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TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/16/2005 12:53:14 AM

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well since I started posting my concerns about dying to to any number of medical reeasons after I start to Transistion from a stupid man to an intelligent woman. (my last intelligence test was off the scale high so much so there were no tests to actually measure it :P )

I feel that here would be, after it was suggested by another person (thanks I just can't remeber your name!!), a good place to address any questions and give links to sites for those that want to learn more about "Gender Disporia" as it is called in the DSMV IV.

well since you gals, and guys have had some questions ask away I check in daily randomly (unless something happens to prevent me) so you can expect an answer realtivly quickly even it it a I don't know, or I know it but need to find a way of phrasing it so that another person that is not up on the special language or another TS can understand it as I have had problems when I assume a certain level of common ground or rather common knowledge.

and on occasion the questions asked make me think about something I have taken for granted or never really even considered, as it would for anyone that has lived a life with something and being questioned about can make you notice things that you didn't realize had importance. like favorite colour, suprisingly most TSs don't know their favorite colour and only after excepting being TS do they come to realize that they don't even know that about themselves!!! Like I don't know what my favorite colour is but a couple years ago I might have said Black or blue because those are manly colours and pink is girly so it is obvously not able to be my favorite colour. Today I would be likely to say red, pink, or yellow. or maybe Gold! or perhaps Peacock Blue I just don't know.

Sorry I seem to be rabbling now so I'll stop and let you pick my brains and hopeful allow you to understand me and those like me better, even though the BDSM people I've met are excepting of me almost as warmly as my Tgirlfriends.

Huggs >:D<

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/16/2005 5:52:20 AM

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i have a friend that was a friend pre-op. when she came out to the entire work place i asked her tons of questions. i even asked about how she peed, sitting or standing. Because she is a sweet, wonderful person she answered all my stupid questions with kindness and understanding that i was honestly trying to understand what she was dealing with. i never thought to ask what her favorite color was. What you say makes perfect sense though and i suspect her answer would be much like yours.
She has been living as a woman now for gosh about three years and is i think 6-9 months post-op. She is an amazing woman and is really starting to know it. Last time i saw her i told her i almost couldn't remember her before. She quickly said something like "Oh, I know. I wasn't much to rember back then" then she gave me that winning look at me now smile.
i'll always hold her dear in my heart. Thank you for making me thing about her again. i haven't seen her in a couple of months but will make a point to get her phone number next time i see her.
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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/16/2005 7:19:30 AM

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i just wanted to wish you the very best with it. i am sure you get a ton of stupid questions. i guess i would be too afraid to ask too much in fear of offending anyone. i think this is something that would be too difficult to understand unless you have had to deal with it yourself in regards to emotionally.

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/16/2005 11:25:52 AM

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well since I started posting my concerns about dying to to any number of medical reeasons after I start to Transistion l

Hi SwitchNCgal, I remember you mentioning this before. Have you talked with your doctor about your specific health risks? Any medicine has side effects and most drugs affect some people differently than they do others.

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/16/2005 12:52:17 PM

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Just wanted to let you know i was watching the discovery health channel today. They had two cases of transgender surgeries. One changing from male to female and the other from female to male. you might want to watch it.

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/16/2005 7:02:23 PM

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Thanks for the support!!!!!

the only stupid question is the one that remains unasked, and i don't mind answering because the better educated the public is about it the less likely we will get clocked (ie, attacked when going the restroom, etc.) or killed just for being who we are.

As for my health risks I know them and I wasn't trying to make it seem that i was complaining about them but sometimes it just overwhelms me, the long road ahead and the challenges ahead i know it is doable, but i have to remeber to take it one step at a time.

As for the shows i don't get discovery health it is a premium channel here and i just have basic cable. so i was unable to watch them..

Lil_joy I hope you are able to get her phone number nothing makes us happier then being accepted as the girl (or guy) we are.

