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A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/28/2006 11:19:33 AM

darktaintedangel

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I am new to BDSM but I have a bit of exprience in it. I have a few questions for Doms mainly to see what Masters think of this...

I want to try other partners, like my Master forcing me to pleasure others - Males and/or Females. But when I talk to a lot of Doms I tell them that it is imperative we discuss it before hand, and I have the right to request any and all partners he wants to use with me (or us) to go through testing. I have heard Doms say that you should just submitt to your Master and trust him to make sure that the people he wants to bring in are healthy. What do you think Doms?

Also, Doms who want to be my Master and I talk (if we get that far) about sex. Most say I should be on the pill and it's my responsibility. I say, we should use a combo of speracide, condoms and if my budget allows, B.C....What are your thoughts on this Doms?

I'd gladly take any and all answers, I am just curious to why so many Doms say the opposite of what I want in these catergories is all.
Thanks!!

RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/28/2006 11:22:07 AM

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Find somebody who "works" for what you want/need/desire and long for.

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/28/2006 11:23:36 AM

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I think you should put all your trust on your dom because that is why you would have one to begin with. The trouble is picking a dom that feels the same way you do so that you dont ever have to worry about questioning such things.

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/28/2006 11:28:24 AM

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Whatever points you have that are important to you, be they these or any others, find a partner who has the same concerns. If they don't, they're not a match.

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/28/2006 11:29:05 AM

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I'd gladly take any and all answers, I am just curious to why so many Doms say the opposite of what I want in these catergories is all.
Thanks!!

Probobly because Doms, ultimately, can speak only for themselves, the same as anybody else.

Under these circumstances, I'd allow a sub to make a "wish list", but reserve final judgment, and not confined neccessarily to the list.

Precautions are a given, unless impregnation were the desired result - in which case you might find yourself seducing a Mormon missionary, lol.

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/28/2006 11:31:19 AM

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ORIGINAL: darktaintedangel

I am new to BDSM but I have a bit of exprience in it. I have a few questions for Doms mainly to see what Masters think of this...

Hopefully non-masters can chime in as well

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I want to try other partners, like my Master forcing me to pleasure others - Males and/or Females. But when I talk to a lot of Doms I tell them that it is imperative we discuss it before hand, and I have the right to request any and all partners he wants to use with me (or us) to go through testing. I have heard Doms say that you should just submitt to your Master and trust him to make sure that the people he wants to bring in are healthy.

how can it be "forcing you to pleasure others" if you are asking him to let you do it? And you should trust him to make sure anyone he brings in will not be a risk to your health.. but that does mean.. dont try this until you DO know him well enough to trust him in this respect. Otherwise....you need to protect yourself.

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Also, Doms who want to be my Master and I talk (if we get that far) about sex. Most say I should be on the pill and it's my responsibility. I say, we should use a combo of speracide, condoms and if my budget allows, B.C....What are your thoughts on this Doms?

most doms I know of are not really interested in spoiling the headspace by going "oh wait.. gotta put on the spermicide".. HOWEVER, bc pills are great for preventing pregnancy but not for disease control... so it falls under the catagory of too bad soo sad for the most part. If you cannot trust his sexual history, and he will not get himself tested to verify he is disease free.. I think they need to get over the "I dont wanna syndrome" in this case.

What it ultimately comes down to though is this.. most doms are "my way or the highway".. and there is not much you can do about it.. except keep looking if "their way" is not the way you want to go.

Good luck!

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/28/2006 8:55:34 PM

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When it comes down to it, all of us are responsible for our sexual health. Dare I mention that HIV/AIDS still infects hundreds of thousands of people each year? Although I hesistate to tell others what to do, I'll simply offer this bit of advice. Unprotected sexual intercourse with multiple partners is extraordinarily risky. Latex condoms used properly is typically a better approach then taking someone's word as to who might be "cum" to you uninfected. Empowering yourself does not lesson you as a submissive.

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/28/2006 8:56:48 PM

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/28/2006 9:43:33 PM

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Let me guess, these are people you are talking to online, correct?

The men who told you that crap are idiots. The distinction is subtle and you are too young to get it but some people can say the exact thing those people told you and be absolutely right but most can't. I might pull that sort of line if I was taking an experienced submissive who had personal knowledge of me and my experience. However, if I was talking to a barely legal teenager with essentially zero experience in life or BDSM, I would never ever take that tack. I would explain the fuller reasons of how things work.

