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Another Question? - 8/24/2006 7:18:29 AM

Mastersbrat1965

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Can someone clarify "online" sub or slave? How in world does this work? How can someone feel the "feelings" brought about the actions of the reality in a BDSM scene? I am realling curious about "online relationships" are supposed to work. How can a person know the other person is for real on the other side of the chat screen if you have not met them?

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RE: Another Question? - 8/24/2006 7:24:54 AM

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For some, it has to start somewhere, especially if distance separates the two. Two people meet, he's here, she's there, they can only communicate by computer, sometimes progressing to phone. There might be an intention of eventually getting together for a real-time relationship.

Or not.

For some, they only wish to create a power dynamic online. There probably has to be some sort of suspension of disbelief, in that you believe that the other person is who they say they are and that their intentions are as they describe. Surely you can see the danger in that.

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RE: Another Question? - 8/24/2006 7:40:02 AM

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After writing out a brilliant post, i'm forced to write it over again. Sometimes i hate my computer. This will be easy to answer because i was one a few years back.

An on-line sub or slave is someone who does BDSM on-line obviously and not in real life. However, they may or may not be doing the things that they are asked on-line in real life like they should. So how do you know if you are being told the truth? You don't.

All of it is based on trust. You must trust the other person and they must trust you. Without this trust, there is nothing. There were many times when i was asked to do something, and i did it and told them i did it, but they had no proof that i did or not except my word. Personally, i don't see the point in doing BDSM on-line if you don't want to follow the orders you are given once you are in it.

It's not possible to experience what BDSM is like in real life through on-line. It is a taste. A preview of what is to come. i had to do on-line back then because 1) i was underage, and 2) i wasn't ready for real life. But i did the on-line thing because i felt a pull to this Lifestyle before i even knew exactly what it was. i did it for the experience of following orders and for a trip to subspace. i am actually capable of reaching a subspace like state just through words and my imagination, but it's nothing compared to subspace when Master takes me there.

You can't know if the other person is for real or not. It's all about trust. You can even meet the person and still not know all the truths about who you are actually with. It is easy to lie and decieve on-line and you can get your heart broken very easily, but to me it was worth it. i hope this helps.

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RE: Another Question? - 8/24/2006 7:41:28 AM

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http://www.collarchat.com/m_428345/mpage_2/key_cyber%252Csubmission/tm.htm#428502
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http://www.collarchat.com/m_476851/mpage_2/key_cyber%252Csubmission/tm.htm#478112
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RE: Another Question? - 8/24/2006 7:55:14 AM

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I do not think that an online relationship has the "same" feelings as a real life BDSM relationship, and I know that no two relationships feel the same actually. The only thing that is possible over the internet are feelings when you come right down to it. I know people will say that those feelings are not "real", but that is a very arrogant attitude, because we cannot judge the realness or the unreality of someone else's feelings.

I communicated over the internet for a long time with my first dominant. I felt many feelings for him, he was a friend before I knew him as a dom, and I cared deeply for him. Of course being dominated in real life added a different aspect, but I had "feelings" before I laid eyes on him. There was a chemistry there. Alas it did not work out.

I think a lot of people cannot find someone local to them, so they experiment with Ds online, and it must be generating some sort of feelings in them or they wouldn't do it. Of course, like I said, it is "different", it does not mean the feelings are not real.

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RE: Another Question? - 8/24/2006 1:14:52 PM

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• How can a person know the other person is for real on the other side of the chat screen if you have not met them?

Quite simply, you cannot. There are measures one may take to ensure identity, but a "relationship" based only in IM windows, web cams and pixel text is, in my opinion, not a very substantive one. While it may have its depth for those who persue such interactions with heartfelt resolve, it is still missing an entire universe of natural dimension. These on-line methods are for communication, not to predicate one's relational foundation upon.

Any prospective I "meet" on the internet will be speaking with me by way of phone shortly, as I do not have the patience for writing transient and tedious novellas in order to converse. After a period of voice / internet-based communication, it is wise to meet and discern the soul you've connected with in a tactile and animal sense—and live out one's vision in the flesh.

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RE: Another Question? - 8/24/2006 1:39:37 PM

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It doesn't take too many online meetings or phone calls to determine whether the person is sincere and honest or just gaming you. The ones that are not honest eventually slip up somehow due to their deceptions.

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RE: Another Question? - 8/24/2006 3:51:19 PM

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Can someone clarify "online" sub or slave? How in world does this work? How can someone feel the "feelings" brought about the actions of the reality in a BDSM scene? I am realling curious about "online relationships" are supposed to work. How can a person know the other person is for real on the other side of the chat screen if you have not met them?

I believe the name itself provides a good explanation for what it implies. It is simply someone who chooses to engage in relations of this nature via the internet. This may include additional contact on the telephone or eventual meetings face to face, but that isn't always the case. I have reached the point where I don't attempt to understand or criticize this phenomenon. As with all things it is merely another way of relating that works for those that employ it.

Deception is a universal occurrence and we all are subject to it regardless if that person is near or afar. In every instance an individual is only as real as they permit themselves to be and allow you to experience. Meeting someone in person does not prevent heartache, mistruths, or any of the other negative situations that may occur when interacting this way.

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