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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/24/2023 6:24:21 AM   
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Corporate Media Is Hiding The Real Reason Disney Canceled Its New Florida Investment

Disney scrapped its plan to build a new office complex in Florida that would have cost the company nearly $1 billion. While the move is likely part of an overall cost-cutting plan, the corporate media framed the story as a virtuous rebuke of Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis’ policies.

In The New York Times’ coverage, reporter Brooks Barnes lamented the 2,000 jobs that the Lake Nona region of Florida was set to lose due to Disney’s decision. The project would have re-located mostly high-paid Disney employees from the current California office to a new campus 20 miles from Disney World.

However, Barnes spent the bulk of the article framing the move around Disney’s, as well as the Democrats’ preferred narrative. He blamed the move on DeSantis’ “scorched-earth attempt” to reign in Disney’s foray into left-wing gender politics. He discussed a memo, viewed by the Times, that blamed the “changing business conditions” in Florida for forcing Disney to reconsider further investment in the state. (RELATED: Disney’s Reputation Tanks After Polarizing Feud With DeSantis: POLL)

The memo did not mention DeSantis by name, but it didn’t have to. There was no need for Disney CEO (and prominent Biden supporter) Bob Iger to get his hands dirty and spark another public sparring match with DeSantis. Disney executives let the media do the dirty work for them. Two anonymous sources confirmed to the Times that Disney’s “battle with the governor and his allies in the Florida Legislature figured prominently into Disney’s decision to cancel the Lake Nona project.” That is all the corporate press needed to justify sparking the latest anti-DeSantis narrative.

The narrative is compellingly comprehensive – it hits DeSantis from both the right and left.

On the one hand, it provides another rung in the left-wing narrative that DeSantis is vehemently anti-gay. DeSantis’ “battle” with Disney is fostered purely out of hate for LGBTQ people, while one virtuous company had the will and the power to stand up for what’s right. (RELATED: Did Disney Just Troll The Royal Family?)

This pitch is laughably absurd to anyone not already steeped in the corporate media ecosystem, but it would be wrong to think it’s meant to change any minds. Rather, it serves to sow an intense hatred of DeSantis similar to how the left hates Trump. It will ensure that Democratic turnout is just as galvanized against DeSantis as it would be against Trump, if and when DeSantis faces off against Biden in a general election.

On the other hand, it hit DeSantis from the right by branding him “anti-business.” This conforms to the desired narrative of establishment Republicans who think that unfettered markets are the ultimate good of society. The government has no right to tell corporations what to do, even if those corporations are openly partisan and use their market power to enact policies that harm children. This is the conciliatory, business-friendly view that led to Republican defeats in 2008 and 2012, but again, it would be wrong to think the narrative is meant to scare off any in the conservative base.

Rather, it is meant to appeal to establishment party leaders and donors and persuade them not to back DeSantis. The Democrats hope to elevate Trump in the primaries through continued political prosecutions that elevate his support among Republicans, but will “exhaust” Independents so much that they will not vote for him in the general election. Successfully branding DeSantis as “anti-business” will likely cut into the financial and political support DeSantis needs to secure the GOP nomination. (RELATED: Disney Turned Down Meeting With Uyghur Genocide Victims To Talk China Ties, GOP Reps Claim)

Yet these narratives all fall apart when one realizes that Disney likely had a completely unrelated, practical reason for nixing the project. As Barnes buries in the 16th paragraph of his piece, Disney was already in “the midst of cutting $5.5 billion in costs as it seeks to improve profitability, pay down debt and restore its dividend.” Iger, who came out of retirement to rescue a faltering Disney struggling to recover from streaming losses and the toll Covid took on its parks and resorts, had already committed to reversing many of his predecessors initiatives.

Why would Disney re-locate staff from a perfectly fine California office (many of whom did not wish to go, according to the Times) to a new $1 billion campus if it needed to cut costs? The move is far more likely to be a prudent business decision than any principled political stance.

