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sissifytoserve -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:14:07 PM)

Well.....to me the most hilarious "Story" of all is some guy in a Turban in a cave made NORAD stand down on 9-11.

But if a golfer (payne stuart) flys off course for 15 minutes (pre-911)...F-16 are right on his tail.

Yet 4....yes 4 planes were able to fly for 2 hours with their transponders off.....no fighters were scrambled.

Gee I wonder why.

Could be that "new pearl harbor" they need to get wwIII started.

Lots of money to be made.



StrongButKind -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:15:46 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

Many credible scientists, University professors and even people who work for UL (Underwriters laboratories) aren't buying the offical
GUB'NiNt cheese line anymore either.


http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhoAreWe.html


That list is awesome. Thanks for pointing it out. I'm thinking PM failed because they didn't employee any experts in Folklore, French, Cultural Studies, Education, Theatre, Linguistics, or Oriental Languages.

I apologize for not being clear enough in saying "credible scientists in a relevant field" that I meant to limit it to people who are, in fact, credible scientists, notably those who are experts in a relevant field. A review of the few folks whose titles on that page point to the potential that they might qualify finds a guy who sells stereos (listed as "Civil Engineering Structural Engineering"), a guy who runs a golf course, etc. I found one vaguely credible physicist or engineer in the whole lot -- he is an expert in fiber optics. So if there's a conspiracy theory involving manipulating telecommunications equipment, hopefully he wrote it. That list is fantastic -- thanks.




StrongButKind -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:20:09 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

Well.....to me the most hilarious "Story" of all is some guy in a Turban in a cave made NORAD stand down on 9-11.

But if a golfer (payne stuart) flys off course for 15 minutes (pre-911)...F-16 are right on his tail.

Yet 4....yes 4 planes were able to fly for 2 hours with their transponders off.....no fighters were scrambled.

Gee I wonder why.

Could be that "new pearl harbor" they need to get wwIII started.

Lots of money to be made.


From the PM report:

CLAIM:"It has been standard operating procedures for decades to immediately intercept off-course planes that do not respond to communications from air traffic controllers," says the Web site oilempire.us. "When the Air Force 'scrambles' a fighter plane to intercept, they usually reach the plane in question in minutes."
FACT: In the decade before 9/11, NORAD intercepted only one civilian plane over North America: golfer Payne Stewart's Learjet, in October 1999. With passengers and crew unconscious from cabin decompression, the plane lost radio contact but remained in transponder contact until it crashed. Even so, it took an F-16 1 hour and 22 minutes to reach the stricken jet. Rules in effect back then, and on 9/11, prohibited supersonic flight on intercepts. Prior to 9/11, all other NORAD interceptions were limited to offshore Air Defense Identification Zones (ADIZ). "Until 9/11 there was no domestic ADIZ," FAA spokesman Bill Schumann tells PM. After 9/11, NORAD and the FAA increased cooperation, setting up hotlines between ATCs and NORAD command centers, according to officials from both agencies. NORAD has also increased its fighter coverage and has installed radar to monitor airspace over the continent.



SirKenin -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:20:11 PM)

I can not believe someone is stupid enough to submit that a video on YouTube is fact.  haha.  That is priceless.

On another board we were expected to accept Google Video footage as fact.  Equally as bad.



Archer -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:21:13 PM)

Well those puffs comming out of windows in the big Towers are explained easily as the result of compressed air from the collapse blowing out windows in some places as the towers fall, that much falling material will displace alot of air. Along the lines of the bang a paper bag makes when you blow it full of air and pop it. Seen in slow motion that burst will look like a small explossion as well.




sissifytoserve -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:22:00 PM)

Oh...let me guess...

Your looking for IVY league credentials right?

There's a few of them there....you just didn't bother to bring them up....or the former Director of the Reagan "star wars" programs...
or the UT computer science professor.....or the former German Defense minister.....or the numerous architechs....or the math professors..or...well

theres no more need for me to make you look foolish.


http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/WhoAreWe.html



sissifytoserve -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:24:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Archer

Well those puffs comming out of windows in the big Towers are explained easily as the result of compressed air from the collapse blowing out windows in some places as the towers fall, that much falling material will displace alot of air. Along the lines of the bang a paper bag makes when you blow it full of air and pop it. Seen in slow motion that burst will look like a small explossion as well.





Really?


Like 40 stories below?

I'm not buying it.

I saw the flashes on the side of the south tower as well..in the last video...at about 3min 20 sec into the clip.



sissifytoserve -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:28:32 PM)

No steel frame building in history has ever collapsed due to fire.

3 of them did on 9-11.

WTC #7 wasn't even hit by a plane.

The Windsor high rise building in Spain a while back burned for 2 DAYS STRAIGHT.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spain_fire_2005.html

It didnt collapse.Only the upper floors buckled.

But a Kerosene fire only took an hour to collapse the most structurally over engineered buildings in history?

Yeah...


I have some bridges id like to sell you in Antarctica.



sissifytoserve -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:34:16 PM)

WHERE...is the so-called "Inferno" that brought down the buildings?


