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The mind f_ck - 12/13/2004 2:00:46 PM   
NaturlDom44


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Status: offline 		I'm always looking for more ways of mind f-cking. an example of one scene I used, was a waxing scene with My submissive bound and blindfolded face up. This had lasted about 20 minutes from the waist up and had worked up around the neck area. I whispered in her ear, asking if she trusted me, to which she replied YES, then I ask her to open her mouth and stick out her tongue, she was very nervous about this, the openign seeming a bit timid, what she didn't know was I had a handful of ice and when she was finially ready, i dripped some ice water on her tongue and lips, Boy did she jump on the first drop, and loved the rest of the scene. After she told me how hard it had been for her to comply and how wonderful she felt submitting when she did, and surprised at the touch of the ice water, she said it helped her devolope a deeper bond with Me
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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/13/2004 2:02:52 PM   
NaturlDom44


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Status: offline 		I forgot to add, can anyone share their favorite mind f_ck

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/13/2004 3:04:48 PM   
sub4hire


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Status: offline 		To me this would serve zero purpose. If I trust my Dominant then I trust them. I don't just say the words. While really never trusting him to begin with.

I have a question. She was bound, how was it hard for her to comply? She had no other alternative, unless a safe word was used?

I've never quite understood the whole mind control ideas. They would only work with people who haven't that close of a bond. What happens when that bond forms?


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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/13/2004 7:38:13 PM   
Wolfsbabygirlz


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Status: offline 		Please forgive for missing what was the mind fu** ....miss it

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/13/2004 7:50:45 PM   
Wolfsbabygirlz


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Status: offline 		boy would i luv to go there, but think i'll just say hi ...

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/13/2004 9:15:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree with you.
I trust my Dom and I do not feel the way that NaturlDom44 is describing (I think that is what you are saying, please correct me if I'm wrong). Because I trust him to always keep my safety in mind the fear is not there.

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/13/2004 10:31:35 PM   
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Because I trust him to always keep my safety in mind the fear is not there.


I agree too, that this wouldn't do anything to me at all, but I wanted to say that one kind of fear is still there. The anticipate-y fear never really goes away, but that's just a "what's gonna happen next" thing. I know that he'd never ever do anything to hurt me or endager me, but of course I get anticipatory shivers.

Still, in the case in question I'd have done what he said, without worrying. I mean, the worst thing I can think of that he'd do isn't really that bad :)


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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/13/2004 11:36:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		I luuurrrve mind farks... telling a slave he has to bask you to pour hot molten wax over his cock...watch his face, incredulous, when mintues or hours after he does just that....only to say... "no, can't be bothered" ...to have them fall to their knees at your feet in relief.

Will try the ice trick thanks Naturl ;)

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/14/2004 4:19:17 AM   
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quote:

Still, in the case in question I'd have done what he said, without worrying. I mean, the worst thing I can think of that he'd do isn't really that bad :)


Was trying to find the words for this myself, but they just weren't there.
Thanks

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/14/2004 7:13:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		My dear Brother. I do not know if you have used this or not, but talking about mind twisting, if you haven't it's something that you might try. It works best if your little one is not used to "toilet" play.

At any rate, here is what you do. Purchase some bottled water and, after removing the cap, warm it preferably in a pan of water on the stove. Be careful of the microwave as often that plastic will melt!

You can have another doing this for you as you have your blindfolded and bound slave ... face up...teasing and arousing her...again, using one other to increase the arousal state only increases the fun... bring her quite close several times but do not allow her to go over...then when she is truly near the edge... tell her that you must stop to relieve yourself.

There is the possibility that she will beg you not to go...but even if she doesn't start to leave, so she hears you...then say something like, "no, it's not fair...I'll go right here. Then after positioning yourself over her, perhaps even over her mouth if she is used to drinking urine, using the body temperature liquid which has been placed in a turkey baster...and squirt it out onto her...face, hair, vagina...

Only when the blindfold is removed will she realize that you did not use the real thing...

Another version, is to have her lying face down...and repeat the above scenario only this time use her anus as the repository for your "urine"...

The reactions of different slaves and subs will truly amaze you.

Write and let Me know how this works out or if you want other tips...

Luv xx

OM

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/14/2004 7:51:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		I trust my Master with my life and wellbeing, but that doesn't mean there are not times that I'm not a little afraid. I don't think it's fear of being hurt so much as fear of the unknown. I believe the thought of asking if the sub trusts the Master is almost most of the mind f*ck. I know when my Master asks me something like that, that there is something new about to happen. And he wants me to know He won't really hurt me.There's something to be said for that. I always feel a little closer to him after a session like that. I think I would have reacted the same way if my Master had done the same thing. I would have hessitantly held out my tongue and just waited thinking... I know he can't possibly be thinking about doing that... There are times, even when bound, that it is hard to do what is asked for you. The Sub Could have kept her mouth closed. She may have been punished later, but she could have.

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/15/2004 7:24:34 AM   
Kiaban


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Status: offline 		Working off the same wax idea , another variation that many use is to use hotter wax from a height and sparingly...having some of the very soft, [cooler wax] already melted and out of view, then switch them and pour the big cooler wax fast all over them.

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/15/2004 9:15:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ok, the usual safety thing: be careful with mind fucks as there are landmines in the mind you are messing with. That being said, I have two to add:

Knife play - Show the knife (a particularly artful and scary knife is good), then blindfold her. Plam a piece of melting or wet ice that you've gotten out earlier (so she doesn't hear it rattle) and a credit card. Wait until the water is melting and running down the card. Drag the rounded edge of the card across her skin. she will feel the liquid left behind and swear she has been cut.

