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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/3/2006 3:01:46 PM

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Well, okay, have it your way. I can either sell tickets, or you can allow me to not watch. Because, understandable as it is, I do think these things can become a spectacle. Not pretty. But - everybody ain't the same. And I have been genuinely angry at someone who has posted here once or twice (just not this time).HUGs.

Peace. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for ...Let he who is without sin...etc., etc., and so on and so forth, ad infinitum. Amen.

- Susan

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/3/2006 3:24:44 PM

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Well, okay, have it your way. I can either sell tickets, or you can allow me to not watch. Your choice. HUGs.
Peace. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for ...Let he who is without sin...etc., etc., and so on and so forth, ad infinitum. Amen.

- Susan

*hugs the good lady and bellows out a few bars of Koooom- byyyyyyaaaaa*

I choose peace as much as I feel I can.

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/3/2006 3:29:08 PM

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Level: I already know that about you. I do know that there are people with whom I have had a genuine and honest-to-goodness communication gap, no matter how much I tried to explain myself. It has, once or twice, made me so frustrated, I've just thrown up my hands (figuratively) and ended the discussion. I thought they were doing it on purpose, but then I thought about it and realized. No. They honestly do not understand what I am trying to say, even if I've tried about ten different ways. They simply cannot do it, for whatever reason. I don't think Whip is one of those, though. I think he's pretty bright. But I do think he is maybe over-sensitive to feeling hurt. I am thinking this only because I can be that way, too (I just don't usually say much about it, except in extreme cases, and then only in private, to someone I trust). Anyway, I do get what you said, and one thing someone who is over-sensitive does at some point need to realize (if they may not) is that other people can also be as sensitive - and I am sure you were offended by his remarks, and I can see why.

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/3/2006 3:46:43 PM

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Your sensitivity also comes along with a good heart .

It wasn't so much that I was offended by Whip, but his reaction gives me a clue about him. Maybe he was just having a bad day, or maybe he was saying it with a smile, so to speak. I tend to think not, seeing some of his other posts. One things for sure, whether he's a conniving ass, or the harginger of peace lol, I'll sleep well tonight, not much on CM will overly bug me, life is too short.

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/3/2006 4:42:18 PM

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I am glad for that. You deserve your peace!

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/3/2006 5:05:04 PM

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I find it amusing that implied in your letter is the concept that while MALES cannot be submissive other than just for a short period, of course FEMALES can. And that the natural state of being is Male Dom/Fem sub - anything else is just for play.   Have you ever heard of Gor?

Sorry - that is a bit facetious, but you seem to be complaining that because you like to bottom (ie: enjoy a few sensations that are submissive) that you are seen as a fake. One thing you might do is try to separate your concepts of S/M from D/s. The two are really not the same. I personally identify as a slave, my Sir is not ever gonna be a sub, not even for a moment. That works for us.   However, I am also sometimes a top. (Not to Sir, mind you. He has no interest in being a bottom either! LOL) But I am very good and known in my area as a good cane top, and also for impact play and other S/M fun things.

This does not make me any less a slave, or any less a submissive. It also does not make me a Domme or a Mistress. In the S/M world, I can switch with ease. In the D/s part of my world and brain... I do not switch.

I have a friend who is a Switch.... both in the S/M realm and the D/s one. He is definately not fake. He is real and honest in his relationships, no matter what the dynamics are.

But he, like my Sir and I, also distinguish between D/s and S/M.   Maybe that is part of the key.

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On another note, regarding cynical assumptions. I am actually a fairly cynical person. When I meet someone, I rarely believe they are "who they present" themselves to be. I wait for them to demonstrate their personality.   My Sir is far more accepting. Which means I am seldom disappointed by people, while he often is.

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RE: Cynical assumptions. - 9/4/2006 10:35:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: SusanofO
WhiptheHip: I just got round to reading this thread again, and appreciate your comments on this page. It's comforting to know. I am not sure if it's being part submissive I want, or if I just want to know a Dominant can have a "softer side" once in a while, and "let go" of any rigidity in their personality every so often (if
it's there, which I think I've seen it is, in some Doms). Anyway, I am talking to myself again...- Susan

Thank you. Like most things in the real world, few things are really 100% pure.
In the real world there is almost always a spectrum and a continuum. Dominance
and submission would fall some place on a bell curve. A few people are going
to be at the extremes. Someone in the top 2% would be in the second standard
deviation. It is virtually impossible for someone to be 100% dominant or for
that matter anything in this world to be 100% pure anything.

Few males or for that matter few females have the soft side I have. On the
other hand, I've been accused of having a Napolean complex. I'd like to see
the world become a kinder, gentler place, and would use force to do it if I
could. The world might have become a better place had Napolean
conquered it.

I really can't work for anyone because I always need to be the leader, but
few employers try as hard as I do to make their employees happy.

My father was a self-made millionaire who ran a half-dozen businesses.
My mother was young, beautiful, and bi-polar. She had been his secretary.
Even though my mother was super loving, there were times my father
could be more loving than my mother. My father had a business side,
a head of the family side, and a very, gentle, loving side that is normally
reserved for the kind of love only given by a mother. I lack a lot of
thoughness my father had, and a lot of the loving, gentleness he had.

Whip, I think you may be right about that.
I said that I'm "100% Dominant" but I also like to bottom once in a while.
Would that make me "98%" Dominant?
I do like bottoming because the crack of a slapper hard on the ass and the sting it gives "does" feel good, I have to admit that but also being tied to the bed and spanked real hard gives me an idea of what a sub/slave feels when I have them tied to the bed and I'm spanking them real hard.
Hmmmm, "empathy."
Yes, you're right about nothing in life "being 100%". I missed that point somehow.
Now, be nice to KY and Benji, we like them.

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