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serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/16/2006 8:49:05 PM

MsEmpwrspet

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i was looking to find out which side would you serve the food to a Dom/me? i am not sure which side, the right or the left. Thank You for any help that i am given

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/16/2006 9:07:58 PM

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If the food is served onto the guests plate, you do so from the left, if the food is already on the plates you serve the plate from the right.

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/16/2006 9:10:19 PM

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The food is served from the left and goes counter clockwise from the host at the head of the table. This site will give a very good description of a formal D/s dinner party and you can take it from there. http://www.sensual-service.com/essays.php?section=Ritual+Service&essay=41

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/16/2006 10:28:53 PM

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petcerina,

While there are some interesting concepts there are also some rather gauche things on that outline being presented as "formal". Also, allowing each dominant to decide when to be served in a formal dinner is going to play hell with serving food and I don't think it is workable. Lastly, that has zero to do with old guard or even right guard.

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/17/2006 3:59:43 AM

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From the Guest’s left side:
                        Present full plates and platters
                        Hold the platter when Guests help themselves
                        Clean the table of breadcrumbs with a folded napkin or crumber

From the Guest’s right side:
                        Set clean plates and clear used plates
                        Pour beverages

Regarding serving courses - you always serve everyone at the same time.   A course is finished when the last person is finished eating it - then everyones' plates can be removed, and you can progress to the next course.

Some books that are excellent resources for formal dining:
                        Dinner is Served
                        The Art of the Table
                        At Your Service: A Hands On Guide to the Professional Dining Room

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/17/2006 4:16:14 AM

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Served on the left
Removed from the right

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/17/2006 4:54:01 AM

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For additional questions regarding etiquette and dining you may reference Emily Post online. The full text is available at this site:

http://www.bartleby.com/95/

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/17/2006 6:51:12 AM

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'Served' from the left means that platters and dishes of food are presented from the left.

Plated food is placed on the table from the right of the guest and also removed from the right. (and always with the right hand)

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/17/2006 2:49:40 PM

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speaking not as a Dominant, but as a former Chef, I can tell you honestly all of the above comments are correct, except for wines, or drinks. All beverages are usually served from the right. Also, you may notice in movies, or on public tv shows, the waiter is always holding a wine glass by the stem, between the two middle fingers, fingertips never touching the glass. Reasoning is simple enough. No fingertips provides a more sanitary glass, as well as the perceived intention of giving the customer (Dominant in this case) a pristine glass. bottles of wine are never held by the neck, for the reasoning your hand is warmer than the wine itself, and will cause said wine to "heat" as it comes out of the bottle. This can be very detrimental to older vintages.

As to the set up of a formal dining setting (going left to right), appetizer fork, salad fork, dinner fork....... butter knife, teaspoon, sauce/soup spoon.
Plates (if food is served separately)... dinner plate, bread plate, soup bowl, stacked perfectly on top one another.
Glasses on the table: water glass to the immediate left, just above the salad fork. Next to it, slightly above: dinner wine glass. Above, and slightly between the two other glasses, dessert wine glass.

Last but not least... when serving appetizers, tray should be at neck height to all in room, except when said person wants something, then lowered only to waist level. In a crowded room, its impossible to serve from the left, but if all seated, try to...

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/17/2006 4:59:46 PM

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my thanks to those who have posted to this thread. Special thanks for the two links and MsSonnetMarwood and CreoleCook for their advice. This service is something that i must become proficient in, and i only have the most basic skills, some gained from watching the wait staff while dining out. my Goddess is trying to set up a schedule of monthly Teas, and i need to learn all the details of managing them for Her. Thanks to the OP for bringing up the subject.

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/17/2006 10:02:58 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: CreoleCook

Also, you may notice in movies, or on public tv shows, the waiter is always holding a wine glass by the stem, between the two middle fingers, fingertips never touching the glass. Reasoning is simple enough. No fingertips provides a more sanitary glass, as well as the perceived intention of giving the customer (Dominant in this case) a pristine glass.

I am so glad you pointed this out. One of my biggest irks when dining out is when I am handed my drink and the server is holding my glass with his/her hand clasped around the top of it. That is simply gross to me. (My next biggest restaurant irk is when salt & pepper shakers are sticky).

