face of all accepted behaviour and practice,” its spokeswoman Ebba Kalondo told Associated Press.

Jessie Duarte, the deputy secretary general of South Africa’s ruling ANC, said: “Ours is not a shithole country; neither is Haiti or any other country in distress. It’s not as if the United States doesn’t have problems. There is unemployment in the US, there are people who don’t have healthcare services.”

The leader of South Africa’s main opposition party, Mmusi Maimane, described the comments as “abhorrent”. He tweeted of Trump:
The comments referred to here are abhorrent. He confirms a patronizing view of Africa and promotes a racist agenda. Africa/US relations will take strain from this, with a leader who has failed to reconcile humanity. The hatred of Obama’s roots now extends to an entire continent https://twitter.com/cnn/status/951751986071957505

The US state department tried to pour water on the flames, issuing a tweet from its Bureau of African Affairs saying that “the United States will continue to robustly, enthusiastically and forcefully engage in #Africa, promoting this vital relationship”.

Mexico’s former president, Vicente Fox, who has been an outspoken critic of Trump, said in a colourful tweet that “America’s greatness was built on diversity”. He added Trump’s mouth was “the foulest shithole in the world. With what authority do you announce who is welcome in America and who is not? America’s greatness is based on diversity, or have you forgotten your migration background, Donald?”

David Miliband, the president of the International Rescue Committee, said Trump’s comments were leading a “race to the bottom on refugees”.

Trump has made few references to Africa since his election, and many senior Africa-focused posts in his administration remain unfilled.

In September, he appeared to invent a new country called Nambia while addressing African leaders in Washington. Trump also told them: “I have so many friends going to your countries, trying to get rich. It has a tremendous business potential.”

The US government’s Africa Media Hub made an effort to limit the diplomatic damage of the president’s words.

Without directly referring to Trump’s statement, a tweet said the “US remains committed to working together w/Africans to realize the promise of a more peaceful, more productive, more prosperous 21st century Africa. US deeply respects the people of #Africa & values its partnerships with them.”

Boniface Mwangi, a well-known social activist in Kenya tweeted:

Africa isn’t a shithole. It’s the most beautiful continent in the world. Beautiful,hardworking people. We have diamonds, gold, iron, cobalt, uranium, copper, bauxite, silver, petroleum, cocoa, coffee, tea etc. Sadly we have #shithole leaders like Trump shitting on us everyday. pic.twitter.com/Vv4Wgtq4Pk

Standing at a coffee stall outside an office block in Rosebank, a commercial and business neighbourhood in central Johannesburg, Blessing Dlamini, a 45-year-old administrative assistant, said Trump’s words came as “no surprise”.

“He has shown the world he is a racist. We should just block him from our thoughts,” Dlamini said.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/12/unkind-divisive-elitist-international-outcry-over-trumps-shithole-countries-remark

The good thing, as far as the rest of the world is concerned, is that there is far less likelihood of more foreign trips by Trump. What country is going to invite a foul mouthed arrogant racist and liar for a State visit? Who in their right minds would roll out the red carpet for such a repulsive sleazy serial sexual assailant?

How long are Americans going to tolerate this vile monstrous creature ruining their good name and reputation as well as trashing all the good values the world associates with the US?

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/13/2018 3:44:13 AM   
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I'm reveling in it

1. He changed the discussion in the exact way it needed to be changed. Why are we flooding America with the worst of the worst? WTF is the matter with us. America first, all the way baby!!!

2. I love how leftists have gone insane some more because someone said a bad word - while there is no pig sty they have not wallowed in (as if no one has noticed that they've gone insane before now)


You absolute fucking moron.

Nobody is talking about 'flooding America' with anything.
There is no discussion about immigrants happening.

Everybody is, as usual, talking about how much of a pig the President is and how he is hurting America's international reputation.
Nobody except lowly, ignorant cretins like you respect or admire this piece of shit in any way.

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/13/2018 3:53:31 AM   
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I'm reveling in it

1. He changed the discussion in the exact way it needed to be changed. Why are we flooding America with the worst of the worst? WTF is the matter with us. America first, all the way baby!!!

2. I love how leftists have gone insane some more because someone said a bad word - while there is no pig sty they have not wallowed in (as if no one has noticed that they've gone insane before now)


You absolute fucking moron.

Nobody is talking about 'flooding America' with anything.
There is no discussion about immigrants happening.

Everybody is, as usual, talking about how much of a pig the President is and how he is hurting America's international reputation.
Nobody except lowly, ignorant cretins like you respect or admire this piece of shit in any way.


No doubt Mencken had Bosco and his ilk in mind when he came up with this memorable prediction:
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” — H. L. Mencken
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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/13/2018 4:10:45 AM   
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Boscox has said it 117 times.



Practically every time in reference to you howlers posting your 'faggot" memes or otherwise making the suggestion that those who disagree with the various leftist mantras has to be gay

Especially your banned daddy felchgoblintroll

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/13/2018 4:18:01 AM   
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So the 54 African countries demanding an apology have all been made up by the media?

Yeah, you aren't good speaking for them, either.


You stumbled over a good point.

Not "made up by the media" in the way you mean, but by broadcasting, distorting and exaggerating what was ALLEGEDLY said in a private conversation the leftist media has created worldwide outrage, and I am sure they are quite proud of themselves

Remember, only certain leftists claim that was said. No one else heard it, and the White House denies it.

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/13/2018 4:20:09 AM   
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...yet leftist trash tries to claim they don't hate whites and Christians...

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/13/2018 4:23:28 AM   
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his own colour
not country

You know this is not true.


greta, remember---everyone on the right is a raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist.

