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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 3/6/2025 5:51:12 AM   
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You started this thread with a lie.


That's a lie.

You are a liar.

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/12/2025 7:45:33 AM   
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Bernie Sander's Sugar Daddies Are NOT happy

"OUTRAGEOUS!!! Americans paying the same or less than other countries??? "

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Pharmaceutical industry criticizes the drug pricing plan Trump says he'll sign

https://x.com/KTVB/status/1921915777675858368


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Trump EO Reducing prescription drugs and pharmaceuticals by 30 to 80%
MAHA!

https://x.com/GrrrGraphics/status/1921695706428895251


He signed another EO boosting domestic production of pharmaceuticals - most of the drugs we NEED are sourced from China

Video - https://x.com/mitchellvii/status/1919788609860686326

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/12/2025 7:58:22 AM   
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Bernie Sander's Sugar Daddies Are NOT happy

"OUTRAGEOUS!!! Americans paying the same or less than other countries??? "


First of all... Republicans take boatloads of Big Pharma Money. Big Pharma donates to Bernie, because they want to keep him from getting Congress riled up from passing equal pricing legislations. The Bernie Sander's Sugar Daddies comment is disingenuous at best. Plain stupid at worst. Bernie has done NOTHING in favor of Big Pharma for that money.


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Pharmaceutical industry criticizes the drug pricing plan Trump says he'll sign

https://x.com/KTVB/status/1921915777675858368





This EO (and I mean this sincerely) is nothing short of brilliant. It deals directly with the problem... It says either lower your prices to what you are charging other countries, or we will lower them for you!!! This has been tried in Congress for years and Big Pharma $$$ flowing to both parties kept it from going anywhere.

Trump said F**k congress. I am doing it an EO. Not only an EO, but a brilliantly written one at that!!!
Problem with an EO, is.... It's not law and can be cancelled with the stroke of a pen by the next President.

Bottom line: Trump ROCKED this one!!!!!! We have been complaining about this problem since the 1960's.
Trump figured out how to DO something about it!

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/12/2025 10:01:47 AM   
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First of all... Republicans take boatloads of Big Pharma Money.


Whataboutism at it's worst

Truly pathetic

President Trump has taken over "The Republican Party" and the Uniparty Establishment is reduced to taking ocacasional pot shots at him

Terrorizing moms in Teslas, using extreme lawfare tactics to discourage anyone else from stepping off of the oligarchy reservation, where Bernie Sanders is very comfortable with all of his mansions and millions of dollars and his private jets and his Big Pharma contributions...

Though you refuse to see

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Bottom line: Trump ROCKED this one!!!!!! We have been complaining about this problem since the 1960's.
Trump figured out how to DO something about it!


They all knew how to do something about it the whole time.

Do you also refuse to see that?

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/12/2025 12:23:34 PM   
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First of all... Republicans take boatloads of Big Pharma Money.

Whataboutism at it's worst
Truly pathetic

No whataboutism here as my point was that your "Sugar Daddy" comment was a bit silly. Yes, Bernie take and makes buck wherever he can.
And he LOVES his private jets!

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Bottom line: Trump ROCKED this one!!!!!! We have been complaining about this problem since the 1960's.
Trump figured out how to DO something about it!


They all knew how to do something about it the whole time.

Do you also refuse to see that?



There were multiple attempts in Congress. Big Pharma lobby was just too strong. Trump stood up to them and bypassed Congress.

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/14/2025 11:40:00 AM   
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Rachel Maddow? I have heard off her but haven't watched a lot.
Liz Warren I have also heard off I am trying to remember why.

BoscoX I hate looking your source shit up but if you say that do not fuck that up okay?
Sanders, Bernie (I-VT) $1,417,633
Warren, Elizabeth (D-MA) $822,573

My guess those two are well down the list and were to cheap to pay for a financial advisor and all the bullshit that goes with that stuff. Insider info, not that you were talking about that because you are dumber than me.

