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SweetlyMisguided -> Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/14/2004 9:48:44 AM)

After reading about the first experiences of many others... I got to thinking of my first experience with Master...

It hurt... It hurt like hell... And he stopped... He didn't force the issue, but when tried again... it still hurt like hell, so once again he stopped... Plenty of lube was used, before hand was great... but it still hurt...

Now because of that, I know he WANTS it... yet is reluctant to do it/try it again. He doesn't want to force the issue due to traumatic issues... But by damn... I want to please him, and in pleasing him, giving him something I have never freely given another access to.

I'm sure I could say "Master please ass fuck me" but i would be met with a weird lookand a "Is that what you really want or are you just saying it because"... Yet honestly... It's something that I want to try again, not for my pleasure, but for his as I know it is something that he greatly enjoys...

So... in your relationships... How do you go about broaching something like this when they are clearly afraid of forcing the issue or causing the pain due to ones past? What are some good communication comments that I could use to help him understand this a little more...

And better yet... what the hell can I do to make him realize that it's ok if I cry/hurt/whimper during this? I'm a big girl... I can deal with the pain... and if it makes him happy, then in the end... regardless... I am sure that I will be happy... (even if my ass is a little sore)...

But on second thoughts... suggestions beside the norm LOTS of LUBE and foreplay would be greatly appreciated.

Cari




perverseangelic -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/14/2004 9:57:37 AM)

This is -exactly- how I am about anal sex. I just plain dislike it, but my partner really likes it, so I'm doing my best to make it work.

I really -do- want to try it untill it works better, not because I like it but becuase he does. To this end, I tell him how much I'd like to keep trying. I tell him, too, that some expressions of pain are ok, and probably normal.

I guess my biggest thing is communication. TELLING your parnter that you want it, and that some hurt is ok.

I assure my partner that I really -do- want to keep trying, that the though of making it work arouses me a lot (it does) and that even though it scares me, the scaredness makes it good, too.

I focus on "I" statements, which sound self-centered, but don't make your partner feel like you're doing it for him.

As for the pain, I find that asking him to hold still, and controlling the motion yourself, make is easier for my partner. If he isn't the one moving, he knows that I'm making it hurt myself, and that I wouldn't do more than I can handle.

As for sugestions to making it work, no idea.




proudsub -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/14/2004 11:07:16 AM)

It might help if you wear a butt plug for an hour or so before you start, to stretch you out some.[:)]




dally -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/14/2004 11:17:30 AM)

the key to anal sex is lots of lube and relaxation! If you do not completely relax it will hurt. My former Master use to lube me really well, inside and around, he's insert his finger first and have me relax. He would use A & E i think it'sd called? i forgot, it's been a while. : )





dally -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/14/2004 11:19:22 AM)

wanted to add something else....at first it will hurt, but once that initial pain is over you will begin feeling more pleasure than pain as you relax and your muscles loosen.




alwayzron -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/14/2004 1:14:13 PM)

quote:

I focus on "I" statements, which sound self-centered, but don't make your partner feel like you're doing it for him.

Actually ... using "I" statements are the key to communication, as it 1) makes you take ownership of your emotions and 2) keeps your partner from taking the defensive. Examples ....

You need to keep trying <whatever> until it works.

or

I would like to keep trying <whatever> until we make it work.




HadesJester -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/14/2004 5:31:19 PM)

As someone mentioned already, try fingers for a while until you get used to it. One then two fingers then maybe try small vibes/didloes until you are comfortable.




velvetvixen -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/14/2004 8:48:34 PM)

Yes, you should open the discussion with your Master about your feelings on ass play. If he wants it, he should be quite pleased to talk about it.

It took Master 2 years to work from one finger to his hand. When Master wants my ass, I have to f*ck his hand, so I control how fast it goes in. It just takes lots of time (and I have to say it LUBE) and trust so that I was sure that my ass wasn't going to be shredded. Also used graduated butt plugs.




lyrics2004wi -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/14/2004 9:27:55 PM)

the first couple min always hurts but after that its easy going




inadazey -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/14/2004 11:15:53 PM)

HATED anal sex until my current partner... not sure what the difference is with him, but he can make me really love it. It's best for me when we go from regular sex straight to anal... I'm so worked up, aroused, and relaxed at that point that when he switches, he can do it really hard and i just love it (although i hate to admit it!! *L*).

