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Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 6:17:33 AM

spankmepink11

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I've often wondered about this practice and wondered what motivates it.
When a Dominant decides to make a submissive sleep on the floor at the foot of the bed, beside the bed, what is it that they are hoping to accomplish? It seems a practice prevelant to female Dominants, is that so?
Is this a form of humiliation? Objectification? A test of loyalty? I wish i understood it. I think i can only see it as hurtfully exclusionary (not sure if thats a word..lol) I certainly don't feel that it's physically healthy. So whats the attraction?
Do submissives enjoy this? To me it kind of represents a lack of concern for the well being of ones property.
I understand that this may be an example of "to each their own" it's just something that has always tugged at my mind.

Any input?

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 6:24:36 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: spankmepink11
When a Dominant decides to make a submissive sleep on the floor at the foot of the bed, beside the bed, what is it that they are hoping to accomplish? It seems a practice prevelant to female Dominants, is that so?

Same reason we make subs kneel- physical expressions of submission and status towards their dom. It's also a bit of surrendering physical comforts to the exalted one in the relationship.

And frankly when I was in a dorm, it was MUCH more comfy for both of us just to have me sleep on the floor and him take the bed.

Or it could just be a punishment.

Actually I've known it to be more common with male dom/fem sub relationships, but I'm sure it happens across the board.

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I certainly don't feel that it's physically healthy.

Well for some people it could be if they had particular back problems or such, but for a normal person, sleeping on a floor is hardly unhealthy. There's also a difference between "lay on the floor and sleep" and "Here's a sleeping bag, I get the bed."

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So whats the attraction?
Do submissives enjoy this? To me it kind of represents a lack of concern for the well being of ones property.

I enjoy it as I enjoy kneeling.

Would you tell a dom that they were lacking concern for the well being of their property if they told them to kneel as they stood and talked for awhile? Sure, lots of subs have problems kneeling over long periods, but many don't. and many are trained to endure it well.

I think if we understood more about where these ideas of yours come from, we could better address them.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 6:28:12 AM

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To me, it seems just another way of reinforcing their submission - reminding them even in sleep of their place, and subs like it for that reason. If they're not required in the bed, why would one want them there? But at the same time, they're close by, in case they are needed.

Meanwhile, there are a whole lot of better things to do if one doesnt make them sleep on the floor.....but it all comes down to preferences and circumstances in the end I suppose, and these could change on a day to day basis. I would see no benefit to punishing oneself by making the sub sleep on the floor.
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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 6:29:27 AM

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I'm right there with you... I don't get it either, but course you knew that. Anyone sleeping on the floor in my room would be in danger of getting walked on in the middle of the night since it's pitch dark in there. Not to mention the possibility of hypothermia. My room stays cold on purpose... there are days in the winter that it's cold enough in there to be just shy of seeing your breath. Great sleeping weather!! Of course I'm sleeping in a heated bed and not on the floor.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 6:31:41 AM

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Given that I picked it up from a male dominant....I can't say that it's something isolated to female dominants!

I use it to teach discipline, and to show him that I am the one who chooses his privileges, such as sleeping on a bed, sleeping beside me, or doing without.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 6:33:51 AM

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I've never done it myself, I want my sub in bed with me. I need someone to put my cold feet on

With that said I understand it is used to remind a sub/slave of their "place" as a servant and to sleep in the bed with the Owner is a treat rather then to be expected. There is a slave from another site who sleeps on a mat on the floor all the time, while the dog sleeps in the bed with the Owner.

Some Dominants (I have been told) make their subs sleep on the floor all the time, others do it part of the time/special occasion, some use it as punishment. Some subs enjoy it, others hate it. I personally would think it could be hard on the joints when the slave got a bit older.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 6:36:37 AM

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I don't sleep on the floor. But there are times he probably wants to kick me out of bed, because I am used to a queen sized bed, by myself and tend to try to use the entire bed space for me. Of course I am unaware of this.

I do sometimes sit at his feet while we watch tv....that is fun.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 6:45:14 AM

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I agree with the idea that it reinforces their submission, and their position in the house. In my case, my sub will be expected to sleep on the floor regularly, whenever I have a lover in my bed. He or she will understand that it is MY bed, and they are in it at my pleasure.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 6:51:35 AM

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just a general reply, not directed at anyone in particular

this slave actually enjoys sleeping on the floor as well as sitting on the floor at Master's feet. Master made it clear though that he would not have his slave sleeping on the floor ; he perfers to have her within quick reach

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 6:53:15 AM

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Greetings...

As in most things.....the reasons for any action are as different as the people who take them...i have always slept on the bathroom floor when serving my former Trainer..whom i have been seeing for the last 6 years...This is not a punishment....or a tactic designed to make me feel "more submissive"......He just does not share his bed..with anyone...His wife/slave....has had her own bedroom....always....It is just his way to not share his space. One thing i have learned...over time....is that no matter how deluxe a hotel he is booked into.....the bathroom floors all feel the same!!!!

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 6:57:01 AM

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Once I was required to sleep on the floor for punishment, because I had agreed to quit smoking and I slipped. It was a carpeted floor and I had a blanket and was right beside him but I made sure I never slipped again so that I could always sleep beside him in the bed.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 6:58:36 AM

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It reinforces that his bed is a privilege, and not an entitlement. Unless you have Osteo, arthritis, or other skeletal maladies, I do not see anything unhealthy about the floor. After being relegated to the floor, I do not take his bed for granted, and I am most grateful when allowed on it. Even more grateful when allowed to sleep on the bed beside him, rather than at his feet.

