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Tribute vs. Pro- what's the dif? - 8/12/2006 6:30:24 AM

WhiteRadiance

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I have noticed a bit of miscommunication/misunderstanding regarding Pro Dommes and thought I would raise this question:

What do you consider a Pro domme? Do you think those who request tribute to see/talk to them are Pro Dommes?

I will refrain from offering my opinion at this time.

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RE: Tribute vs. Pro- what's the dif? - 8/12/2006 8:14:36 AM

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LOL...
Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...No.

When I worked as a Part time Pro, I didn't even refer to My fee for service as tribute, although I noticed a lot of boys did. I called it a fee for service. It makes no difference to Me, and I do believe this is where a lot of the mix-ups between Lifestyle vs. Pro Domme vs. Financial Domme comes into play.
Anyone can make a profile and sit at a computer and demand tribute. Maybe they will get some money in a PayPal account and maybe they won't. Many people can demand a regular tribute and call if financial domination. It isn't really what makes for a successful domination scenario, except if all the boy wants to do is send money at his will and convenience when he feels like it. That doesn't require any discipline. It also isn't domination, IMO.
Few can meet with a client, in real time, and use mind and instuments to create a energy flow that, albeit temporaily, satisfies both Dominant and client.
Therefore, I do not identify the many profiles, which are often pointed to on this site as well as others, that sound bitchy and petulant and indicate that "tribute is expected", as profiles belonging to Professional Dominants, or even Financial Dominants. Of course, I believe that proper financial domination takes a lot more work on the part of the Dominant. It isn't simply a matter of demanding money. Therefore, these are simply gals who are trying to make a buck on the internet by saying they are a FemDom and posting a hot photo.

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RE: Tribute vs. Pro- what's the dif? - 8/12/2006 10:38:59 AM

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I have to agree with GoddessDustGold regarding Mistresses requiring tribute and those who are professional dominants. I suppose some Mistresses require a show of sincerity from the sub in the form of a gift, money, etc. In regards to professional domination and the Mistress requiring payment for services rendered, that is a transaction just like any other business arrangement.

I know this is a very volatile topic here on the boards but felt I had to voice my views as I see them. Paying tribute or session fees is not for everyone, so please allow those who wish to do so, to do it without criticism or judgement of others. That goes for the ladies out there who require tribute or professional fees as well. There is room for everyone in this wonderful subculture that we so dearly love to be tolerant of others.

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RE: Tribute vs. Pro- what's the dif? - 8/12/2006 1:08:52 PM

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Being a lifestyle domme for over 15 years I used to not charge a tribute but the amount of timewasters changed my mind. You spend hours getting ready both physically and mentally, preparing equipment and often travelling to the sub only for them not to show. A total waste of time. Now I only chat to and / or arrange a session with a new sub AFTER I have a postal tribute. This is fully refunded at our first session of course and is the only thing they will ever have to pay.

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RE: Tribute vs. Pro- what's the dif? - 8/12/2006 1:24:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyMari

Being a lifestyle domme for over 15 years I used to not charge a tribute but the amount of timewasters changed my mind. You spend hours getting ready both physically and mentally, preparing equipment and often travelling to the sub only for them not to show. A total waste of time. Now I only chat to and / or arrange a session with a new sub AFTER I have a postal tribute. This is fully refunded at our first session of course and is the only thing they will ever have to pay.

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ya know, I've never been a money domme, nor have I ever considered it...but after reading your post...that sounds like a wonderful idea...at least you would get something out of the time wasted and expense for travel. And after a no-show you won't feel as angry...LOL

hmmmmm...maybe I ought to rethink....lol

good for you LadyMari

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RE: Tribute vs. Pro- what's the dif? - 8/12/2006 2:02:48 PM

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Thank you ALL for your replies. I do not want this topic to get out of hand but felt it would help clear the air to ask this question. I certainly don't want this to be a bitch-fest and I appreciate your thoughtful answers.

[/quote] ORIGINAL: MistressKaren51
I know this is a very volatile topic here on the boards but felt I had to voice my views as I see them. Paying tribute or session fees is not for everyone, so please allow those who wish to do so, to do it without criticism or judgement of others. That goes for the ladies out there who require tribute or professional fees as well. There is room for everyone in this wonderful subculture that we so dearly love to be tolerant of others.
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RE: Tribute vs. Pro- what's the dif? - 8/12/2006 6:37:27 PM

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I charge by the hour for real life sessions only.
I will chat and talk on phone for free unless they call everyday then its a different story.
Some like to pay a monthly fee as they dont get to session often.

Tributes are anything from cash to Huge rolls of electrical tape...go ahead laugh
The tape is awesome for useing over plastic wrap
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RE: Tribute vs. Pro- what's the dif? - 8/12/2006 7:03:32 PM

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I think the term "tribute" evolved as a euphemism for paying a professional fee. As 99% of the pro-domme websites will announce, "domination is not not prostitution." I think the terminology was an attempt to maintain separation between the concepts.

