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Jasmyn -> RE: The mind f_ck (12/17/2004 7:43:29 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MC2044 Subtitution is a form of deception and often leads to good 'mind fucks'. A few have already been mentioned. Showing the sub one thing then using another often serves the purpose of playing with the sub's mind while actually engaging in a safer activity. Showing a larger dildoe or butt plug than will actually be used, or a wicked whip, when only a smaller stinger will be used, and so on all work great. Enjoy yourself NaturalDom44, and I am sure your sub will glory in the pleasure you gain. Thanks MC... 'sometimes the mindfark will be intentional, other times just happening in the moment because I see an opportunity and run with it. I remember topping a blindfolded switch/sub years ago and ran a kitchen fork over his body. For days after he still could not fathom what that partcular 'toy' was and the people privy to the scene werent telling him either. To My dismay a m/dom told him a short time later...but he still talks about that scene as been one of his most mememorable to date...I think he now polishes his silver too in rememberance of the great fork fark of 1999 ;) Lam...for a lot of people there is more to be learned from a suggestion than an act...and for them there is often more effect in not doing something than there is in seeing it through. Jasmyn

MaitresseEden -> RE: The mind f_ck (12/18/2004 7:11:36 AM)
A Mind Fuck is a Terrible thing to waste.. I love them.. Getting into someone head is awesome and the utilimate rush in knowing you have that control. It's all about ANTICIPATION. I've pulled off some great ones!. One of my favorites was for a subs birthday. My sub at the time had long held fantasies of me whoreing him out to a bunch of people, either men or woman to be used as a fuck toy for thier pleasure. So over the course of several weeks, I dropped hints that he needed to be careful what he wished for, also during that time I made sure lots of the dominants that he liked and a few that he didn't Flirted with him and planted innuendo's. The weekend prior to his birthday I insructed him that he had to take not his birthday off work but the day after. At first he balked.. saying he could still function at work with no sleep the following day, but I insisted, saying you have no frame of reference for what is going to happen there for you can't be the judge of that. Take it off.. He agreed albeit reluctantly. On the day of his birthday he went to work and I had stuffed his briefcase full of numbered envelopes. Every hour on the hours one of the Mistress's or Dominant friends would call him and instuct him to open the envelope and read it to them, and do as intructed.. The first told him to go to the rest room and put on a cock ring.. the second.. remove his underwear and carry them in his hand back to his office.. so on and so forth.. all the doms who called told him they looked forward to seeing him soon and that he needed to get ready for them. At lunch he was sent to the store to by enemas .. the at 4 he was instructed to go home and adminster them.. and sit and wait for my call. He had no contact with me other than through the written envelopes for 2 days.. When I called him at 5 I told him to open the last envelope that I had hid in the apt.. which took him a bit of a while to figure out the clue to its hiding place and it told him to go the hotel front desk. he drive to the hotel and got the key.. and was instructed to go to the room and secure himself ass up into the locking bench and put on the blindfolds and ear plugs and simply wait.. I left him waiting about 7 mins.. which to this day he says felt like 3 hours. Now what was great about this surprise is it happened just after 9/11 and because the airports were closed he missed a trip that he had planned to visit another mistress friend that he hadn't seen in years (one very dear to him and I) Well the airports had just reopened and unbeknowst to him I had just flown her in for the night. So in we came into the room with are strap ons and various attachments and began to take turns at both ends over and over.. exiting the room and reentering.. then we stuck and candle in his ass and I made him sing happy birthday to himself.. then pulled it out and told him to make a wish and blow it out.. He did and then I said.. Are you ready to see your surprise.. When I took off the blindfold he saw us both and was speechless with happiness. And totally blown away because he thought the room was full of people, and had no clue she would be there. We then proceeded to have a great time with each other,.. The key to this sucessful mind fuck was planning and attention to details. It wouldn't have worked without the help of everyone who called and teased him.. it needed the months of planting the seed.. it need the change of venue and it needed the anticaption of the unknown. It took alot of work, but it was worth it for the memories are priceless. Ms.Eden

phoenix52 -> RE: The mind f_ck (12/22/2004 7:50:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster I have to say I've never understood the purpose of mindfucks. If I want to piss on my slave, I'll just piss on her. I don't have to blindfold her and squirt warm mineral water on her while letting her wonder whether I'm really pissing on her. A mindfuck is basically a deception, and I don't like deceptions. If the person isn't ready for what you have in mind, don't go there yet. And if she is, then just do it. Why fuck around? Lam i agree.... i think trust is the most important thing in a BDSM relationship, and the more "out there" mindfucks just totally destroy that. For example, one i've heard is showing the sub a real knife, blindfolding her, and fucking her with a butter knife. i think you've shredded me from the inside out but it was all a joke? That makes me want to scene with you again.... Just my opinion... :)

Jasmyn -> RE: The mind f_ck (12/22/2004 8:41:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: phoenix52 quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster I have to say I've never understood the purpose of mindfucks. If I want to piss on my slave, I'll just piss on her. I don't have to blindfold her and squirt warm mineral water on her while letting her wonder whether I'm really pissing on her. A mindfuck is basically a deception, and I don't like deceptions. If the person isn't ready for what you have in mind, don't go there yet. And if she is, then just do it. Why fuck around? Lam i agree.... i think trust is the most important thing in a BDSM relationship, and the more "out there" mindfucks just totally destroy that. For example, one i've heard is showing the sub a real knife, blindfolding her, and fucking her with a butter knife. i think you've shredded me from the inside out but it was all a joke? That makes me want to scene with you again.... Just my opinion... :) And for some the idea that they might have been but weren't is what enables them to trust their dominant even more so. Do people not go to a horror movie in the hope what might happens on screen will scare them? Some people want that in their dominant. Have nothing against people having an opinion but do when that opinion is to say they find the act pointless in the face of others saying differently. Jasmyn

