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kittensmailbox -> Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/9/2006 6:48:04 AM)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060908/od_afp/netherlandsenvironment




sweetnurseBBW -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/9/2006 6:58:19 AM)

that sucks.




proudsub -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/9/2006 1:51:46 PM)

If they are that toxic why aren't we all sick? [:o]




diamonddreamlove -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/9/2006 4:41:08 PM)

What a way to go!




MistressWolfen -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/9/2006 4:43:26 PM)

too funny kittensmailbox, I was just reading this article earlier today on the EU site and thinking OOOOOO NOOOOO




kittensmailbox -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/10/2006 7:02:06 AM)

Death by vibrator!!!!  LOL, yep i agree, what a great way to go...




Pimpernell -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/10/2006 9:02:12 AM)

Oh, and only use lube made from baby seals as well.

That way there's no artificial chemicals.





DreamyLadySnow -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/10/2006 11:32:55 AM)

MMmm seal lube!
Hey we can use rubber, wood, acrylic, all kinds of things to make sex toys from. I hate those jelly types anyway.
Hell, we can even use the real thing on occasion!

heh heh


LS




Contesaluv -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/10/2006 11:49:25 AM)

Let's not lament after all the last paragraph says:

The substance is used to soften plastics and PVC plastic. Greenpeace stressed that a ban on phthalates would not mean the disappearance of people's favourite sex toys as there are plenty of non-toxic alternatives.

Well, of course there are, cucumbers,  plantains, carrots other food products.  Oh and then there's the usual in a pinch device called a "man's actual penis"...lol

Isn't nature wonderful to produce all these alternatives.  HA!




kittensmailbox -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/10/2006 7:15:27 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DreamyLadySnow

MMmm seal lube!
Hey we can use rubber, wood, acrylic, all kinds of things to make sex toys from. I hate those jelly types anyway.
Hell, we can even use the real thing on occasion!

heh heh


LS


LOL LOL but i want it done right the first time, sooo i NEED the toy... LOL LOL LOL ...  a girl can only fake it so many times




OriginalStuff -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/10/2006 9:08:31 PM)


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LOL LOL but i want it done right the first time, sooo i NEED the toy... LOL LOL LOL ...  a girl can only fake it so many times
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LOL!!  I couldn't have said it better Myself.  girl bought Me a key chain once that said something about what men do after sex -roll over and go to sleep...what women do after sex-  roll over and grab their vibrators.




Estring -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/10/2006 11:07:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: proudsub

If they are that toxic why aren't we all sick? [:o]


A great question. But you are using common sense, which is usually missing when these kinds of alarms are sounded.




onestandingstill -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/11/2006 9:16:40 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kittensmailbox

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060908/od_afp/netherlandsenvironment

Funny they don't mention how to tell if your toys would contain it or not.
It figures something not OK to be in a kids hand flew under the wire like this. Especially when it can effect your liver and kidneys & you use them right at the urinary opening to only help it get a direct link. I'll have to talk to my GN about this next visit to see what she suggests.




Moleculor -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/12/2006 6:17:55 PM)

Let me just copy and paste information I've been giving out on this topic:

Jelly anything is dangerous.

Some toys even claim to be silicone and aren't. Silicone IS safe. However, don't always trust the company who sold you the toy.

Cyberskin is, I believe, also dangerous.

Basically, if it smelled like a shower curtain when you got it out of the package (or if it smells at all, including added scents to mask the smell of the chemicals), it's dangerous.

Check the packaging as well. If it says 'for novelty use only', then it's most likely dangerous. That warning covers the company legally should you ever incurr damage to your system by actually fucking the toy.

One way I've been told that can test the toy is boiling it. If it ruins the toy, it was most likely dangerous. Some toys will disolve, others will become stretchy/goopy. This is because the chemical in question is a softener for plastic.

You can learn more by listening to this episode of the Sex Is Fun podcast or following the links at the bottom of that page.

You can't clean jelly toys. Not completely, anyway. They're porous, which allows all sorts of lovely gross stuff hide out and grow. In addition, they stain after a while. Any jelly toy you use for anal sex? It'll turn brown permanently over time. Disqusting.