I tend to thrive from being made to feel small. He is a large man and likes to spread out unencombered. So it really is not a traumatic thing in our case.

But yes, it is a form of humiliation and objectification. For me it is an expression of humility, submission and devotion. I'm not sure how it falls under a lack of concern for well being, however. Surely I am not getting injured by laying there. I suffer more physical consequences from his flogger, belt, crop and hand.

I know several male Dominants who do this. I'm not sure it is prevalent to females.

I'm glad you asked the question, however. Some of us who sleep on the floor have been accused of being abused. It is good to ask, in search of understanding, rather than assume (something I had to learn to do, lol).

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 7:00:49 AM

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I have had female and male dominants wanting me to do this. I have slept at the foot of the bed but never on the floor. I knew this going in that it would be expected at some point. For me it is just another way to show submission, like kneeling etc. It is not unhealthy if both want it.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 7:02:18 AM

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Greetings, spankmepink11..

quote:

Do submissives enjoy this? To me it kind of represents a lack of concern for the well being of ones property.

Why would you think this? In many countries entire families sleep on the floor and live long, healthy lives. As one who has spent nights on the floor, I was curious as to what damage you think can occur by simply commanding a person to sleep.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 7:05:32 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lisaSea

Greetings, spankmepink11..

quote:

Do submissives enjoy this? To me it kind of represents a lack of concern for the well being of ones property.

Why would you think this? In many countries entire families sleep on the floor and live long, healthy lives. As one who has spent nights on the floor, I was curious as to what damage you think can occur by simply commanding a person to sleep.

lisa{Sea's}

I'm truly looking forward to the answer to this question! I camp quite a bit, and put my sleeping bag on a dropcloth on the grass. I've not died yet. Was I being neglectful of myself for sleeping that way? LOL The horror....

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 7:05:35 AM

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I slept on the floor last week. I think it was the six vodka blue fusions.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 7:11:51 AM

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It's pretty much as others have stated, and i have found it to be more common with Dom/sub partners as well. i have slept on the floor, in the cage, outside, and once i slept out in the shed. LOL! When i was a bit younger...*grin Now it is hard for me to sleep on hard surfaces without thick padding since my accident, my joints can't take it very well.

To add my own thoughts...

It is a form of humiliation in a good way. It is a reminder of social positioning and status within the M/s dynamic. Being trained to view using furniture as a priviledge instead of as a given, is a strong reinforcer in some relationships. For those who have this mindset, it works well and some sub/slaves actually begin to feel out of place on the furniture after a while, it is a form of cognitive conditioning. Furniture then becomes a rare priviledge.

It is also a form of punishment or as degradation, or disciplinary humiliation or training used to set one down to correct "lower" status, always below the Master or Dominant, and never above. Some dominants even have rules that the slaves head must be lower then their own, this is a bit extreme for some, but others enjoy it. In training, it is used by some folks, mainly for teaching humility and gratefulness.

It is all about what works best for the folks involved.

Some folks see this as being inconsiderate or disrespectful, others feel it is down right mean and sadistic, and see it as a deprivation, or cruel taunt.

It is all in the perceptions of how it is received, and in the intentions of the one giving it.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 7:15:53 AM

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In this house, sleeping on the floor helps me to remember that everything in this house is his. He tends to use this when I may have forgotten that through our hectic days, it can be quite humbling.

I do not feel it is neglectful of him, there are many worse things that could happen to me than sleeping on the floor or at the foot of his bed.

No it is not something I enjoy, the floor is hard even with a mat and a blanket there, but not everything is to be enjoyed, some things are just meant to teach us or help us to remember.

Our lives here are full of "vanilla" tasks. Soccer, gymnastics, work, family, and of course the unmentionables that make all of the above necessary. When i need a reminder i am grateful that he cares enough to give me one.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 7:21:56 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: spankmepink11

I've often wondered about this practice and wondered what motivates it.
When a Dominant decides to make a submissive sleep on the floor at the foot of the bed, beside the bed, what is it that they are hoping to accomplish? It seems a practice prevelant to female Dominants, is that so?
Is this a form of humiliation? Objectification? A test of loyalty? I wish i understood it. I think i can only see it as hurtfully exclusionary (not sure if thats a word..lol) I certainly don't feel that it's physically healthy. So whats the attraction?
Do submissives enjoy this? To me it kind of represents a lack of concern for the well being of ones property.
I understand that this may be an example of "to each their own" it's just something that has always tugged at my mind.

Any input?

We practice this in Our household for the many reasons already stated. Sleeping in Our bed is reserved for special occassions and is a treat and privilege. We've tried it both ways, having them in bed regularly and not, and having them not is more preferrable to me and does help keep a slave in a mindset.
Also, I can't stand being crowded while trying to sleep and there is already enough in my bed with the Ol' Man, a pomeranian, a black cat and a kitten.
The slave is on a thick mat type thingy though with plenty of blankets and a pillow so it's not like they're on the cold bare floor. In the winter I also insist on them sleeping with night clothes.

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RE: Sleeping on the floor??? - 9/20/2006 8:13:47 AM

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I have done it one time, for punishment. I have 'considered' having a servant sleep at the foot of the bed, but for various reasons I prefer having her next to me, more prepared for use.

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