$16,054,355
Total from Pharmaceuticals/Health Products PACs to candidates, 2023-2024
$7,122,008
To Democrats
$8,876,047
To Republicans
116
https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/industry-detail/H04/2024

I am calling that even. It will be 10 times the amount to both sides. They hide most off it but I am prepared to work with those figures. I would have thought it was 70% to republicans and 30% divy to demoncrats

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/16/2025 5:38:24 AM   
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...your "Sugar Daddy" comment was a bit silly.


Who's yer cult's sugar daddy

WSJ: Pfizer delayed COVID vaccine to stop Trump from winning 2020 election

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/16/2025 5:49:29 AM   
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President Trump had promised the vaccines before the election, which they should have been.

But Pfizer's politicization of the release of the Covid vax allowed Biden & the Democrat Media to accuse President Trump of lying, and of deliberately killing people - when the exact opposite is the truth

Such coordination between Big Pharma & your cult makes it obvious why your cult has done NOTHING to lower the cost of healthcare for Americans, and for America itself - our Medicare budget costs are killing us, and it is by design

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/16/2025 9:39:19 AM   
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Ask anyone from the UK to name their favourite America Politician. Many of them will say Obama but those who read a little more will say Bernie Sanders, as do I. You American's kept that one hidden.

Try and not overate the British too much I had a couple of my friends say to me I think Trump 1.0 will make a good president as he is a very successful businessman. Those two were Scottish women. Back then I tried to explain what Trump was but you know how women like shows like the Apprentice and cooking shit TV programmes.

Both of them, and a few others, said to be what the hell is wrong with America at time of January 6th Insurrection. His other cases made the news here.

Bernie Sanders was taken out, dare I say this word, by the Clinton Foundation and their media. I think that nomination was real close let me look it up. Fuck it! I cant waste my life looking up everything american and stuff most of you should know.

With covid a good million american died needless Other countries fared even worse.

Boscox it will work something like 70/30 70% to winning party and 30% to losing party the investment of Big Phamara. Call it 10% for the Dems. The 70/30 rule you can apply to old soviets countries and states.

https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/industry-detail/H04/2024 did I do that link last time? I will find a better one but on that one the 70/30 rules almost applies.

Fuck it! You lot do it for once.

Here is the big oil one. Big oil spent $445m in last election cycle to influence Trump and Congress, report says https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/23/big-oil-445m-trump-congress

Big oil spent a stunning $445m throughout the last election cycle to influence Donald Trump and Congress, a new analysis has found.

That figure includes funding from January 2023 and November 2024 for political donations, lobbying and advertising to support elected officials and specific policies. Because it does not include money funneled through dark-money groups – which do not have to reveal their donors – it is almost certainly a vast understatement, says the report from green advocacy group Climate Power, which is based on campaign finance disclosures and advertising industry data.

Fossil fuel interests poured $96m into Donald Trump’s re-election campaign and affiliated political action committees, the report found. Much of that was covered by megadonor oil billionaires, such as the fracking magnate Harold Hamm, the pipeline mogul Kelcy Warren and the drilling tycoon Jeffery Hildebrand.

Additional contributions came from lesser-known oil and gas interests, including fossil fuel-trading hedge funds, mining corporations and the producers of offshore-drilling ships and fuel tanks.

Fossil fuel companies and their trade groups spent another $243m lobbying Congress. Those donors stand to profit from priorities set by Senate-confirmed Trump cabinet appointees, such Chris Wright, the fracking CEO who was tapped to head the Department of Energy, and Lee Zeldin, the former New York representative who has accepted more than $400,000 in fossil fuel-tied campaign donations and who will lead the Environmental Protection Agency.

