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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 12:51:23 AM   
slave4Darby3d


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Status: offline 		I am the other side of the same coin -

a white submissive (female) with a Black Master (Male).  and totally loving it...

the contrast is certainly VERY sexy to me -  but the submission to HIM, and whatever he desires, is downright intoxicating.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 2:10:32 AM   
mons


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when i do go to the master or doms fourm i still found you guys so damn sexy if my trust level was not what it i would but no i do not trust anyone. but i do find you white doms so fine as we say lol but i spoke to on long time ago but i was scare silly now i understand what this is about in been here for some years now oh not in cm but in the lifestlye i understand and just for reason i know of only one white male was kind to me as a child i was dirty poor but he saw what a great artist i was as a child and he never tried to hurt me i love him and to this day i adore white males with blue eyes and dark hair, he was so kind me to when no one else even my father my brothers and all of the black males around me abuse me he did not, no all black me are like this no way, but the fear was put into me years ago and he still there. i am not attractive to them sexually but as man they are ok. you be surpise why you may like this type of person white or black. i thougth of why and i thought it would be a good ideal to write and say why . the white males i have have always treated me with respect and honor and like a queen. in my family my niece is a domme my sister who passed was one two so three of us it was funny my niece telling me her husdand screaming lol i will not say why but he was in joy is he is white.
 
so i wrote this to tell you how i come to date white males it was a kind jesture to a poor dirty child no one love.
 
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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 7:59:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Yeah, it's cute, except I think it has to be incorrect, right?

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Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.


"Cardia" can't be right. The Latin word for heart is "cor," which would be "cor" in the accusative; "cardia" is a Latinized Greek word, but it's feminine, so it would have to be "cardiam" in that sentence (and even that would be very weird as Latin).

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Love the Latin quote, Lorelei11.


I took it verbatim from a Terry Pratchett book, so all latin errors belong to him.

And knowing Terry Pratchett, he probably did it on purpose to give people like you something to pick at.


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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 8:13:18 PM   
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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 8:57:52 PM   
EbonyFtshGoddess


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Status: offline 		why does it seem any thread deailing with race or ethnicity of any sort always turns into a pissing match?

i think the initial question has scarcely even been dealt with.

one thing i really detest about fora is the "one up' quality of it. rather than an accurate sharing of views.

noirsub, i know of many white males that enjoy having an ebony submissive. before i had slaves/masochists i served for 3 years as a slave to a white male. what i noticed the most was that when we were at a play party or something people would always have more hushed hushed sorta whispers than typically evidenced by someone witnessing the same scene carried out betwixt an ebony domme and a white male sub or a couple of the same ethnicity.

i think this goes back to the obvious historical implications inherent in the past between white male *owners* and his black slaves.

with that being said, it never bothered me and still doesn't. i currently have a white Top and i'm sure we get the same responses that i first noticed 10 years ago- i just don't really give a fuck to notice them anymore.

i've had about 4 Tops my whole life and they've all been white. my preference is for white men for dating (has been since i was 15) and it's my preference for slaves or the rare Top to whom i decide to devote myself.

eh, take it with a grain of salt. you're going to have people offering their proverbially banal 2 cents worth all throughout life. as long as you're secure in your decision to serve whomever you choose to, and as long as they are secure in taking said ownership. then there really shouldn't be much of an issue from anyone.

good luck noir.. and lavish in your servitude.


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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 9:10:46 PM   
mnottertail


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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 9:43:58 PM   
EbonyFtshGoddess


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i just did a fast reply.. i wasn't replying to anyone in particular other than the intial querent

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 9:48:43 PM   
mnottertail


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Status: offline 		I am hep to that, many people out here will scare the shit outta you.
LOL,

Sie ist Catastrophische; Zoftig!!!!


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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 10:30:01 PM   
Lordandmaster


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ORIGINAL: Lorelei115

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Yeah, it's cute, except I think it has to be incorrect, right?

quote:

Cuius testiculos habes, habeas cardia et cerebellum.