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/16/2005 7:03:16 PM

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Congrats on your switch. You said you just started the transition process. So, just now started taking hormones?
Or therapy? Or....well details, details?
I've known 6 now to make the change. All from men to women. Well, one is still trying to save up 8 more grand for the final step. Some of the best people I've met in life are ones who made the transition. Something about truly knowing who you are does wonder's for a person. In day to day life many of us ever make it that far.
I'm sure you know other's but if you need to talk to anyone who has made the change let me know. I can get you in contact with some.

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/17/2005 12:49:17 AM

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Dear SwitchNCal,

i for one, think you and others like you are so very brave to do what you are doing, and i dont imagine that you came to this conclusion overnight.
i can only imagine some of the emotional turmoil you may have gone through, to get where you are now. i will be barracking for you, and i truly hope all goes well.

*lotsa hugs*

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/17/2005 2:47:30 AM

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Congrats on your switch. You said you just started the transition process. So, just now started taking hormones?
Or therapy? Or....well details, details?
I've known 6 now to make the change. All from men to women. Well, one is still trying to save up 8 more grand for the final step. Some of the best people I've met in life are ones who made the transition. Something about truly knowing who you are does wonder's for a person. In day to day life many of us ever make it that far.
I'm sure you know other's but if you need to talk to anyone who has made the change let me know. I can get you in contact with some.

well I hope to get horomones soon and i just found a thearpist that runs a support group for girls my age it took me over 3 monthes to get comfortable calling myself by female pronouns so you are right it has taken me a long time to get to the point where i can accept being me.

And I don't know anyone that has taken every last step needed to transition. They tend to disappear into the wood work. Like what i hope to do afterwards. the MtoF is more common then the FtoM so i'm not the least bit surprised about knowing only girls fixing their bodies.

and yes i can imagine that is true saving up that amount of money to finish what she started the final step is frightfully expensive.

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Dear SwitchNCal,

i for one, think you and others like you are so very brave to do what you are doing, and i dont imagine that you came to this conclusion overnight.
i can only imagine some of the emotional turmoil you may have gone through, to get where you are now. i will be barracking for you, and i truly hope all goes well.

*lotsa hugs*

n

Now for courage take a little girl i met that is transitioning at the age of 7! living full time and her parents are supportive even suing the school system after they refused to let their daughter attend so now the public school system is paying to send her to a private school where she can be herself.

As for courage i tried to stop feeling anything in JHS and succeeded to a degree and now I wake up in the middle of the night and don't know why. The thoughts, "is this what I want? is this what i need?" keeps returning. I've always hated making permenat changes, especially to my own body, and now i want to pirece my ears! I guess i'm learning to be afraid again, to feel in general, and well live again. Well I'm not sure I'll ever be total ready to transition but i can hope that one day i will have no more fears or concerns as i call them about and be able to live as i feel most comfortable................. in a skirt!

I'm kinda surprised at the lack of questions and all the support it is kinda strange I guess I expected people to be more curious about this but everyone seems to be taking as if it were something they saw everyday. I may have to change that "almost" to "like" my Tgirlfriends!

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/17/2005 5:06:39 AM

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everyone seems to be taking as if it were something they saw everyday. I may have to change that "almost" to "like" my Tgirlfriends!

Well thank you. I think this website has wonderful members and can be very supportive. I am glad you are feeling some of that support because truly we wish you all the best in this difficult process of correcting your life.

I hope you will excuse my curiosity, but I imagine that many parents are dismayed when they hear of their child's decision to change sex. Would you mind discussing your parents reactions, and possibly that of your brothers and sisters (if you have any).

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/17/2005 3:09:43 PM

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oh not at all!!!!!!!!!!

first off I told my dad when we were going to a confrence, seperatly, and were going to be staying in the same hotel, only we didn't tell each other until the day before he was going to leave and 2 days for me turns out we were both TSs and were hiding it from each other!