Funny thing is, though, that when he starts when it's not straight from one to the other, I always get this little scared feeling.. "like, omg, this is gonna hurt.. i'm not gonna like it." That's probably due to my past experience with it.

I think you can learn to like it, at least based on my experience. And I do recommend at least trying going straight from vaginal to anal, especially after you've cum. Just tell him that you want to do it, that you want to learn to like it, and that you'll tell him if it's not okay, so that he can stop, and he won't worry about hurting you. Good luck!! :) ~daisy~




Suleiman -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/15/2004 7:53:05 AM)

When it comes to broaching the subject with your top, some times the best method is just candid honesty. Tell him that you want to try again. You've been doing some research, and while it's still a little scary, you want to keep going until this is something that you can do for him.

As to actually taking it in, Personally, I enjoy the fact that it occasionally hurts like hell. While honestly more service oriented than masochistic, I have a tremendous ability to endure and enjoy pain - as long as I'm allowed to whimper, cry, or otherwise suffer through it. I can actually stoically endure it as well, but that's no fun and involves simply shutting off my awareness of my body.

First and foremost, you need to learn to quell your anxiety. I remember the first time I got fisted, I was so nervous that my arm fell asleep - I was so nervous, I constricted the blood flow to my arms by tensing up my biceps. Which leads me to the next thing. Isometric control. Even after you've mastered your basic fear and nervousness, there's still the fact that, in all honesty, god didn't intend for things to go in that way. What I'm about to tell you is kind of gross, but it's the only way I've ever been able to clearly explain how to isolate the muscles in your anal sphincter:

Pay close attention the next time you take a crap.

That's the only time your sphincter muscles release. Learn that sensation, pay close attention to what you do and how you do it. Later, either alone or the next time you convince your dom to try again, start out with a single finger and a little lube. Focus on the muscles there, and try to grip the finger. You'll find that tightening up is much easier than releasing, that's okay. This is just practice for learning to control the muscles. When you work up to a second finger, try to release as it comes in, exactly as you would if you were on the toilet. Grip as it slides our, release as it pushes in. It's a little difficult for most people to get the hang of, but once you do, you'll be able to accomodate objects of almost any size, given a little time and patience.

My wife, unlike myself, is no fan of anal insertion. Oddly enough, in her case, fingers and toys just make it worse. Her discomfort is far more emotional than physical, and a slow buildup just gives her time to think about what's going on. She gets upset at the idea of something going in there, and then she tenses up. I find the best way to keep her able to accomodate even my modest self is to mantain a high state of arousal. Actually, that's true for me too. Being turned on really does make the whole process easier. Being too turned on to really think about what's happening, but rather to simply react to it, is the way my wife has found to enjoy- rather than simply endure - my occasional need to bugger her.

You may also want to try some of the new warming lubricant that's being touted. I find that it tends to help muscles to relax and stretch when they might otherwise be unwilling to do so on their own. Or, if it turns out you enjoy chemical play, move up to something a bit more intense such as tiger balm (make sure to test a little bit first to gauge how you react to it).

Any way, I'm sure you can find tons of advice, here and elsewhere. There's a couple of other anal sex topics posted just this month, and many more in the archives.