As an example if I was talking to the aforementioned experienced submissive I might simply say that offering her sexual services is expected by me. She KNOWS that I would address her concerns prior and in secret to preserve the whole "forced" thing. She knows this because she knows my history in the scene, that I have had long term stable relationships with partners that still respect and have good things to say about me.

You don't know any of this about the people you are speaking to. My opinion is they are too clueless to even understand what I just said, you however are not. Your questions and concerns are very very valid and you should absolutely stick by them and refuse to have anything to do with anyone who cannot respect you and your opinions.

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/28/2006 10:01:50 PM

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Right on, CrappyDom!
NEVER submit your gift of service to someone you don't trust. It's like anything else in life, but even more important because of the risks inherent to bdsm - use common sense. Before you submit, outline your limits in great detail. Communication here is key. No one likes a scene gone bad because of a lack of communication. And only submit to a dom who honors your safe word(s), and not those that try to manipulate you to avoid them. The motto we live by is safe, sane and consensual. Not sometimes safe, maybe sane and consensual if the dom permits.
But after you submit, do so completely. Only use safe words in the most extreme circumstance. And always honor your dom's desires. Your only purpose is to serve him or her. In any way they want. Completely.

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/28/2006 10:02:51 PM

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I would agree that you should trust your Master, but the trust doesnt come from being titled. It has to be earned. Someone telling you to trust them with your life (which is ultimately what you would be doing if you were taking their word for the people he'd be bringing home for you) when you havent had enough time to build that trust is just looking for a kick. And, even from his point, assuming he would continue to have sexual relations with you after the other partners, it would be in his best interests to make sure al playmates were properly tested and clean as well. After all, if you are his, he runs the risk of getting anything he allows you to catch as well.
Putting on a condom might take a few minutes, but it really shouldnt break a mood. It never has when I've used them. If someone is that worried about it breaking a mood, then they had best suit up early on and build the mood AFTER the condom is on.
Just my opinion of course. This is part of wy I do not like to share my pets, I dont want to put the work into making sure any playmates I might want for him or myself are safe... it just easier to train him to take care of those specific needs I might have and be done with it.

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/28/2006 11:06:01 PM

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Dear darktaintedangel, Ladies and Gentlemen,

In my mind's eye, I see the word force and I get a bit concerned.

If this is a 'rape, slave sex force in a negotiated, consensual scene'; then in my mind's eye--it is not forced but role play.

Additionally, in my mind's eye--with all the sexually transmitted diseases, the fact that multiple partners increase the risk so very much. I also look at the risks of pregnancy. Who will claim responsibility then, if you get pregnant? I highly doubt if any of these dominants and or Masters/Dominants will do what is right and take up the responsibilities of being for mommy, child(ren) [if twins or triplets]. I look at people getting tested in the morning, might have unprotected sex in the afternoon, they do you in the evening. Sure, their test might be negative in the morning but, short of a 24/7 guard shadowing them between the test and you--well, in my mind's eye the risks are too much for some sex game or sex role play.

Another thing that has crossed in the path of my mind's eye; is role play forced sex, sex slavery which is guised as consensual however, it may well indeed be an opportunity to be 'pimping' you out like a prostitute. Men in the community have done it before, I'm sure given the opportunity with less than honorable men among us; it will repeat again.

A lot of times, those infected don't know they are. Yeast infections, bacterial infections when men don't clean their crank or, when they've wiped their poop chute and cross contaminates their Mr. Johnson aka Mr. Peter aka phallus.

Being heavy on the men aren't I? -- Well, females carry the same risk to men.

Doctors in the OB-GYN, Urologist will say; that spermacide, condoms are not fail proof. Even the pill is not fail proof, just 99.9% less risk of getting pregnant but, will not prevent the transmission of sexual diseases.

Some of these rascally males/females will break the condom or put a few pin holes in them.

The question remains, as an adult--what risks are you willing to take for spreading one's legs and pleasuring, in the guise of M/s, D/s, S&M, BDSM? How much do you value yourself?

If you cannot afford it, you get that dominant to pay for the pills and every prevention possible, so you leave the pleasure in the same health state as you started.

Just a few thoughts.

Respectfully submitted for consideration,
Lady Hugs

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/29/2006 4:37:13 AM

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ORIGINAL: darktaintedangel

I am new to BDSM but I have a bit of exprience in it. I have a few questions for Doms mainly to see what Masters think of this...