The Times’ coverage here shows the extraordinary coordination required between corporations, media executives, and Democratic party officials to make implausible narratives stick. While representatives of each faction don’t likely discuss their plans in a smoke-filled room, all of the incentive structures push them naturally together. They are all on the same team because they want the same thing — not only four more years under Biden, but the power, status, and wealth they can accrue under the status quo.

https://dailycaller.com/2023/05/23/corporate-media-hiding-real-reason-disney-canceled-new-florida-investment-desantis/


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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/24/2023 9:37:24 AM   
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Ain't that precious? Bosco thinks a corporation actually needs a reason to do stuff, and that one of the biggest media companies on Earth - Disney - doesn't know how to use spin to give cover to whatever it wants to do anyway. Or that anyone actually gives a fuck about any of that.

Let's talk about the economic impact here, shall we? Jobs lost, jobs not created.

DeSantis has waged war against Disney, and Disney has thus far been malevolent about it all. But it could be downright Maleficent (meaning FUCKING EVIL, but still look fucking amazing).

Nah, the reasons don't actually matter here. It's too late for that to matter. It's always best not to fight. But when you have to fight, fuck all that fair shit. Fight like the third monkey in line for Noah's Ark, and it's starting to rain.

Central Florida is so happy of our ties to Disney, and the positive impact it's brought here, that we named our first professional sports team the Orlando Magic, even without Disney ever owning it (that would be the DeVos family these days).

Orlando is probably the most successful and longest-running "company town" in our nation's history. That's a testament to the people here having the brains to watch Disney through the years, as much as it is to Disney's contributions to our way of life. Disney is still holding back quite a bit, while DeSantis & the GOP are giving it everything they've got. My hope is that the courts resolve this before Disney has to even send a warning shot.

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/24/2023 7:56:15 PM   
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Disney has thus far been malevolent about it all.


Sometimes stopped clocks are accurate

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/27/2023 3:59:49 PM   
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So Meatball Ron has officially announced his campaign. I think Trump is the lesser of those two evils, but the country is screwed if either of them win the White House.

The federal lawsuit is on hold now, as DeSatan is judge shopping, which Disney argues sets a dangerous precedent. Yeah, the federal judge assigned to hear the case was appointed by Obama. Meatball apparently thinks that somehow means something. Nah. Judges appointed by Democrats typically just go with what the law says, since that's their job. Unless the law defies the Constitution in some way, of course.

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/27/2023 8:39:24 PM   
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So Meatball Ron has officially announced his campaign. I think Trump is the lesser of those two evils, but the country is screwed if either of them win the White House.

The federal lawsuit is on hold now, as DeSatan is judge shopping, which Disney argues sets a dangerous precedent. Yeah, the federal judge assigned to hear the case was appointed by Obama. Meatball apparently thinks that somehow means something. Nah. Judges appointed by Democrats typically just go with what the law says, since that's their job. Unless the law defies the Constitution in some way, of course.



They both (Trump and DeSantis) are solely interested in maintaining support from their base (i,e. preserving their political and financial fortunes)

Neither knows or cares about good governance. It is all about "owning the libs!"

Trump is far more corrupt and crimes a lot. ;)
And of course he bows the US to Putin.
DeSantis wins the "owning the libs" contest.

They are both ridiculous in the truest sense of the word.

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/28/2023 6:46:39 AM   
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I'm not sure that Trump's actual crimes are any worse than DeSantis's's'es? violations of the Constitution and human rights, before even getting to the White House. Trump is just dumb, DeSantis is fucking evil.

With Trump, I could tell that he really didn't understand being called a racist. DeSantis doesn't want to be called that either, so he'll just ban the word completely.

DeSantis makes Trump look a lot more progressive, which is scary. Either way, the GOP primary and debates should be fun to watch. Hopefully, it makes Democrat voters realize what's at stake in 2024 and scares them into action.

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/28/2023 11:03:06 AM   
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violations of the Constitution


IMAGINARY violations of the Constitution

(Since when were "Democrats" interested in upholding the Constitution)

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The latest book ban hoax

Following Amanda Gorman's reading of her poem at President Joe Biden's inauguration, administrators at a school in Florida decided the poem would make valuable middle school-level reading. So, they switched the shelf it was on in a K-8 school library — and sparked an international outrage incident.