Touch me - Bind and blindfold her. Then touch her, very, very gently somewhere. Begin to vary the kind of touch (even use toys) and the lightness ir heaviness of touch. Have her guess the toy and and ask, "Where am I touching you?" each time. Several times, don't touch at all, just stand real close and ask, "Where am I touching you?"she'll make up something! she gets points for what she has right, you get points for what she gets wrong. she gets "punished" in the end for your points.

Fire


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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/15/2004 3:54:10 PM   
sub4hire


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Status: offline 		siamsa you got the general drift of what I was speaking of.
I generally reply very quickly as my mind has many different thoughts rushing through it. Sometimes I don't explain myself well enough. Well, you probably already know that just from reading my responses on the boards.

I really have no fear of the unknown. I know that whatever happens I will not be hurt. If an accident was to happen then so be it.


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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/16/2004 3:40:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mmmmmm mindfucks.

I like the idea of setting up a branding scene. Leading a girl into a semi-darkened room with a small cauldron of hot coals in its center. Around the cauldron is an assortment of branding devices. pokers, brands, blades, etc. Undressing her slowly and explaining that this is never something that she has ever endured and teaching her how to care for a burn wound. As I speak to her, I would select the most evil-looking branding device available and slowly slide it into the coals.

After binding her up, I would remove the brand from the coals and let her feel the heat radiating from it. I would then realize that she would better endure this if she were blindfolded...so she couldn't see it coming...easier to bear it that way.

Once blindfolded, I would produce a similiar branding instrument that has been sitting in a bucket of very cold water and "brand" her with that.

I really enjoy the mindfuck and look forward to hearing other Evil ideas.

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/17/2004 4:51:38 AM   
conflicted


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Status: offline 		Ahhh yes, i had a mind F&@k recently. During some intense play, i asked Master if i could please have a drink of water (it probably wasnt at the most appropriate time) but i was sooooo thirsty, i felt i couldnt swallow.
Anyway...... He grabbed a cup and led me to the bathroom (it has toilet, basin,shower all in together) He again asked me if i still wanted a drink. my mind was in a spin, my heart was beating so fast, i replied that i did, to my relief He turned on the basin tap, i had convinced myself He was going to make me drink the toilet water!

*apologies if my posting in this section has upset Anyone*

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/17/2004 4:35:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have to say I've never understood the purpose of mindfucks. If I want to piss on my slave, I'll just piss on her. I don't have to blindfold her and squirt warm mineral water on her while letting her wonder whether I'm really pissing on her.

A mindfuck is basically a deception, and I don't like deceptions. If the person isn't ready for what you have in mind, don't go there yet. And if she is, then just do it. Why fuck around?

Lam

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/17/2004 5:13:36 PM   
MC2044


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Status: offline 		Isn't it funny how you ask one question and get answers to others? As I understand it, NaturalDom44 asked for other 'mind fuck' techniques or actvities. Some like Jasmyn answered the question, while others went off on a tangent. Perhaps someone should start a new thread on the other subject being discussed here?

Subtitution is a form of deception and often leads to good 'mind fucks'. A few have already been mentioned. Showing the sub one thing then using another often serves the purpose of playing with the sub's mind while actually engaging in a safer activity. Showing a larger dildoe or butt plug than will actually be used, or a wicked whip, when only a smaller stinger will be used, and so on all work great.

Enjoy yourself NaturalDom44, and I am sure your sub will glory in the pleasure you gain.

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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/17/2004 6:19:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

I have to say I've never understood the purpose of mindfucks. If I want to piss on my slave, I'll just piss on her. I don't have to blindfold her and squirt warm mineral water on her while letting her wonder whether I'm really pissing on her.

A mindfuck is basically a deception, and I don't like deceptions. If the person isn't ready for what you have in mind, don't go there yet. And if she is, then just do it. Why fuck around?

Lam


That was kinda my point as well. If you're going to do it, do it. If not, why do you want him/her to think you're doing it?

I think this is one of those things I just don't get.

Again, though, to each their own:)


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RE: The mind f_ck - 12/17/2004 7:16:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		I absolutley love a good mind f**k.
It is because i trust what He is saying to be real that makes it is so effective. The first time it happen was with the man who introduced the lifestyle to me. W/we played in private. I was tied up and blind folded for more than an hour. my arms were behind by back, my legs were tied so they were spread apart, and i was placed on a church horse. The postion and time involved required trust and stamina, especially for a beginner. When the church horse was taken away a vibrator was used on my clit. it was intense, and i had No contol in the situation. i was getting very tired and i could feel He was putting something inside my vagina. He took the blindfold off and was in front of me with a string in His hand. He asked me if i was ready. It was obvious he meant ~ was i ready for him to pull the string. I told him i was. He told me it was going to hurt. i took a deep breath and told him i was ready. He looked me in the eyes and told me it was going to hurt. At that point i thought i was F**ked. there was NO way out except straight ahead. when He pulled the string the balls gave me such a release of PLEASURE. it was like nothing i had ever experinced before.

Recently my Dom and i were at a play party and i was tied to a bed. He was using an electric wand. There are a lot of neat atachements. The hand held attachment makes any metal object a toy. i don't know how long i was there, but near the end when He was using an attachement He had touched me with it 3 times before i realized there was no electricity attached to it. my thought was "Son of a ...."
there are other's but those are the 2 that stick in my head as the most memorable

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