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onestandingstill -> Extreme sensation play. What's hot about that for you? (9/13/2006 6:58:15 AM)
Hello All, I've been wondering how many people enjoy the heavy painful sensation play for the sensation vs how many like it for other reasons. I am not in my opinion a masochist. I consider myself more of an extreme player. I may in time indeed get to the point the pain itself brings pleasure. Being I've only been in the life 2 years I have a lot more training necessary before I can say for sure one way or the other. Me personally, what happens is I HATE the painful sensation itself more often than not. I LOVE the erotic nature of it, attention, challenge, energy exchanged, and the fact it makes the Dom hot and pleased with me because I can take it. I also crave the specific painful play I don't like so much and often ache to play hard. I'm not sure if my approach and love of S&M contact is common or unusual. My questions are.... How many of you other heavy players find they feel like me as far as love the play, hate the specific sensations, crave them any way? and... How many other heavy players started out drawn to the more extreme play for reasons other than the pain but over time became masochists ? Thanks for your comments in advance, Suzanne

juliaoceania -> RE: Extreme sensation play. What's hot about that for you? (9/13/2006 7:28:58 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: onestandingstill My questions are.... How many of you other heavy players find they feel like me as far as love the play, hate the specific sensations, crave them any way? I am not a 'heavy player' according to my Daddy, who had an extreme painslut for a former submissive, but I am a masochist because I get off on pain. I have at times not 'enjoyed' pain play because my mind was elsewhere, and I was 'not into it' at that moment. This is normal for a masochist. If sex hurt when you were not aroused it would just hurt wouldn't it? If it hurt more than one time in a row then you might associate bad things with it. I have kept this in mind when pain play just hurt and I got no sexual pleasure out of it (has only happened once). I did get emotional pleasure anyways. quote: How many other heavy players started out drawn to the more extreme play for reasons other than the pain but over time became masochists ? I am kinda wondering what you define as a 'heavy' player. I am a masochist so this does not apply to me. To me the degree of pain one can endure is not a determining factor of the label masochist.. a masochist is someone that enjoys erotic pain and gets sexually excited from it. I do not know if it even needs to be the pain itself that needs to turn the masochist on, or if humiliation of it is part of it. Read wikipedia about this and you will see masochism extends to humiliation also. I think that many get confused when they the the term painslut means someone is a real masochist. Sure they are a masochist, but they are only one type of masochist. Pain tolerances vary from person to person. I do not like really heavy thud-type implements (although Daddy continues to use them on me), I prefer stingy things. I am still a masochist though. I enjoy the way Daddy works me over because he is quite talented at making me pay attention to his beatings... hee he The thing is I crave being beaten partially because I am an endorphin junkie and I love subspace. Subspace can be very subtle in some people, and you maybe getting endorphin fixes and craving more. I crave going to the gym even though I do not enjoy working out... perhaps that is what is going on with you?

MasterFireMaam -> RE: Extreme sensation play. What's hot about that for you? (9/13/2006 7:42:15 AM)
Hello suzanne, The sadistic side of me is usually in the classic sense. I get sexually aroused by causing pain (to consenting adults). The heavier the play, the more I'm aroused. However, if I'm using it to do spiritual work, it because asexual…well...unless the spiritual work is sexual in nature (i.e. sacred sex). So, I suppose it's situational-appropriate. I give pain both for my own gratification and as a spiritual service…sometimes those are in the same session. The masochistic side of me seems to be the same way. There are things I know are sexual, like biting. Spiritual things, like cathartic flogging or ritual piercing, are asexual. There are things that are landmines and so they are neither spiritual nor sexual and are limits. I don’t simply “endure” pain for someone else’ benefit…I do it/ask for it for my own gratification. Master Fire

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Extreme sensation play. What's hot about that for you? (9/13/2006 7:50:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: onestandingstill How many of you other heavy players find they feel like me as far as love the play, hate the specific sensations, crave them any way? Yup, I love everything about the pain play EXCEPT the pain part. quote: How many other heavy players started out drawn to the more extreme play for reasons other than the pain but over time became masochists ? Plenty, in fact most peopple if they bottom long enough find they gain a level of masochism in time. Some don't however. http://www.collarchat.com/m_204732/mpage_1/key_except%252Cpain/tm.htm#204762 why experience pain and what motivates a sub to enjoy it? http://www.collarchat.com/m_284469/mpage_1/key_except%252Cpain/tm.htm#284905 masochistic vs non masochistic http://www.collarchat.com/m_428681/mpage_1/key_except%252Cpain/tm.htm#428697 masochism http://www.collarchat.com/m_514097/mpage_1/key_except%252Cpain/tm.htm#514099 is it the pain or the act of submission? http://www.collarchat.com/m_99877/mpage_1/key_masochism/tm.htm#99877 ds vs s&m http://www.collarchat.com/m_319334/mpage_1/key_masochism/tm.htm#319334 question on masochism #1 http://www.collarchat.com/m_319343/mpage_1/key_masochism/tm.htm#319343 question on masochism #2 http://www.collarchat.com/m_475218/mpage_1/key_masochism/tm.htm#475218 masochism and submission, is there a conflict? http://www.collarchat.com/m_344784/mpage_1/key_masochist/tm.htm#344784 good pain/bad pain...blurred lines? http://www.collarchat.com/m_221596/mpage_1/key_masochist/tm.htm#221596 sensation slut