"I am gutted," Gorman wrote in a successful press release. " Book bans aren’t new, but they have been on the rise." ABC ran a story with the headline, "Amanda Gorman Poem for Biden Inauguration Banned in South Florida School." PBS went with "Amanda Gorman Inaugural Poem Banned from Florida School." Variety noted that "Amanda Gorman Book Sales Skyrocket in Sales Despite Florida Book Ban."

Try to square these headlines with the undisputed facts of the case.

As some, but not all, of the articles relate, the Miami-Dade school district stated that "no literature (book or poem) has been banned or removed. It was determined that 'The Hill We Climb' is better suited for middle school students and, it was shelved in the middle school section of the media center." According to the school, "it remains accessible to all students." According to the Washington Post, students must demonstrate that they are effective readers at the poem's grade level to check it out.

If the book remains in the school library, then you might conclude that it has not been banned. But here’s the interesting thing: According to the now long-standing definition of "banned" used by left-leaning media outlets, it actually has been.

Gorman’s press release called on readers to donate to PEN America, which has written seminal and widely covered reports on the rise of "book banning" in America. According to PEN America, if a book has been temporarily removed for review and then returned to school library shelves, then it has been banned. If a book is no longer available in a middle school library but is available in a high school library, then, according to PEN America, it has been banned. If a book is taken off an assigned class reading list but continues to be in a school library, then, according to PEN America, it has been banned. If a book is removed from a library but is assigned in class, then, according to PEN America, it has been banned.

In raising the national alarm over book banning, PEN America has invoked the specter of fascism, noting that "book bans have an ignominious history — they have been the tools of heinous regimes from Nazi Germany to apartheid South Africa." A historically astute reader might be able to discern a difference here: When the Nazi Party pulled the works of Thomas Mann off of shelves, they did not briefly review and then reshelve them. They burned them.

As the Heritage Foundation’s Jay Greene has found, the vast majority (74%) of books that PEN America lists as banned actually remain available in school libraries. The ones that stay off tend to be pornographic. In fact, as the Washington Post reports, the vast majority of book challenges were based on objections to sexually explicit material. As one Mom for Liberty told the Post, referencing the most-banned Gender Queer, "If that book was made without the strap-on dildo [picture], that book wouldn’t be challenged."

Gorman’s poem was not sexually inappropriate. And the parental objection to it was meritless and inane. But the school review committee concluded that, due to the vocabulary level, it would be better placed in the middle school section of the library — where, to repeat, students of any grade are perfectly free to take it off the shelf and students who can read at its grade level can check it out.

(More at the linked site)

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/28/2023 11:08:46 AM   
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human rights


You're referring to laws that prevent Chinese Communist Party representatives from purchasing lands near military installations, right

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/29/2023 7:49:49 AM   
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Yup, same law. Funny how things that could have been written with the best of intentions really aren't good law.

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/29/2023 7:04:22 PM   
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A federal judge said that DeSantis violated the Constitution when he suspended a state's attorney. That ruling isn't imaginary. But, unfortunately, the Constitution provides no way to reinstate that state's attorney. DeSantis manipulated the spin to say it was a win. It wasn't. It proves that DeSantis is more cunning and manipulative than Trump, and will use every dirty trick he can come up with to have his way.

He will attempt to get rid of anyone that speaks I'll of him, or anything he's trying to do. Regardless of what rules it may break, including the Constitution.

And when did Dems start caring about the Constitution? “For my friends, the world; for my enemies, the law.”

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/29/2023 9:25:08 PM   
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A federal judge said


Wild guess - an Obama judge <spit>

Obama judges will say anything, their words mean nothing.

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/29/2023 9:26:38 PM   
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Yup, same law.


"Democrats" are loons.

