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Mistress, knows best :) - 8/24/2006 7:04:24 PM

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Hello All,

Firstly again I wanted to say hello to all, and express my thanks for those who have been so kind as to answer my questions and offer oppionions in the past...

This evening I was wondering... Have you ever taken something away from a slave that he cares about... What I mean is that I continue to offer myself, to an Owner in the fullest and most complete way... As a result, if she said, never eat a burger again, or never watch ("hockey") my favorite... Or just don't do something again... whatever it is..
To me the complete sacrafice is "wonderful" and "scary".... But still I beg of my owner... Take something away, that would make a lifelong difference.. No "beer", No "tuna fish".. No... video games... I am willing, and in fact happy to make the sacrifice in her honor...

Hope this makes sense... :)

Thanks again... Best wishes to all...

RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/24/2006 7:16:11 PM

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There was a forced vegetarian thread on the general board you may want to look up. My submissive/puppy can no longer eat beef, unless he is with me (which is not often enough for him, lol). But demanding that "sacrifice" of him was a no-brainer, once I saw his cholesterol report.

*edited because my smiley of choice didn't work.

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/24/2006 7:37:25 PM

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stinky...the martyr can be a powerful archetype. In it's beauty, something is given up by one person so that another person can be enhanced. In it's shadow, the martyr can use suffering to manipulate. Be aware of yourself and concentrate on the beauty and it will be well done.

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/25/2006 8:22:29 AM

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The only things I would consider taking away are things that undermine our hierarchical dynamic (Fox is not allowed to say "no" when I give him an order but he still has safewords for his protection) or things that are self-damaging (such as cutting or drinking too much alcohol).

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/25/2006 9:39:02 AM

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I would not take away something that My girl loved, unless it was something that's destructive to the person, soul, or relationship. Such things, after being removed from her, would soon be seen for what they are, not really something that she loved but something that she used and grew attached to because of the purpose that they served.

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/25/2006 11:00:51 AM

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I thought I replied to this already but I must have not hit submit DOH

I would not take away something just because I could. I would only do so if it was something harmful to the sub or to the relationship as others have also stated.

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/25/2006 5:46:40 PM

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I want my submissives to pursue their passions. When they do things that they love, they bring more life into our relationship. So, I would be hard pressed to take anything away from a submissive permanently.

Having said that, I have one hard and fast rule. No sub of mine can root against the Steelers -- not ever. : )

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/26/2006 9:23:15 AM

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I appreciate the ideas...

I suppose the underlying desire is not really that I am having something taken away... I just enjoy the thought of sacrificing something for my Mistress. Even when it is something that I would otherwise enjoy. That being said, I agree with very much with the idea of curtailing some poor habits... Like the odd beer to many... :) hiccup...

I think it's much like here ability to control my orgasm through a chastity device, except now she is exerting control over another area of my life...

Thanks agian,
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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/26/2006 10:27:52 AM

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I think that giving up things you enjoy or sacrificing things is almost an intergral part of being a slave. I know Fox has given up a lot of his privacy, he gave up better job opportunities and he gives up the freedom to just go out whenever he wishes as my slave.

I don't feel like I took those from him though because we either negotiated things or he made the decision on his own that I was more important than other things. Which I think is very sweet and loving of him.

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/26/2006 2:46:21 PM

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I was once owned by a woman who constantly indicated that she was going to be taking away certain aspects of my life that I enjoyed, just to serve as a reminder that she was to be more important to me than any of my other pursuits. She never did. I discovered that her desire to remove things from my life that I enjoyed was actually a fantasy she had, not something she ever consciously intended to carry out. She turned out to be way too nice to ever do such a thing, so for the most part, she maintained the fantasy of planning to do such things, keeping it on the edge of our relationship so that I would suspect it might happen at any moment.

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/26/2006 2:49:56 PM

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I would not allow my slave to drink alcohol - except for maybe special occasions, which is about the only time I drink, and then rarely more than a glass or two.

And as I am trying to become a "healthy" eater - I would not allow junk food.

And taking something away, temporarily, from a slave that they really love/enjoy is a good form of punishment. Likewise allowing the slave to have something that is normally banned or rationed is a good reward.

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/27/2006 12:29:10 PM

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I would have to consider what was being removed ... as long as it didn't harm My slave, or was the oposite ... by taking away, it helped him/her, then the skies the limit. As stated, this is also a very effective form of punishment. I have taken away junk food when the slave was this side of obese.

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/27/2006 2:26:14 PM

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/29/2006 12:36:45 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: ladylexington
Having said that, I have one hard and fast rule. No sub of mine can root against the Steelers -- not ever. : )

E - A - G - L - E - S!!!! LOL

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/29/2006 1:03:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: zzzstinky

This evening I was wondering... Have you ever taken something away from a slave that he cares about... What I mean is that I continue to offer myself, to an Owner in the fullest and most complete way... As a result, if she said, never eat a burger again, or never watch ("hockey") my favorite... Or just don't do something again... whatever it is..
To me the complete sacrafice is "wonderful" and "scary".... But still I beg of my owner... Take something away, that would make a lifelong difference.

Yes. I took away the option of him eating meat, for at least as long as we are together, so assumedly for the rest of his life if all goes well.

I also took away the option of him having any say over his orgasms, yet again indefinitely.

And while I didn't totally take this away, I limited his access to playing video games.

I also took away any recreational ah "smoking".

And lets see... sexual contact with other females, at least for now.

I think he also found it to be wonderful and scary.

~ Additionally I limit his access and freedom with a lot of other things: alcohol, caffine, junk food (not because he is fat, he is actually incredibly fit, but more so because I want to him to have plenty of nutrients and vitamins, rather than over processed and to varying degress, toxic foods)

About the only thing he gets unfettered access to are things that directly positively affect our mutual, and seperate lives. So this would be: work, school, studying, various self improvement, music, chores, learning about specific topics of interest, serving me, etc.

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/29/2006 2:21:22 PM

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/29/2006 2:22:41 PM

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/29/2006 2:23:45 PM

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/29/2006 2:24:46 PM

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RE: Mistress, knows best :) - 8/29/2006 2:25:55 PM

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