~S




areacode613 -> RE: making it easier (12/22/2004 1:58:09 PM)

One thing I have not heard mentioned is a method that greatly reduces pain. If the person receiving the anal intrusion is on their knees; ie doggy style the man should push down with his penis as hard as he can when entering. This helps get him by the curve of the anal wall. This is when most of the pain occurs ie at entry and why most people feel fine onece the penis is all the way in. This method works very well. The only other advice I would give is entry should be very, very slow and take up to a minute. Then rest a bit before thrusting. This gives the lower bowel time to adjust to it's new fullness and will ensure that no damage is done. Most partners once fully penetrated slowly will find they are quite comfortable at this stage. Now it's stime to talk dirty and have fun!




proudsub -> RE: making it easier (12/22/2004 3:43:59 PM)

Here's a letter to "Great Sexpectations" in a readers' comments issue that caught my attention regarding anal sex:

Carmen,

I would like if you could pass this on to your readers that
are uncomfortable with the thought of anal play. I have been
trying for a few years to get my wife into some kind of anal
play, both giving and receiving. I KNOW how good it feels
from previous experiences. She has always thought it was
disgusting. In the past, if I tried using my finger on her
anus, she would quickly push it away. She does not like to
experiment very much.

About a month ago, we poured each other some wine and drank
a couple of glasses. I blindfolded her, loosely tied her up,
and told her I was going to 'have my way' with her. She was
lying on her stomach. I have a toy which is called the
'swizzle stick.' It's a thin anal plug device that looks
like a long flexible screw with a small bulb at the tip. I
lubricated it and while I was kissing her back and moving my
tongue further down to her cheeks, I slowly started inserting
it in the opening of her anus.

At the same time I was using a vibrator on her vagina. She
started saying, 'what in the world are you doing to me?!?!'
I thought I was hurting her and when I asked if I should stop,
she said, 'NO! What ever you are doing is incredible!' I pro-
ceeded to insert the toy almost all the way in her anus and
between that and the vibrator she told me she had an orgasm
stronger than she'd ever had before. She, for some reason
didn't even realize I had placed that toy almost all the way
into her anus! When I took off the blindfold, she wanted to
see what it was I was doing that gave her such an incredible
orgasm.

Anal play is almost normal part of sex now because she loves
the feeling. Now I just have to convince her to let ME be
on the receiving end!





slavedesires -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/24/2004 5:06:28 PM)


the first time i had anal sex, i was raped by a vanilla jerk moron who i thought i "loved"....he did that and the thoughts were immediately eradicated.

most women hate anal sex because of such past experinces or many equate it to "sodomy" in Scripture and it is a hardlimit just on "moral grounds."

i have never questioned the use of my ass as a slave or submissive. if He has taken my heart, mind ~ then the body is His.

Most women i have spoken to, even in lifestyle, insist on vaginal sex...the use of their pussy/cunt/kitty box...whatever! [;)]
i prefer the use of my mouth and ass.
i love to gag and have a righteous deepthroat technique, for which my gift is greatly appreciated.
but i love my ass pounded.
i begged a vanilla dude to take my ass and he had never done it before! omg the silly giddiness for him was like a kid in a candy store!
i told him to use my pussy as lube (i never need lube for my ass if i have deepthroated prior) and place the head of his cock at my tight pink hole. then slowly push in. i felt his head pop in and dang he squeeled like a pig and said something like ... "hot fuck! you ok girl?" my reply was "go for it!" He didn't want to leave...like a cady parked in a milllion dollar plush garage! [:)]

my advice?
the fear of anal sex cripples the pleasure you will receive and the fullfillment you give your Dom/Master.
the fear becomes an mental, emotional....psychosomatical barrier that will cripple the sheer enjoyment.
how you get over that fear is very individualistic.

for me? He had my heart, my mind, my will...my body was His and from the moment He placed His lips upon mine, my ass longed for Him.

shy[sm=tongue.gif]




nella -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (12/31/2004 7:03:20 PM)

I find anal sex to be werry interesting and arousing, partly becouse it somtimes hurt, it is far more psycological in a way then normal sex.




blueiii -> RE: Anally speaking... *and beggin and cryin and and* (1/7/2005 6:05:07 PM)

One thing that works for many newbies to anal is asking your Dom to position Himself behind you (you in doggie style position). Have Him hold His dick and ask if you can control the penetration by backing onto it with His guidance. You should be well lubed of course.

i agree with other writers on this thread, if you can get past the initial discomfort and relax, you will feel your ass enveloping Him and it will be an incredible experience.

blueiii




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