EvilGeoff
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5. When a sub is gagged, she can choke and is unable
to use safewords. Hand signals can be used, but don't
count on a sub to be able to use them.
Have the submissive hold an object in her hand. If she is so out of it that she can't hold the object and it falls out... scene over. Next...
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6. May subs go into sub space, and can't use safewords.
Never assume because a sub has not used a safeword
she is okay.
See the above hand signal...
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7. If you whip someone hard enough, they can die from a
heart attack.
If you fuck someone hard enough they can die from a heart attack. They can also die while swinging a flogger, or stroke out in their sleep. Yes, Virginia, there is a boogey-man to be aware of during scenes if you cause substantial injury or pain, but it's called shock (and it's a medical term, not electrical in this case), and it isn't the same thing as a heart attack. If the person you are playing with has a heart attack, they probably would've had it the next time they did something physically taxing anyway. That's a personal health issue, not a PLAY issue... NEXT!
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8. Negotiate everything ahead of time, and put things down
on paper so there can be no misunderstanding.
This also conveniently leaves evidence behind to be used in your divorce or criminal domestic violence case as we have had recently pointed out in the news and on several web sites...
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9. A first sesion should last no longer than two hours.
Depends on what the first session consists of don't you think? One of my first sessions consisted of talking, establishing psychological and emotional dominance, very little in the way of physical play and lasted all freaking night. That was more than 3 years ago and she wears my collar to this day. An arbitrary time limit is nonsense.
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10. Be careful not to tie a sub up in a position where they
have trouble breathing and can't say anything.
See the above hand signal
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11. Low current can be more dangerous than high current.
Don't play with electricity if you are not an electrical
engineer or pretty close to it.
Oh puuuhhhhhh-LEASE. Violet wands and TENS units are not exactly causing deaths or even extreme injuries except when people go off and do incredibly stupid things with them. Don't make a live circuit that crosses the heart. Do not play with live household or commercial (220 volt) current. Hell, you're more likely to get fried by your Hitachi Magic Wand than a battery operated TENS or your violet wand...
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12. There is no such thing as safe breath play. People
die all the time by accident from police choke holds,
and police are trained on how to safely employ
choke holds.
People do not "die all the time by accident from police choke holds". Very few deaths caused by law enforcement officers occur because of someone being choked. Far more people are shot by officers or killed in automobile accidents with a police car.
As someone who was a cop for 17 freaking years I can speak to THIS topic with some authority. Police officers, at least at accredited law enforcement agencies, are NOT trained how to "safely" employ choke holds. They are FORBIDDEN from employing choke holds, except when they are in a situation that justifies the use of deadly force BECAUSE of the substantial risk of death or grave bodily harm that a choke hold poses. This is a liability issue and officers are NOT ALLOWED TO CHOKE OUT SUSPECTS EXCEPT WHEN THE OFFICER IS IN FEAR FOR HIS OWN LIFE. Period. Some departments might train officers how to do a choke hold, but no one is ever, EVER told that it is "safe".
Thirty years ago, yes, offers were taught to "choke out" suspects or put "sleeper holds" on them to subdue them while resisting. Some departments were even teaching this as a subdual technique into the 90's, but it is not SOP. Because of the huge rise in criminal cases from officer misconduct and because of wrongful death lawsuits brought by the families of people who died when being choked out, it is now a tactic of last resort.
More suspects die from cases of "positional asphyxia" than from "choke holds" being applied. Positional asphyxia usually occurs when a suspect has to be physically restrained and is placed in a hog-tied position, face down, hands and ankles drawn sharply behind the back, the suspect is _usually_ obese. This places strain on the diaphram, compresses the body and the suspect can't intake enough air. Gradually they pass out, then will die from lack of oxygen if they are not found and released from the hog-tie position.
It is true - there is no such thing as "risk-free" breath play. There are very risky ways of doing breath play, and there are not-quite-as-risky ways of doing breathplay and then there are relatively-low-risk ways of doing breathplay. By relatively low risk I am meaning things like having the sub hold their breath as long as possible, on verbal command. They WILL eventually start breathing again, even if you forget to tell them to breathe.... or holding your hand over their mouth and pinching their nose closed and then holding your own breath, and not allowing them to breathe until YOU can't hold your breath any longer... There are other relatively low risk ways of doing breath play but I'll let you do your own research from here...
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13. Find out from a sub if there are any things that
might emotionally upset her, or cause flashbacks.
A good thought in negotiation. Good communication is a must. But people do not always remember past traumas, and you can still trigger emotional land mines
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14. Find out if your sub has any medical conditions,
and their treatment.
Ditto for Dominants - this is good in negotiations, a Dominant or sub may still have unknown medical conditions. Always play with the thought in mind that you might have to deal with your partner passing out. Subs, what are you going to do if DomlyDom keels over from a massive heart attack and you are already trussed up like the proverbial Christmas goose? Hmmm??
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16. Before you roast your [edited to add:] submissive over an open fire make sure to apply lots of olive oil. . . . just kidding.
Personally I prefer to baste with butter and garlic. Or use that really yummy turkey injector marinade...
Nothing personal, Whip. While some of the suggestions you made are fine, I can't let myth or mis-information stand un-challenged.
YIK,
- Geoff
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