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/30/2023 3:09:20 AM   
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Republicans wrote, passed, and signed the law. Obviously, some people oppose it. So now it's up to the courts. It really isn't a Democrat opposition to the law, but specific people targeted by the new law. So we'll see if it holds up or not.

And it doesn't matter who hired the judge at this point, because he already has the damn job and his decision is final (unless overturned on appeal, which has not been filed or mentioned as of yet). And you don't like the result, so you'll question the judge's validity and authority regardless of who appointed him. So I have no reason to Google that for you.

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 5/30/2023 3:18:57 PM   
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Well, more science for Bosco to ignore. But it's a FOX News article, so idk?

Seaweed piles in Florida may contain flesh-eating bacteria
https://www.foxnews.com/us/seaweed-piles-florida-may-contain-flesh-eating-bacteria

All under Meatball Ron's leadership, no less. Yeah, we kinda depend on our environment here in the Sunshine State. It brings in lots of tourists. This seaweed probably will too, but they'll be dressed in hazmat suits instead of speedos.

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 6/2/2023 3:55:45 PM   
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And the federal case now goes to Trump appointee Allen C. Winsor. The original judge recused himself, citing a third-degree relative that owns stock in Disney.

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 6/29/2023 2:01:35 AM   
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And now the State of Florida has filed motions to have the Disney federal lawsuit dropped, for a supposed lack of merit. The motion also seems to have DeSantis and the new Reedy Creek board (whatever the fuck it's called) totally free of Disney's legal actions, claiming legislative immunity. Yeah, we'll see how it goes. DeSantis may win the lawsuit, but I think Florida, especially Central Florida, will ultimately lose.

No, I don't think Disney could possibly leave Orlando, but they would likely be more inclined to invest in states with more politically friendly conditions. Or at least not so adversarial.

DeSantis's governorship will no doubt have consequences for the Sunshine State for decades to come.

Oh, I forgot to link the news story.
https://www.kennythepirate.com/2023/06/26/new-desantis-makes-a-bold-move-in-current-disney-lawsuit/

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 6/29/2023 10:27:59 AM   
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-FR-

I watched Ryan Newman (General counsel to the state of Florida, and Federalist Society darling) try to spin his way out of this.

He says that corporations have no business speaking out on political issues. And that corporations are not entitled to first amendment rights, as those rights are only for individuals. He also reasons, that a corporate CEO does not represent the views of the corporation.

He then says "Citizens United" was rightly decided, because the corporation in that case was non-profit. Yes, that is his excuse.

Except, whenever a corporation speaks out in favor of a right wing political issue, he has no problem whatsoever. Oh... and what about the hundreds of corporations that use company $$$ to donate to right wing nut jobs across the country?

Newman s silent on that too.


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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 6/30/2023 11:17:33 AM   
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Well, Bob Chapek (CEO of Disney at the time) was a citizen, even if he was the CEO of a company. And that citizen spoke out, as he had the right to do under the First Amendment.

Ron DeSantis had no problems with Disney's First Amendment rights when it came to donating to his campaign.

It's complete hypocrisy. And it's just so damn obvious.

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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 10/16/2023 12:01:58 PM   
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I see your drooling nonsense has taken a turn for the worse BoscoX. Not that I thought that was possible myself

As far as I can see Ron DeSantis went to war with Disney because he didn't like them trying to accommodate the Gays and LGBT.

I take it that weakling, racist bigot and homophobe, Ron DeSantis, is winning the war against Disney in the same way he is winning it against the treason Orange crime wave.







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RE: DeSantis vs Disney - 10/21/2023 4:36:57 PM   
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Really, any court proceeding is a lot more boring than you see on Law & Order. There are 2 cases, one in federal vourtm the other in state court. Fairly predictable, with countersuits and motions to dismiss. Even when the suits get settled, the process could drag on for years with appeals.

Rhonda Santos says Florida is where woke goes to die. That seems wrong, since a lot of the modern social movements started because of Trayvon & Pulse.

Bosco hasn't posted for a while. Not sure if he died or just gave up on the place. Id really like to know how someone could support Trump, even still, but I don't think that'll happen.

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