"Cardia" can't be right. The Latin word for heart is "cor," which would be "cor" in the accusative; "cardia" is a Latinized Greek word, but it's feminine, so it would have to be "cardiam" in that sentence (and even that would be very weird as Latin).

quote:

ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Love the Latin quote, Lorelei11.


I took it verbatim from a Terry Pratchett book, so all latin errors belong to him.

And knowing Terry Pratchett, he probably did it on purpose to give people like you something to pick at.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 10:32:14 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		Should be obvious, no?  Issues of race and ethnicity bring out some of the strongest feelings people have.

On both sides, too.

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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess

why does it seem any thread deailing with race or ethnicity of any sort always turns into a pissing match?

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 10:35:52 PM   
FelinePersuasion


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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 10:41:26 PM   
EbonyFtshGoddess


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quote:

Sie ist Catastrophische; Zoftig!!!!


sprichst Du deutsch?

ich bin eine kluge Frau und es braucht eine Menge, damit ich mich fürchte..lol




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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 10:45:42 PM   
EbonyFtshGoddess


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Should be obvious, no? Issues of race and ethnicity bring out some of the strongest feelings people have.

On both sides, too.


obvious, yes.. warranted.. naaaah. how can we address the issue of ethnicity coherently when anything under the sun is always picked apart or interjected upon?

if such an issue is never spoken about, rationally, then it will ever remain an irrational thought or ideology.

eh. .such is life.


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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 11:37:17 PM   
EbonyFtshGoddess


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quote:

when I slip an fall from all the piss slick floors who do I get to sue?


that's fucking random




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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/14/2006 11:54:43 PM   
Lordandmaster


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Status: offline 		People rarely speak rationally about any subject.  Besides, this is a Collarme thread, not a meeting of Congress; people interject whatever they feel like interjecting, as they do in other threads.

Basically I agree with you that discussions about race, both on this board in particular and in American culture in general, tend to be unproductive.  But I don't think it's because our procedures are deficient.  I think it's because the subject is inherently divisive and emotional; also, it's inevitable that there's going to be a lot of squabbling about it, because the subject touches so many people.  People rarely squabble about chess or laundry detergent because those topics are not nearly as important.

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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess

Lordandmaster
quote:

Should be obvious, no? Issues of race and ethnicity bring out some of the strongest feelings people have.

On both sides, too.


obvious, yes.. warranted.. naaaah. how can we address the issue of ethnicity coherently when anything under the sun is always picked apart or interjected upon?

if such an issue is never spoken about, rationally, then it will ever remain an irrational thought or ideology.

eh. .such is life.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/15/2006 1:27:24 AM   
EbonyFtshGoddess


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People rarely speak rationally about any subject. Besides, this is a Collarme thread, not a meeting of Congress; people interject whatever they feel like interjecting, as they do in other threads.


silly me for thinking that  we, as adults, could speak rationally on a particular topic- race or not or whatever.

i just call it like i see it. and i read the WHOLE thread before i responded to the initial querent. i merely stated that in 5 pages of posts i saw only a handful of members posting ON the topic of her query before it transitioned into whatever.

such is life... and so be it. it happens.

still doesn't negate the fact that i can't see how we can speak about one thing without topic derailment.

*edited to add*

i also don't feel that the initial query was divisive or emotional (not saying you did either). i just think she was just asking a question or stating a fact she had noticed. she didn't, in my opinion, insert any undue emotion or divisive banter- that came subsequently.  it bounced so far off topic that the average person reading the last few pages would earnestly NOT have been able to decipher what the initial question was. that's my only point.

i do agree with you however, this isn't Congress, but it doesn't lack the cursory Congressional filibuster none the less.