Big oil also spent some $80m on advertising to support their interests. That includes funding for ad campaigns run in swing states, such as one from the refining lobbying organization American Fuel & Petrochemical Manufacturers, which railed against Joe Biden’s pro-electric vehicle policies, or another eight-figure ad blitz from top US oil lobbying group the American Petroleum Institute that promoted the idea that fossil fuels are “vital” to global energy security. Neither campaign directly endorsed Trump, but both targeted audiences in swing states.

Call it 2 trillion. NEVER underestimate dark money. In this case it will also include places like Saudi and Russia.

From my 2 trillion the democrats would have received 200 billion plus. It could have been less but it was most likely was higher.

America's drug prices and what they pay for health care is well beyond truly horrific. It is unique to America. If any of you here pay for drugs can you tell me which one and the prices?

In the G20 and shit like that USA HC will rank near the bottom.

The little I know about Bernie Sanders is he wants universal Health Care - which will explain why the Clinton Foundation and their backers barely beat him on that nomiantion - took him out of the nomiantion. It will also include big oil and others.

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/17/2025 12:33:50 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Fast Reply -

Bernie Sander's Sugar Daddies Are NOT happy

"OUTRAGEOUS!!! Americans paying the same or less than other countries??? "


First of all... Republicans take boatloads of Big Pharma Money. Big Pharma donates to Bernie, because they want to keep him from getting Congress riled up from passing equal pricing legislations. The Bernie Sander's Sugar Daddies comment is disingenuous at best. Plain stupid at worst. Bernie has done NOTHING in favor of Big Pharma for that money.


quote:

Pharmaceutical industry criticizes the drug pricing plan Trump says he'll sign

https://x.com/KTVB/status/1921915777675858368



quote:



This EO (and I mean this sincerely) is nothing short of brilliant. It deals directly with the problem... It says either lower your prices to what you are charging other countries, or we will lower them for you!!! This has been tried in Congress for years and Big Pharma $$$ flowing to both parties kept it from going anywhere.

Trump said F**k congress. I am doing it an EO. Not only an EO, but a brilliantly written one at that!!!
Problem with an EO, is.... It's not law and can be cancelled with the stroke of a pen by the next President.

Bottom line: Trump ROCKED this one!!!!!! We have been complaining about this problem since the 1960's.
Trump figured out how to DO something about it!


Bernie Sanders took Big Pharma cash. Trump took 1.3Million one year.

But neither Sanders, nor Trump spout Big Pharma propaganda.

You know who does??? Mr. John Thune (Current Senate Majority Leader)
Another HUGE recipient not just from Big Pharma companies, but from the CEO's personally.

Try finding this word-for-word parroted Big Pharma propaganda on Bernie Sanders web site.
https://www.thune.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2019/12/thune-pelosi-drug-bill-is-a-bad-prescription-for-the-american-people

This him pushing back on a bill to allow Medicare to negotiate for certain drugs using Euro prices as a reference. It passed the House, but Thune and his Pharma cash Republican Senators killed it in the Senate.

Fast forward to now
You know who is pushing back on Trump's drug policy? hmmm Could it be?
https://x.com/i/grok/share/WdE8uQ280zLaL0btHiuvjs2Kx



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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/18/2025 8:39:56 AM   
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I don’t like RINOs any more than I like their Democrat Cult friends

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/18/2025 10:23:13 AM   
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I am not really sure what RINO means or what makes someone one?

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/18/2025 10:28:19 AM   
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I don’t like RINOs any more than I like their Democrat Cult friends



Are you SERIOUSLY calling John Thune a RINO?????

Since the 1980's... Republicans blocked EVERY effort to call BS on US drug manufacturers charging Americans 4x what they charge the rest of the world.

The Republican line ALWAYS equaled the Big Pharma line:

Forcing drug companies to sell a drug for the SAME price to Americans as they do to foreigners = Price Fixing
Price Fixing will lead to shortages and will stifle innovation.


Like a broken record. Heard it for 40 years. From every Republican in both houses of Congress. You could not be a Congressional Republican without parroting the same line. Every Republican thought that way (exactly as John Thune does). You can't get more Republican than John Thune.

