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Diva Las Vegas - 4/14/2004 8:35:49 AM

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Womens support egroup created to unite, connect and address the lifestyle issues, concerns and direction of all women - dominant, submissive, switch, wiccan, goth or simply curious.

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RE: Diva Las Vegas - 4/23/2004 6:41:31 PM

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*Disclaimer* This site is known to post partial truths, and though it says it is a discussion group bans anyone that disagrees with D&D.

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RE: Diva Las Vegas - 4/24/2004 9:34:24 PM

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Actually - we banned Sandy from our egroup "Diva Las Vegas" simply because she continually re-posts, and copies private emails simply to stir up trouble in other groups - which we had been warned about by other people. She is an agitator, which is sad- we use to enjoy her company when we saw her.. she and whatever she says are simply to be ignored....

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RE: Diva Las Vegas - 4/25/2004 12:42:01 AM

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I have to wonder what world you live in that such blantant lies are acceptable? I suggest you find some proof of you lies and send it to me. I would have no problem publically apologizing if you *show* your *facts*. But as your comments have no basis in reality, I won't hold my breath.

I was *banned* for calling you on your censorship. I was *banned* for actually thinking you spoke the truth in what you claimed. It was definitely my error. I had been warned by many about the way you speak from both sides of your mouth. The only letter I ever posted was done so AFTER I was banned. But here, let us let others *see* my crimes:

(posted to a local board on 4/23)
Well, it seems to be more than just censorship. I sent a copy of the last
post to D&D. Diva wrote me back saying:

"Thank you Sandy for the email. Simply stated this is an issue we have no
desire to continue and do not, whatsoever or wish to promote this rant, on any
of our boards again..

Thank You..

Diva"

A bit ironic since they are the ones who originally posted it and claim their
board one where ALL women can feel safe in speaking out. Clearly it should
include the line *as long as you agree with us, because if you don't we will
either not post or ban you from the group for saying something that doesn't let
us appear to be the god and godess we see ourselves as*.

My original comments were because they wanted people to *judge for
themselves* the words of Sonny, yet did not post the WHOLE thing. I only wanted people
to have a fair basis for making the decision.

D&D, feel free to post my words on your board and tear me apart for them.
This current childish act has caused me to lose all respect for you as
dominants. A true dominant has enough self confidence to debate things even if they
are difficult for them. They have enough ability to control the childish urges
such as banning someone for nothing more than disagreeing with them.
Ironically, not one word I spoke was against either of you. My only comments were
that I have seen things on dominants rights and that I find that it sad that
submissives use *rights* to be rude.

That could sound ironic given this letter, but as your actions have placed
you in a non-dominant light in my eyes, I do not feel that I am in anyway over
stepping.

This letter is being posted and sent to D&D, even though I know it doesn't
have to be. They have their spies on this board, (sad, that they left yet want
to know everything said), and would be informed of it anyway.

Sandy

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RE: Diva Las Vegas - 4/25/2004 7:07:08 AM

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It is so sad that this woman has absolutely no idea what she speaks of, and don't many who are hoodwinked by this particular group.

Collarme.com, again, will not be used by us for this ridiculous banter. We have moved past this issue, the ridiculous egroup which she speaks of, and people whose main objectibve in life, obviously, is to agitate and continue troublemaking..

We will not respond any longer to this delusioned crap...

We apologize, Moderator, for this rant...

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RE: Diva Las Vegas - 4/25/2004 11:12:15 AM

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quote]It is so sad that this woman has absolutely no idea what she speaks of, and don't many who are hoodwinked by this particular group. [/quote]

I really hate to disillusion you Diva and or Daddy, but this has nothing to do with any group but yours. Yes, I am on the boards for LVBDSM, but I have not been to a munch or play party for them in over 3 years, and do not post very often. If has to do with your actions and your actions alone.

You are the one that chose to cross post something Sonny wrote, but did not post everything. As I stated before, I didn't even agree with everything he said, and said in my post that I wanted people to have the whole post so they could make informed decsisions for themelves instead of only having your colored sections to draw conclusions for. That it was from LVBDSM was irrelevant, I would have done the same no matter whose post you cross posted in a partial manner in an effort to prove your point.

I attempted to post (something you say in your guides you wish people to do) both through email and from the board itself, and waited an entire 48 hours before deciding to place the post somewhere that would not censor it and to state how sad your need to censor anyone that says something you don't like is.

Do not delude yourself into thinking this has anything to do with LVBDSM. I find the whole issue sickening in reality. I joined the group because you do post some good articles and info. I had posted very little on it, and reality (which I am fully in) is if you had been courteous enough to write me offsite with your concerns instead of just ignoring the post and then banning me for bringing your lack of action (and censorship) to light.

You say you are done with this, so I won't expect a reply.

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RE: Diva Las Vegas - 4/25/2004 2:44:16 PM

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Funny, I have seen absolutely nothing resembling this behavior here from Sandy. Is this a personal grudge you have against her that you are bringing into our forum? If so, might I suggest that you refrain from bickering with her about it in public and fighting it out in email, if you must? I have seen Sandy as a mature individual, however, based on these posts, I question you, not her. I know that no one here is interested in watching this flame battle play out in front of our eyes.

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RE: Diva Las Vegas - 4/25/2004 3:41:43 PM

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I am going to lock this thread.

If either party would like to discuss this further maybe privately would be a better way.

Also, if anyone wishes to contact me in regard to this thread feel free to email me.

I have seen, in the past from Sandy, a very mature and respectful person. She has given great input on many occasions. You posted a link to your egroup here and she simply offered her expierience there. This board is often helpful to those in the lifestyle, or those searching for information about the lifestyle. I for one like to hear input about past expieriences with different groups. Of course one should always investigate and draw thier own conclusions as to the operations of egroups, personal sites, message boards etc. What works for some doesn't for others.

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