I want to try other partners, like my Master forcing me to pleasure others - Males and/or Females. But when I talk to a lot of Doms I tell them that it is imperative we discuss it before hand, and I have the right to request any and all partners he wants to use with me (or us) to go through testing. I have heard Doms say that you should just submitt to your Master and trust him to make sure that the people he wants to bring in are healthy. What do you think Doms?

Also, Doms who want to be my Master and I talk (if we get that far) about sex. Most say I should be on the pill and it's my responsibility. I say, we should use a combo of speracide, condoms and if my budget allows, B.C....What are your thoughts on this Doms?

I'd gladly take any and all answers, I am just curious to why so many Doms say the opposite of what I want in these catergories is all.
Thanks!!

GL sweetie.

o btw if you aren't getting what you want u can always be a Domme and get what u want that way.

Man, I swear that grass is greener over there.

D (owner of j).

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/30/2006 3:32:58 AM

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Hi and welcome to the Forums...

I'd suggest you proceed ONE step at a time and concentrate on actually finding "Master" FIRST! A teenager publically declaring she wants to get into virtual group sex etc is not necessarily going to attract what may otherwise be an ideal Master for you! Despite what you read in the mountain of geekmail all females get on these sites, many Doms and Masters etc aren't interested in whoring their girl out for thrills.... But even if that's what you ultimately desire, I strongly suggest you start on the bottom rung and climb the experience ladder one step at a time! Start with a Master and explore the BDSM possibilities in an environment of trust and familiarity.

I've had a quick squiz at your profile and I've gotta say it must be every horny Net Geek's dream come true and I can only imagine the "kneel bitch" mail you probably get. Don't misunderstand, your profile is quite honest and sincere etc, but that (along with being a female teen) also makes it a magnet for every online wanker who thrives on the anonymity the Net provides.

Mind you, you seem to have made an impression on CrappyDom because I can't remember the last time he channelled his undoubted knowledge into a sincere and helpful reply! lol

Focus.

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/30/2006 6:15:35 AM

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I want to try other partners, like my Master forcing me to pleasure others - Males and/or Females. But when I talk to a lot of Doms I tell them that it is imperative we discuss it before hand, and I have the right to request any and all partners he wants to use with me (or us) to go through testing. I have heard Doms say that you should just submitt to your Master and trust him to make sure that the people he wants to bring in are healthy. What do you think Doms?

Well, what you say is right but what they say is correct as well. Heres why. What you want, you shouldn't be doing with a Dominant that you aren't in serious relationship with and have at least six months to a year under the "relationship belt" with. This is so trust is built with the Dom and so that you can trust the he won't just get some drunk off the street to plug your hole(s). Your Dom should be testing people to insure they have nothing that would be passed on to you, you should trust that your Dom will test people to keep you safe.

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Also, Doms who want to be my Master and I talk (if we get that far) about sex. Most say I should be on the pill and it's my responsibility. I say, we should use a combo of speracide, condoms and if my budget allows, B.C....What are your thoughts on this Doms?

My girls are on the pill. Just because they are submissive doesn't mean that they are absolved of any responsibility in the relationship.

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RE: A Few Questions For Masters/Doms - 9/30/2006 6:40:08 AM

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ORIGINAL: darktaintedangel

I want to try other partners, like my Master forcing me to pleasure others - Males and/or Females. But when I talk to a lot of Doms I tell them that it is imperative we discuss it before hand, and I have the right to request any and all partners he wants to use with me (or us) to go through testing. I have heard Doms say that you should just submitt to your Master and trust him to make sure that the people he wants to bring in are healthy. What do you think?

Also, Doms who want to be my Master and I talk (if we get that far) about sex. Most say I should be on the pill and it's my responsibility. I say, we should use a combo of speracide, condoms and if my budget allows, birth control.

I applaud you insistence on testing precautions before sexual activity. Blood screening tests can be a little expensive, but any expense is worth it when one is weighing the value of their health.

Use caution and sound judgment in seeking a Master. In my mind, a good Master would naturally want to take care of his property; he would be protective about your health, and in so doing, would be protecting his own.

I am currently looking into Nuva Ring for a pet of mine. It purportedly has half the estrogen, and produces fewer hormonal ups and downs. Having seen what abortion does to a female, I would rather avoid successful fertilization, unless purposefully breeding her.

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