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/wtc1_woman.html

Who is that woman in the hole where the planes went in?


WHERE is the "metal melting fire?"



Archer -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:35:00 PM)

No amount of argument from anyone will change your mind that it was a government conspiracy, and you cannot prove a negative, that is why innocent until proven guilty exists, because short of proving exactly to a T exactly what happened there is no way to prove it was not a conspiracy, even the slightest gap will be siezed upon to insert a possible government connection.

You're not buying air preassure blowing out windows exactly WTF causes the windos next door to blow out, the ones accross the street. Air preassure is what causes all exposive damage, (not including fragments accellerated by that air pressure).

Tons of falling debris displaces alot of air, That is a scientific fact.
Air pressure causes windows to blow out, Also a proven scientific fact.
Flashes seen at that distance can be reflections off of the mirrored surface of the windows as they move (are begining to blow out) and change angle to the sun.



Estring -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:35:51 PM)

And of course all the Jews were warned ahead of time. Maybe they were behind it too? It is amazing how far some people will go to deny reality.  



sissifytoserve -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:39:29 PM)

Jews?

or MOSSAD?


http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a091101odigo

Yes...some people were warned.



Saint -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:42:52 PM)

[:D]Didnt you see my ealier post, Estring? [:D] It wasnt the jews behind it, it was the reptilian humanoids who secretely engineered 911 because they are of course, the secret masters of catastrophic human events throughout history. Logic doesnt play into any of this. After all, those mysterious "THEY and THEM" people are the ones responsible. Its always they who are responsible or them who knew what was happening...



Estring -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:46:08 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

Jews?

or MOSSAD?


http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?item=a091101odigo

Yes...some people were warned.


I figured it out. You are from the Bizarro World. Everything is backward here compared to your world. Our governments don't blow up our own buildings and kill innocent people. I bet in your world they do.
You need to get back to your world as soon as possible. Warn them. Then you will be seen as a genius instead of the paranoid freak you are in our world. 



NastyDaddy -> RE: Conspiracy Phreak Update (9/13/2006 8:46:31 PM)

Oh it's you again, off on a new tangent.... last time it was about the peace loving religion "over there", LOL

You boasting of having a DD214... which I seriously doubt (get this one wyrd), did you ever bother telling us what type of discharge it says as I asked? You called me a draft dodging sumthin-er-nuther and I told you my DD214 says Honorable Discharge... you forgot all about what your's says though... Is that a conspiracy of one?

You boasted that your DD214 says you went to Iraq, remember that... and you specifies you didn't ever want to go back. With your many friends over there, I wonder why? Did some of your buddies over there fuck you or what?

Soon all your posts will be saying:  [Awaiting Approval] ...then you and jessica can play on the moon together.  [:D] 



sissifytoserve -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:47:33 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Saint

Logic doesnt play into any of this.



Yeah.....the so-called "logic" of "those dirty A-rabs done it!! Lets go git em'!"



Estring -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:47:36 PM)

Lol. You are right Saint. It's that pesky Trilateral Commision all over again.



sissifytoserve -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:49:52 PM)



******Puts Nasty Daddy on Ignore.********



Yawns.



NastyDaddy -> RE: Conspiracy Phreak Update (9/13/2006 8:49:59 PM)

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ORIGINAL: NastyDaddy

Soon all your posts will be saying:  [Awaiting Approval] ...then you and jessica can play on the moon together.  [:D] 



OMG..... anybody notice that sissygirl showed up right after jessica's posts started saying:  [Awaiting Approval]

Indeed, a conspiracy of one....  [:D] 



StrongButKind -> RE: Controlled demolition (9/13/2006 8:54:23 PM)

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ORIGINAL: sissifytoserve

Oh...let me guess...

You're looking for IVY league credentials right?



Nope. I'll settle for a peer-reviewed publication in a relevant field.

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There's a few of them there....you just didn't bother to bring them up....or the former Director of the Reagan "star wars" programs...



If you mean Bowman, he worked in the Ford and Carter administrations, and later criticized the Reagan SDI program. He is now running for Congress, and has promised that if he becomes President, he will put in place a Christian government that will eliminate terrorism and disband the military.

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or the UT computer science professor.....



He seems to be a competent computer scientist. If the theory is that a computer virus brought the towers down, his opinion is relevant and I'd encourage him to publish it.

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or the former assistant German Defense minister.....



von Buelow is a lawyer, not a scientist.

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or the numerous architects....



I couldn't find one with a relevant publication or anything else qualifying him or her to comment -- some I could not even verify are currently licensed in any way -- please correct me if I'm wrong and any are experts.

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or the math professors..or...well



I didn't look into the math professors -- I didn't say they're all morons, I'm just saying they have no relevant expertise. If any is even an applied math person with something published in a vaguely relevant discipline, I'll read it. Please prove me wrong -- this would be one heck of a story if there were any good reason to believe it.

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theres no more need for me to make you look foolish.



Well, except that it's fun -- please, keep making me look foolish.



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