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RE: Tribute vs. Pro- what's the dif? - 8/12/2006 7:43:10 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: WhiteRadiance

I have noticed a bit of miscommunication/misunderstanding regarding Pro Dommes and thought I would raise this question:

What do you consider a Pro domme? Do you think those who request tribute to see/talk to them are Pro Dommes?

I will refrain from offering my opinion at this time.

Personal interpretation --

A professional domina is someone who is in the business of domination. She charges money for a service that she competently provides in a safe environment. (She may call the payment/remuneration a tribute.)

A dominant woman who is not a pro but feels she's deserving of receiving money, gifts or whathaveyou because of her "social status" or position on the food chain in comparison to the sub male requests/requires/demands a tribute. More than likely, she's providing NO service, and is simply taking for the ability to take.

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RE: Tribute vs. Pro- what's the dif? - 8/13/2006 12:19:31 AM

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Pre the cyber world ... Mistresses charging for their services asked for this in form of a 'tribute' ...it could have been anything from a simple birch switch the sub/client knew the Mistress wanted, having spoken of loving such a thing in her collection, or as elabourate as $1500 per day for a weekend of total immersion...or as standard as a set fee per hour session ...

The 'tribute' label seemed to work in two ways, it negated the 'paying for play' connotations, not as most would rush to assume for the Mistress's benefit, but the clients ...that they were coming to see a dominant woman worthy of their respect...and the 'tribute' was paid as a form of appreciation of the skills and experiences she offered... and it was/is easy enough to weed out those who saw it as pay for play vs those who actually had a measure of understanding the dom/subservient dynamic taking place. ...kind of like bringing an 'offering'...

And secondly, the 'tribute' could be incorporated in the whole theatrics of the coming to see a Mistress ... I've done things like, telling them to they have to put the tribute in a red envelope to be put on a side table just inside my door, or for it to be in coins, or varying dollar units, and if they don't turn up with the tribute in the manner I require they were told to go away and sort it how I wanted it to be done ... the reality is, the money or whatever form of 'tribute' was in, is secondary to them following orders, and showing respect for me by actually following those orders. Some of the few I've turned away protested did it really matter, after all they had the money on them, to be told, yes it does matter ... you want pay for play, go see a bitch with a whip ...you want domination, you follow orders ...

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RE: Tribute vs. Pro- what's the dif? - 8/13/2006 7:31:34 AM

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Thank you Jasmyn for the history lesson. Very interesting!
I think the word "tribute" has become a mutation of it's former self. Now 18 year olds (or perhaps men posing as 18 year olds) with obnoxious attitudes are demanding "tributes" for nothing. The sad thing is that there are (not so smart) men out there sending them money.

I had a sub approach me in an IM and asked if I required tribute to speak to him (in an IM). I said "why would I require tribute to talk to you?" he replied "To see if I am worthy" I asked him how he knew I was worthy to speak with him. He replied that he had never thought of that!

He didn't know me. I could have been a man or a toad but he would have sent me that money had I asked him to prove his "worthiness". There is no excuse to be so gullible IMHO.

I love this line. you want pay for play, go see a bitch with a whip ...you want domination, you follow orders ...

EXACTLY.

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RE: Tribute vs. Pro- what's the dif? - 8/14/2006 4:02:05 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jasmyn

Pre the cyber world ... Mistresses charging for their services asked for this in form of a 'tribute' ...it could have been anything from a simple birch switch the sub/client knew the Mistress wanted, having spoken of loving such a thing in her collection, or as elabourate as $1500 per day for a weekend of total immersion...or as standard as a set fee per hour session ...

The 'tribute' label seemed to work in two ways, it negated the 'paying for play' connotations, not as most would rush to assume for the Mistress's benefit, but the clients ...that they were coming to see a dominant woman worthy of their respect...and the 'tribute' was paid as a form of appreciation of the skills and experiences she offered... and it was/is easy enough to weed out those who saw it as pay for play vs those who actually had a measure of understanding the dom/subservient dynamic taking place. ...kind of like bringing an 'offering'...

And secondly, the 'tribute' could be incorporated in the whole theatrics of the coming to see a Mistress ... I've done things like, telling them to they have to put the tribute in a red envelope to be put on a side table just inside my door, or for it to be in coins, or varying dollar units, and if they don't turn up with the tribute in the manner I require they were told to go away and sort it how I wanted it to be done ... the reality is, the money or whatever form of 'tribute' was in, is secondary to them following orders, and showing respect for me by actually following those orders. Some of the few I've turned away protested did it really matter, after all they had the money on them, to be told, yes it does matter ... you want pay for play, go see a bitch with a whip ...you want domination, you follow orders ...

I feel the same way..its not about the money or the amount...its whether they can follow a Request from their Mistress.I have also turned away offers of large sums of money because they didnt follow orders that and one threatend Me "what if I just show up anyway" My reply...how about we ask your wife to join us....
Then he was really pissed going to the Town and tell them a Volunteer Librarian was a Domme,who sticks her fingers up mens butts....Fortunately I archive everything...So I promptly sent any and all conversations we had,including the how about i just show up...I told him I can print them out for ya wife if you like....Needless to say...that was the end of that.

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