My father is becoming a woman too, so that was no problem, she understood it and has helped by finding me a support group for girls my age! I have a problem calling her "Mom" so I call her by her chossen name which is exactly like mine in spelling with the exception of the first letter. We still laugh at it. In case you didn't notice she was very supportative, and we are exploring the stats on 2 TSs in the same family as parent and child. kinda hard to get stats on that as you might imagine.

My only brother was like, "this affects me how?" but then again he roams coventions dressed as a giant Roo (kangaroo that is). Soooooooooo that was easy although big sis, aka Dad, made me tell him in voilation of the rule that the TS should tell whom they want when they feel comfortable the only reason i told her was we would be going to the same place for the samething and therefore had no choice, because we were going to run in to each other at the convetion (it was small, but the largest of it's kind in the world only about 500 or so people and their SOs, it was TSs both kinds, CDers (Crossdressers if i have to explain that aryonim here!), and genderbenders).

Mom doesn't know and I won't tell her because is very religous and well I don't want to deal with the looks of, "where did i go wrong?" or her trying to talk me out of it because it was hatd enough for me to get to this point so I don't want to deal with family I care alot about trying to talk me out of it. that is why I have not told my grandfather (a retired churchman) and the rest of my extended family. I'll tell them one day just not today or tomorrow.

I think I'll tell them when I have to met them in person most likely when I go full time as "Samantha" (note not the name i have chossen for myself) the same goes for all my "friends." I'm introducing them to her via on-line, being myself without trying to pretend anymore on line, but I'm using a second email-account, forum names, IM ids, the whole nine yards required in creating a second life so that the break from male life to female life can be as seamless as possiable.

I'm sorry that I can't answer for all of them because I know some of them are either too far way to tell in person and that is the way I WILL tell everyone, or i know they are unlikely to be supportative and the Doc says I need support not people trying to make me coform to societies standards until I'm more comfortable telling them. She likened it to cancer patients needing to get used to the routine of treatment before going and getting the new age treatments that don't have a proven track record and could make things worse if you stop the regular treatments.

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/18/2005 8:56:38 PM

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just incase anyone is wondering my doc sayes that i may be XXY. Basicly that means my brain developed as female and then during the 2nd trimester a mutation occured and my body developed as male.

Basicly if she's right that means the horomone therapy will be like it is on overdrive and take a lot less time about 1/3 the usual time for the physical changes to occur. Which i should be starting in the next 3 monthes the Edno (the doc that prescribes the horomones has that long of a waiting period for horomones down here!). and incase anyone is wondering most health insurance doesn't pay for any thing, not the horomones, and not the surgeries, however most will help cover the therapy....... if i had insurance

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/18/2005 10:53:23 PM

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Has your endo run your karyotype yet?

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/18/2005 11:52:28 PM

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I wish! the guess the Therapist made was based on several factors, and I don't know them all the Endo, when i see her as i have yet to meet her for the first time yet as she has a 3 month waiting period before she is able to see new patients, will be running all those tests on my genes, my liver, my heart and cardio system and of course checking my Testosetone levels to determine the levels. If i remeber right there is a need for 6 vials of blood while when she will these tests every time i go in for a check up to make sure that the doses I'm taking are at the correct level. But I have a slight problem with that........... I HATE NEEDLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! even though I have the arm veins that nurses love because you can't miss them no searching for a vein there are 3 on each arm that can be hit easily.

Here is a fun little thing I found to help people understand karotypes. http://gslc.genetics.utah.edu/units/disorders/karyotype/karyotype.cfm

I can't wait to see the Endo if I'm able to get in before that (a cancellation or something) I'll let you all know (and of course how it went if you are intrested.)

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/24/2005 11:56:38 PM

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The gurl comments bother me a little. I mean I know I'm not quite a full girl, yet, and never will be a Gentic Girl (GG) but does that mean I'm not worthy as a person to be called correctly by my gender, am I to forever be considered a second class citizen? After all Gender is a Social Construct while Sex is a Biological Construct. It makes me wonder why some people choose to focus on my flawed body and not the mind which inhabits this flawed body. After all who's body is not without some flaw? Show me a flawless body and I'll show you a statue or a person that's ego needs deflating.