Calling John Thune a RINO is like calling Karl Marx a capitalist.

FINALLY, when people were just fed up with the bullshit, Big Pharma said...
"Nothing to see here with our pricing. The reason drugs are so expensive is because of PBM's and their huge markups"

This site is PURE propaganda...
https://phrma.org/policy-issues/cost-of-medicines

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/19/2025 9:35:31 AM   
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Fast Reply-

Expert Video -

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Bernie Sanders just confirmed Democrats are the actual threat to democracy:

Question: “Hasn't been a fair Democratic primary since 2008.. Are they a threat to democracy?”

Sanders: “Yeah, I'm not going to argue with that”

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1924484933453574289?s=46&t=QpYUw6Sif8fumszGm9mdDA


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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/19/2025 11:02:48 AM   
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Fast Reply-

Expert Video -

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Bernie Sanders just confirmed Democrats are the actual threat to democracy:

Question: “Hasn't been a fair Democratic primary since 2008.. Are they a threat to democracy?”

Sanders: “Yeah, I'm not going to argue with that”

https://x.com/bennyjohnson/status/1924484933453574289?s=46&t=QpYUw6Sif8fumszGm9mdDA




It is apparent that you and your expert do not understand how our political system works.
Primaries have NOTHING to do with democracy. Many parties don't even HAVE primaries.

Parties are PRIVATE organizations that pick their nominees however they see fit. There is no requirement for them to even have a primary.

The DEMOCRACY comes in when people vote for candidates in a general election.

What is really killing democracy is the vice-like hold both parties have on our system.
We need to DUMP the electoral college completely. It is the most undemocratic thing ever invented. Madison was disgusted with it, but he realized that was the only way to get all the states to agree to a Constitution.
https://fairvote.org/why-james-madison-wanted-to-change-the-way-we-vote-for-president/

This stupid system disenfranchises hundreds of thousands of conservatives in California's central valley, and Oregon and Washington's central agricultural areas.

It disenfranchises Democrats in every red state, and Republicans in every blue state.


And more specifically, the winner-take-all system adopted by almost every state profoundly exacerbates all of the above.



BOTTOM LINE: Primaries have NOTHING TO DO WITH DEMOCRACY. That was a line created by your Masters when the Democrats party elite selected Kamala Harris (a waste of a candidacy)

Bernie picked up on it out of frustration. Nothing more. He knows better.

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/19/2025 1:40:57 PM   
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Primaries have NOTHING to do with democracy.


Wow...


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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/19/2025 2:42:44 PM   
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Primaries have NOTHING to do with democracy.


Wow...




Maybe you learned something?

Parties are nowhere in the Constitution. Nor were they ever intended to be an integral part of our electoral process.
Primaries (as the courts have ruled) are nominating contests for the parties. I formed the MJ party last year and personally nominated my own candidate. (I had no primary) Everyone had the opportunity to vote for my candidate or not. THAT is democracy.

Not primaries.

Take some notes

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/19/2025 2:47:09 PM   
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This is your cult saving democracy - they INSTALL the person the billionaires tell them to install

You GO, little clown man

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/20/2025 7:30:45 AM   
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This is your cult saving democracy - they INSTALL the person the billionaires tell them to install

You GO, little clown man


You know what?

Not only that - but the people they install are grossly incompetent individuals who have to be managed by the real ruling class from behind the curtain

"Democracy!" <fist pump>

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RE: Bernie Sanders is #1 - 5/20/2025 7:42:17 AM   
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And your "one true journalism" lies to you regarding everything about them, every step along the way.

All lies, all of the time, as they pocket massive foreign bribes and kickbacks, and they slime and smear and censor and prosecute anyone who dares stand up against them on BS charges

Lock up peaceful protesters in solitary confinement without bail or trial

"Democracy!!!"

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