Skandel -> RE: The mind f_ck (12/22/2004 8:54:03 PM)
I think the best mind fck I've been given was when I decided to finally scene with a Dom I'd been dating. From our long talks and just from spending time togeather, he knew that my mind works pretty fast and he decided to use that against me. While we were talking about scenes and the lifestyle he kept talking about safety and things he liked and didn't like to do to his subs. One of the things he mentioned that he liked was locking on cuffs and collars for days at a time... When we got back to his place and after he had me strip he locked his cuffs and collar on. He then leaned down and whispered in my ear that he hoped I didn't mind my roommate seeing me walk around with a collar and cuffs locked on until Fedex arrived the next day to deliver the only key to the locks to me at my apartment. Since my roommate has NO clue about my involvement in this lifestyle I flipped. When he first told me this, I thought logically that he wouldn't lock something on me without having spare keys, he's too much of a safety freak. However, as the minutes went by with him just standing there laughing at me, I started to doubt myself. I literally saw red....it took him about 20 minutes to convince me to even move. I remember the high and the thrill that he really might have done that...and after awhile I decided just to live with it. I've endured more embarassment than having a collar and cuffs locked onto me. Of course it turns out that he had the keys and when he took me to breakfast the next morning he said the look on my face was priceless. He also confessed that he had almost told me he really had the key to calm me down but I started responding to him before that. That was my first true mind fck and it was a trip to remember.

phoenix52 -> RE: The mind f_ck (12/22/2004 9:08:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jasmyn And for some the idea that they might have been but weren't is what enables them to trust their dominant even more so. Do people not go to a horror movie in the hope what might happens on screen will scare them? Some people want that in their dominant. Have nothing against people having an opinion but do when that opinion is to say they find the act pointless in the face of others saying differently. Jasmyn As i said, i was just sharing my opinion.... as someone else on these boards wisely said, this is not a one size fits all lifestyle.

BlueWing -> RE: The mind f_ck (7/15/2009 12:51:03 PM)
I say, I'd be terrified the wax would go down my throat, or into my nostrils, harden, and obstruct my breathing. Would be someone scared of the burns, in that they could cause swelling and infection. A mind f*ck, indeed. But what a loving thing you did with the ice water. That alone, in my view, is a form of aftercare - following the panic with something skin-and-emotion soothing.

dreamerdreaming -> RE: The mind f_ck (7/15/2009 1:32:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster I have to say I've never understood the purpose of mindfucks. If I want to piss on my slave, I'll just piss on her. I don't have to blindfold her and squirt warm mineral water on her while letting her wonder whether I'm really pissing on her. A mindfuck is basically a deception, and I don't like deceptions. If the person isn't ready for what you have in mind, don't go there yet. And if she is, then just do it. Why fuck around? Lam What he said. Ya gotta love those fucking elephants. [8\|] Mindfucks are a hard limit for me. Planning and carrying out an outright deception on my slaveboy would just be so wrong. I mean, WTF? It wouldn't foster trust at all, between us. Quite the contrary. It would make him anxious, fearful, and angry- and wouldn't be amusing, funny or yummy to me at all. The idea repulses me. YKINMK.

LovingMistress45 -> RE: The mind f_ck (7/15/2009 7:01:49 PM)
I love mind fucks and have had subs that loved them as well. I do think you need to have an established relationship and the sub needs to trust you. As one sub said he trusted me but he also knew I was a sadist and so there was always this tiny voice inside saying she might just really do it. It is like going to a haunted house, you know it is not real but that doesn't mean you can't get the crap scared out of you. My one sub had very sensitive balls. He could take pain infliction on his cock but his balls were really a hard limit. One night I had him on his hands and knees while rubbing a wooden spoon over his balls and then ordered him to ask me to please spank his balls. It was so fun to watch his confliction and he started and stopped several times before he actually was able to choke the words out. When he did I pulled the spoon back and slammed it hard on the back of his upper thigh. He screamed and fell forward it was just a few seconds before he realized I had not hit his balls. It was a very hot scene for both of us. And I comforted him and provided aftercare, let him process the thoughts and feelings that had run through him during the scene. And it was the conflict between trusting me and at the same time have a tiny bit of fear that my sadistic nature might take over that had caused the start/stop of his making the request. Personally, I think mind fucks can increase trust. The sub pushes through the fear, trust you enough to allow you to do something that is beyond what he/she desires or is maybe a hard limit, and in the end finds their trust was well placed. He said that he would tell himself that I loved him and I won't really hit his balls and he would start to make the request and then the little voice would say but what if she does and he would stop. In the end he felt closer to me and safer knowing he could trust me even when his fear was high.

BoundDragon -> RE: The mind f_ck (7/16/2009 11:23:17 AM)
I must say I adore a minf f*ck. I have a definate like for sensory torture/teasing, I find the two go hand in hand quite well especially wax & ice play. Sometimes with scening you are so prepared for the feeling you know you are going to receive that its effect is lessened, I love being kept on my toes and sensory torture does just that... its delicious[sm=cute.gif]

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