Anyway my body's flaws are many and severe but not beyond the realm of repair these days.

I'll be adding this post with more info in the Health and saftey section now before it leaves the purpose of this thread which I as take it is the the meaning of mispelled words that are in common usage now. (Origianlly form the General Discussion Area and Now the Rest of the story! (hope I don't get sued

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One of the things I've always fanastized about since my preteens/early puberty was actually getting pregant but everytime I thought about it I would get sad afterwards afterall there was no way a boy could get pregant right? Well now I've learned it is possiable for me after all and have learned that I might be able to. Surgeons in other coutries are working on an artifical womb that would allow me to take a donated egg and some of my frozen little fishies aka sperm and actually carry a child to term but I would need a C-section to give birth. Would getting surgery like this make me more of a girl then I already am?

No, but it would give me options that I would like like being able to start my own family instead of adopting a child or entering a relationship in witch my partner would already have kids. And isn't that what we all want in life when we can't depend on much? Control of our bodies? and the abilities inhereant in them? Now I know girls that are post op in the days before one step surgeries (Vaginalpasty and Labailpasty together) and their mates are happy and so are they so they havn't felt the need to spend thousands more on adding the Labia to themselves, because they don't need them and it is not an overpowering desire while I know others that have. I'm not sure if I'll get a wombpasty, is that even a word?, but if it does become widely available that doesn't mean I'll look in to it.

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/26/2005 2:34:02 PM

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just incase anyone is wondering my doc sayes that i may be XXY. Basicly that means my brain developed as female and then during the 2nd trimester a mutation occured and my body developed as male.

Actually what you have is Klinefelter's syndrome. I know several who have it. Been to several of their support groups. In all of my research I've never heard that they are a female in their brain. Correct, they do have certain traits. Small testes and penie. Abnormal height. Breasts. Lack of body hair. Puberty is hell. Lack of a sex drive. They grow more rounded like females do. Instead of the beer bellies men get.
In the past before most were diagnosed they were in their mid to late 30's and sucidal. However with recent science we can now detect KS in the womb.

http://gslc.genetics.utah.edu/units/disorders/karyotype/klinefelter.cfm

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/26/2005 11:04:29 PM

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intresting, but several of my Tgirl friends are DES babies a drug that causes genetic mutation in mid-gestation, so they literally start as girls and end up as boys. And they are finding that there are second generation affects as well.

This drug (I forget the official name) was used from the mid 40s-50s as a miscarriage drug in hte militrary and then civilian hosipitals. It was also feed to beef cows and was in the food supply in small amounts and accourding the the reports I'm read it was a powerful drug that even a small amount could have an affect on the fetus. Now I don't know of any DES babies from just eating beef while pregant, but I've heard of stranger things.

I don't have KS as far as I know..... I don't know about any of the changes your talking about, accept I don't have much in the way of breasts & I have body hair I don't want. As for a small penis and testiciles I don't have a clue as to what is average and what isn't so no idea there, and as for being 5' 7" is that short or tall for a boy or a girl I don't know. As for sex drive......... not for long!

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/27/2005 3:56:38 PM

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just incase anyone is wondering my doc sayes that i may be XXY.

XXY is Klinefelters. Ask the doctor about it. Since you've already started the switch. Well, it really means little. I just like speaking with other KS patients.

Also, all KS patients do not have all the symptoms. Its sort of a give and take depending on your karyotype.

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RE: TSs..... Hormones, Surgery, and Therapy.... OH MY!!!! - 1/27/2005 9:42:39 PM

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ahhh well I'll ask her about it next time we get together. You've been a wealth of info on things i'm just scratching the surface on.

Oh and I think my favorite colour is a bright colour I'm leaning towards pink or red. But for me it depends on the application of the colour. I perfer white for cars, you know that sort of thing.

But over all pink or red.

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