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/18/2006 6:42:19 PM

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Hello, i was given the assignment to figure out which side to serve a meal. i was taught the correct way in the past, but i have forgotten what i was taught. i was to ask a slave that is close to the family the question. i did not ask the person the question because i did not want the person to know that i did not know the answer. i took the arrogant and cowardly way by posting on here without permission. i would like to apologize to Mistress for disobeying Her by posting on here, fogetting what She has taught me, and for wasting Her time to teach me again. i would also like to apologize for wasting the time of all who have taken the time to respond to the post.

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/18/2006 6:45:42 PM

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when serving a dominant you serve from whichever side is their dominant hand...that way they can torture you while you are serving <weg>

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/18/2006 6:52:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: JessieMe

when serving a dominant you serve from whichever side is their dominant hand...that way they can torture you while you are serving <weg>

Gawd, isn't THAT the truth!

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/18/2006 7:33:27 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Elegant

'Served' from the left means that platters and dishes of food are presented from the left.

Plated food is placed on the table from the right of the guest and also removed from the right. (and always with the right hand)

According to Mrs. Beeton of "Mrs. Beeton's Book of Household Management" fame, serving on the right and removing on the right is correct. The Victorian in me would prefer to follow this method ~ 'tis rather an old book.

However, more contemporary standards instruct to serve the plate on the left and remove from the right; that was the standard at the 4 star restaurant where I served. I went digging in a few service books I have and both "At Your Service" (Culinary Institute of America) and "The Waiting Game" (Kirkham, Weiss & Crawford) both hold the standard that a plate is placed from the left, and removed from the right (and drinks are presented/poured on the right). I will note that they are both American books; I haven't expanded my collection to European books as yet and there may be some different standards (like salad before the meal vs. after the meal)

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/18/2006 10:23:40 PM

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Here is one of my favorite links...i hope it helps.

http://members.aol.com/SRABANDE/MastersDinner.html

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/19/2006 2:32:38 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MsSonnetMarwood

From the Guest’s left side:
                        Present full plates and platters
                        Hold the platter when Guests help themselves
                        Clean the table of breadcrumbs with a folded napkin or crumber

From the Guest’s right side:
                        Set clean plates and clear used plates
                        Pour beverages

Regarding serving courses - you always serve everyone at the same time.   A course is finished when the last person is finished eating it - then everyones' plates can be removed, and you can progress to the next course.

Some books that are excellent resources for formal dining:
                        Dinner is Served
                        The Art of the Table
                        At Your Service: A Hands On Guide to the Professional Dining Room

As always, you offer the most brilliant information! Thanks

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/19/2006 2:36:12 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: jonathan

my thanks to those who have posted to this thread. Special thanks for the two links and MsSonnetMarwood and CreoleCook for their advice. This service is something that i must become proficient in, and i only have the most basic skills, some gained from watching the wait staff while dining out. my Goddess is trying to set up a schedule of monthly Teas, and i need to learn all the details of managing them for Her. Thanks to the OP for bringing up the subject.

You may wish to learn japanese tea service, an absolutely amazing thing to see. Check out and see if any of your local universities have a japanese club and whether they do tea service training. Here in Philadelphia we actually have a traditional tea house AND a japanese club that offers training where most of our local submissive groups have "infiltrated" to get trained. http://www.shofuso.com/pages/pubictea.html is some information that might give you keywords to search in your own area.

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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/19/2006 9:45:51 PM

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Wow!
How hard was that to admit something like that to everyone!
Man! Thank god I have never had to do that.
Apology accepted!
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RE: serving food at dinner party with Dom/mes - 8/19/2006 9:59:33 PM

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Dear MsEmpwrspet, Ladies and Gentlemen,

You might have been in error for proffering the question but, in so doing; the benefit to others have been many.

It is always lovely to bring up proper service once in a while. We can all be refreshed in such.

Wait until you deal with where there are more pieces to the service, like bone dishes in addition to the bread dish. [Chuckles] As well as other branches of formal dinner services, settings and stemware. [Smiles] -- Formal dinners are so wonderful!

Respectfully submitted,
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