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/13/2018 4:36:01 AM   
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From Breitbart.com:

What Ted Kennedy promised in 1965, when arguing for the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965:

quote:

“First, our cities will not be flooded with a million immigrants annually. Under the proposed bill, the present level of immigration remains substantially the same…

Secondly, the ethnic mix of this country will not be upset… Contrary to the charges in some quarters, [the bill] will not inundate America with immigrants from any one country or area, or the most populated and deprived nations of Africa and Asia…

In the final analysis, the ethnic pattern of immigration under the proposed measure is not expected to change as sharply as the critics seem to think… The bill will not flood our cities with immigrants. It will not upset the ethnic mix of our society. It will not relax the standards of admission. It will not cause American workers to lose their jobs.”


What the Democrats delivered:

Fifty years later, the Census bureau predicts that the foreign-born population is set to increase 85 percent by 2060, where Hispanics will see their number grow by the tens of millions and native-born whites are the only group expected to decline in both absolute numbers and fertility rates.

Fifty years later, the U.S. places no numerical limit on the immediate family members of aliens admitted into the country. Despite holding only five percent of the world’s population, the U.S. is the most popular destination in the world for immigrants, attracting 20 percent of all the world’s migrants.

Fifty years later, the U.S. allows some 11 to 20 million illegal aliens to squat on its territory while allowing over one million more each year to legally enter the country.

Fifty years later, the native-born population of whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Jews and all the rest suffer economic loss while the foreign-born see net job growth.

Fifty years later, Central American governments are propped up by $12.2 billion in remittances taken out of the American economy by foreign workers the U.S. refuses to tax or expel.

Fifty years later, Central American migrants, thousands of whom are indigenous Mayans who can’t write or speak even Spanish, storm the border in endless waves while federal agents fly them to nearly every state in the union without so much as a photo ID — while American citizens are fondled and scanned by the very same TSA agents.

Fifty years later, we have Rep. Luis Gutierrez threatening Americans in Spanish, vowing they they will be made to suffer “electoral punishment” for resisting a path to citizenship for illegal aliens, declaring his one loyalty is the not to the United States but to foreigners breaking immigration laws, and printing “Do Not Deport Me” cards for those same individuals.

Fifty years later, Americans are led by a president who illegally grants deportation stays for five million illegals that will allow them to get Social Security numbers (and therefore the ability to vote in U.S. elections) along with $35,000 per head in tax benefit freebies forcibly taken Americans who managed to hold onto their jobs, who joyfully predicts that a “President Rodriguez” will leave the borders wide open for future tsunamis of immigrants.

Fifty years later, American schools punish “racist” students who wear shirts depicting the American flag and taxpayer-funded colleges vote to ban the flag after angry illegal immigrants complain it “triggers” them.

Fifty years later, illegal alien Cinthya Garcia-Cisneros received no jail time after she slaughtered two Oregon children playing in a leaf pile by running them over, fleeing the scene, having her car taken to a car wash to scrub off the gore, and lying to police about her hit-and-run.

Fifty years later, illegal alien Ramiro Ajualip is charged with savagely raping and sodomizing a 10-year-old Alabama girl while her parents left her alone in the presence of their “family friend.”

Fifty years later, Vanessa Pham’s family carries on without their daughter, who died after the PCP-addled illegal alien Julio Blanco Garcia stabbed her more than a dozen times after she gave him and his toddler a ride to a hospital.

Fifty years later, American marathon runners walk on prosthetic limbs and suffer through countless painful surgeries after Muslim Chechen immigrants Tamerlane and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were granted asylum so they could plot against the country that bent over backwards to accommodate them.

Fifty years later in Boston, where English colonists sparked what would become the American Revolution, nearly half of all children have at least one foreign-born parent. “Learning English isn’t so easy” thanks to incredible demand for adult English-language classes, reports Boston.com. “Boston can’t benefit from its diversity if everyone can’t communicate.” Taxpayers are on the hook for $500,000 to teach just 200 students, yet total enrollment in these classes stands at 3,400 with another 4,000 immigrants on wait lists.

The costs Americans pay in lowered wages, strained social safety nets, their children’s blood, their declining quality of life, the chaos of sharing space with an ever-swelling criminal population aided and abetted by the nation’s elite, the berating Americans of every stripe endure when they dare ask their country merely be preserved — that’s the real legacy of Ted Kennedy.

That the ruling class celebrates his legacy indicates that they don’t plan to stop transforming America any time soon.

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/13/2018 5:17:19 AM   
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his own colour
not country

You know this is not true.


greta, remember---everyone on the right is a raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist.


Someday you should try to learn the difference between Trump and 'everyone on the right'.
It will make basic communication easier.

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/13/2018 5:18:56 AM   
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his own colour
not country

You know this is not true.


greta, remember---everyone on the right is a raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacist.


Someday you should try to learn the difference between Trump and 'everyone on the right'.
It will make basic communication easier.


If they could learn that, they'd have nothing to post about, would they?

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RE: Are the trumptooners denying the "shithole&quo... - 1/13/2018 6:44:05 AM   
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Just once I would like to see a discussion progress beyond straw man arguments and mind-boggling refusal to communicate.

And to answer the OP-- no, they are not denying it.
They absolutely love this sort of thing... not only do they agree with Trump, but they will gladly go a step further into even more racist talk

When I look at FOX news making sure they say that this is an 'alleged' comment, I keep wondering why they don't just admit that their target audience is fully onboard with Trump being a piece of shit bully. The network is already in the business of telling these idiots what they want to hear, so why not just go with it?

The decline of the US is already in full-swing and has been since the Bush era, so why not embrace it and stop pretending that basic decency is important?

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