Jelly toys DO give off chemical residue. It's evident every time you store them away somewhere and then take them out again. That smell. It's constantly oozing off of the toys in tiny amounts that can build up over time in an enclosed space. You might not be able to smell it if it's sitting out in the open for a while, but that doesn't mean it hasn't stopped oozing chemicals.

And why expose yourself to these chemicals in the first place? There's obviously enough of a danger to make the manufacturer feel they have to put a warning on the box that basically says "Not for internal use!" (which defeats the whole 'sex toy' idea) and you have so many other options. Latex, silicone, glass, metal, plastic. Those all work just as well if not better, and only latex has the potential to create an allergic reaction.

Why would you want to shove strange chemicals into some of the most vulnerable parts of your body when you can get the same, or better, effect from something far less dangerous?

Do I think that a ban is necessary? No. I think that a warning on the package should be required however. Which will, essentially, stop sex shops from carrying the toy at all, since why carry something no one will buy?

Greenpeace is by far NOT the first group to point out the chemicals used in jelly toys. They're just the most visible.

Also, here is another link from Violet Blue's site (scroll down about half way), which links to this, a Canadian story about a German scientist who studied jelly sex toys (and found that jelly novelties can give off up to 243 times the Canadian tolerable maximum daily exposure of phtalates).

Jelly toys ooze chemicals, slowly break down over time (yes, even as you're using them, both on your hands and inside of yourself), and can't be sterilized.

Why use them when you have so many alternatives?




michaelGA2 -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/12/2006 6:31:27 PM)

did someone get ahold of a "Bad Dildo"

LOL




Estring -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/12/2006 7:03:36 PM)

Why not just stay in a bubble all your life? I would love to know how many people have died or been poisoned by bad dildos? I would bet that it would be zero. When people start dropping like flies from these toys, I will take notice.





Moleculor -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/12/2006 7:19:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Estring

Why not just stay in a bubble all your life? I would love to know how many people have died or been poisoned by bad dildos? I would bet that it would be zero. When people start dropping like flies from these toys, I will take notice.




It's not death you have to worry about, it's birth defects and malfucntioning reproductive equipment.




Estring -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/12/2006 7:28:24 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Moleculor

quote:

ORIGINAL: Estring

Why not just stay in a bubble all your life? I would love to know how many people have died or been poisoned by bad dildos? I would bet that it would be zero. When people start dropping like flies from these toys, I will take notice.




It's not death you have to worry about, it's birth defects and malfucntioning reproductive equipment.



Well, show me one instance where this has happened? It just amazes me what people are afraid of.




PrimitiveLogic -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/12/2006 8:05:32 PM)

Has anyone thought about simply slipping a condom over top of a toy? or even one of those sheepskin sheath condoms if you have a latex allergy?
Warnings are something to focus your attention. Choice is up to the individual.
As I say to any decision : Fate is what the universe places in your path...destiny is what you choose to do with that possibility.

Prudence and safety often get shrugged to the wayside...but then again; as a former therapist and current  ER nurse, I've seen far too many bad decisions over the past 30 years. Just a different perspective to add here...but then again, it isn't my orfice either. Play safe in all spheres is the point of this thread. Not hysteria.




Moleculor -> RE: Sex toys contain dangerous chemicals says Greenpeace (9/12/2006 8:07:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Estring

Well, show me one instance where this has happened? It just amazes me what people are afraid of.


Fine.

http://www.ourstolenfuture.org/NewScience/oncompounds/phthalates/2005/2005-0527swanetal.htm

http://www.environmentcalifornia.org/environmental-health/stop-toxic-toys/phthalates-overview <-- Scroll down about half way on this one

Seriously man, just because Greenpeace has decided to start decrying phtalates along with other groups doesn't suddenly make phtalates less dangerous. Your reaction of disbelief is based on... what, exactly? It's not as if the FDA or any other group regulates or checks the safety of novelty items. They're novelty items, and NOT MEANT FOR SEXUAL PLEASURE. If you want to shove them into holes into your body for pleasure, that's your problem.

AS I SAID EARLIER, Greenpeace is not the first group to talk about the dangers of phtalates in sex toys. There are sex toy shops that outright refuse to carry such toys, and others still mention that using toys that contain them is probably not a good idea.




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