mstrjx -> RE: Extreme sensation play. What's hot about that for you? (9/13/2006 8:13:14 AM)
I apologize if I'm lost in the wrong room. I'll try to make this quick. I'm the flip side of the OP, in my opinion. I don't bill myself as a sadist. Not to you, but more importantly, I don't think I fit the textbook definition of a sadist. But I will play as heavy as anyone, if the circumstances (the bottom) allow it. Both physically as well as psychologically. I've got the right sort of 'ouchy' toys, and I'm not afraid to use them. I'm not embarrassed or hesitant once the tears flow. I would respect safe words if they came up, but even in my roughest play it hasn't really occurred. I do get the typical power/control 'rush' during heavy play, but I don't think that as distinctly sexual, again more psychological. If my partner wants to be hurt, if they want or need the pain, I am easily able to accommodate. But I'm not certain that makes me a sadist.

Darke -> RE: Extreme sensation play. What's hot about that for you? (9/14/2006 4:45:32 AM)
Analogy I'm a Rum Ripple person : I do not like pistachio no matter what time of year, time of day, or who I'm sharing it with, or what movie we just went to see. :: I'm not a masochist : I in no cases like pain play, regardless of my state of mind, what time of the year it is, who I am with, or what movie we just saw. Labels, definitions. There are things we enjoy, things we don't typically enjoy, things we never thought we'd enjoy but stars aligned freakishly while we happened to be in the company of a unique person. It's needn't be how we define ourselves, or cause any cognitive dissonance...

OhReallyNow -> RE: Extreme sensation play. What's hot about that for you? (9/15/2006 5:18:44 PM)
quote: I've been wondering how many people enjoy the heavy painful sensation play for the sensation vs how many like it for other reasons. *this slave DISLIKES pain of any kind; for her the sensation is just that, very painful* *however, she endures pain for Master, and in doing so, is able to find enjoyment in the pain that Master inflicts.*

DivaDuchess -> RE: Extreme sensation play. What's hot about that for you? (9/17/2006 3:01:08 PM)
I lean more towards Sadist ... I love beating the crap out of someone, then sc*wing them till they scream as I smack them around. That's more a sample that would fall under a scene and not a typical evening, though one can hope lol* ... j/k. Anal play can be intense as well ... Public humiliation is another of my favorites ... In all that I don't consider myself a heavy Sadist. I respect safewords, when they are spoken and am very quick to soothe if I've gone past a line or come too close to it. It's a give and take and done only after LONG questions and answers between the slave and Us. To me a heavy Sadist is someone who gets off on administering pain just to do it and nothing but that matters. To Us ... the person receiving such a 'gift' ... matters or it's not worth it.

MasterNdorei -> RE: Extreme sensation play. What's hot about that for you? (9/17/2006 11:06:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: onestandingstill My questions are.... How many of you other heavy players find they feel like me as far as love the play, hate the specific sensations, crave them any way? i would never begin to put my level of play near what a heavy player can handle, but i can relate to hating specific sensations/activites only to find them hot as fantasies later. There are certain sensations i abhore while they are happening, but the following sensations are so yummy i can not resist begging for them... it is a dichotomy... Humbly, Master's dorei

yaqeta -> RE: Extreme sensation play. What's hot about that for you? (9/19/2006 10:34:30 PM)
quote: How many of you other heavy players find they feel like me as far as love the play, hate the specific sensations, crave them any way? A bit of both for me. Some painful sensations I love, and get off on for the sake of it. And when I'm aroused in the right way, that range is far broader. But some sensations, or particular sensations at other times, I don't like at all. But I love, and long, to endure them anyway - for service, for my Master's pleasure, or just to challenge and test myself. Much of the time during sm play I'm somewhere on the edge of these two states - desperately wanting it to stop yet simultaneously yearning for more. quote: How many other heavy players started out drawn to the more extreme play for reasons other than the pain but over time became masochists ? This is definitely the case for me. Over time I've become hooked on the ability to psychologically overcome the pain and turn it into pleasure - and do that with a particular sensation enough times, and eventually it is only pleasure right from the outset. I used to hate, and only endure pain. I remember a time long ago, for example, when hot candle wax was unbearable - now it is a delight.

Frank01 -> RE: Extreme sensation play. What's hot about that for you? (9/19/2006 10:48:06 PM)
Suffering is an aphrodisiac.

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