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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/15/2006 9:02:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Noirsub

I find that the dynamic of serving my White Master is such a heady experience. I'm drawn, by nature to white doms and Masters. Though some Doms tend to be drawn to that "old south" dynamic, that really isn't my draw. I'm curious as to how many white Doms enjoy having a black submissive. My experience is that we are rare -- that there are plenty of submissive white men who enjoy serving a black female dominant, but that isn't me.

I'm curious as to how many white doms like black submissives out there!!

Let me here from you!
I wouldn't mind having a black sub/slave woman. But I'm not white. It's a dynamic I'm being drawn to more and more. I think it would be interesting, to say the least.

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 9/15/2006 12:27:24 PM   
Tamerofwild1s


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ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

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ORIGINAL: TreSwank
Most white women that I've known to date EXCLUSIVELY on the chocolate side of the spectrum  tend to be emotionally unstable, non-contraception-usin'  bastard factories. 


What a terrible place it must be in your corner of the world where white fems to black males are as you described.  I am a white fem sub to a black male Dom, but we have no children together.  I have some with my ex-husband, who by the way was of Asian/East Indian descent.  I have no problem with people being drawn to a particular race or ethnicity, it's up to that person as to what flips their switch.

I have always been drawn to darker skinned men, because I am so pale.  I love the contrast.  It's sexy to see hands entertwined, legs, arms, whatever and see how the light and dark stand apart from each other.  To me, it's aestetically pleasing to my eyes.  No one should be made to feel bad for the thing that makes them take a second or third glance.  There are many people who have written to me just because they have a "thing" for redheads.  I don't make them feel bad for that, it's their preference.   


Dammm .. glad I worked on my tan this summer ... might have to go hunt me a GERH 

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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 6:24:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Noirsub
I'm drawn, by nature to white doms and Masters. Though some Doms tend to be drawn to that "old south" dynamic, that really isn't my draw. I'm curious as to how many white Doms enjoy having a black submissive. My experience is that we are rare --

Hey Noir!

I've always enjoyed skin contrasts.  Black on White, White on Black, Oriental, etc.  Maybe it's just easier to see where 1 ends & the other begins :-)  I love a sub/slave who has darker skin ... compared to me, that's easy to accomplish (just call me Casper!)  I love olive skin, cafe-au-lait, or deep dark black ... and both mixed features or very ethnic features.  I can only guess that I got hooked on deep, dark tans while hanging out at the pool as a kid ... with my blond hair, I'd tan as dark as a dark Mexican ... and I loved the girls who were equally tanned AND showed a bit of bikini line. 

I'm sure everyone has just a scoge of racism, but that's not my game at all ... for me it's all about the color.  I'm quite willing to take white subs/slaves (and almost all of mine have been white) ... it's just that darker skin is a slight preference.  I won't take a beautiful black slave who is whacko over a white sub who is good ... but I would prefer a black slave over a white slave of equal compatibility to me.

Being a Dom, I realize that there are some black subs & slaves who want to play the big house/field slave scenario & I'm willing to do that.  It's not that hard, but that's not how I normally think.  I am not a shouter & don't use racial slurs ... not that I can't ... but I don't shout degrading things to white slaves either ... not my style.

Happy New Year!


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RE: BLACK SUBMISSIVE FOR WHITE MASTER - 1/5/2007 8:31:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Noirsub

I'm curious as to how many white doms like black submissives out there!!

Let me here from you!


Let me first say my kink isn't having a black sub but I've had such a relationship with a black woman, two in fact but then I live in an area where 90% of the locals are none white and the people I mix with on a daily basis are mainly none white.

I don't like to admit it but there is an exotic draw and given the politics of race at the current time in our culture it would be difficult to get away from that. However, once the relationship is underway that exoticism recedes into the background and you are left with two individuals.

Every race has its classic beauty where its own particular features are prominent and there is something to be appreciated about that and yes, I appreciated them and still do on occasion when she visits me in my studio. I loved the statuesque nature of her African form. I drew her an awful lot (amongst other things) and still enjoy looking at the drawings of her.

EDIT: Silly me for thinking this was a current topic.

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