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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/23/2008 12:47:53 AM   
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I refer all you lovely people to my first journal entry. (scroll down to it, in my profile.) This is what I dream of doing to my slave. Not sure if I would actually do it, but it makes me cum really good to dream of it. The whole point of it is to humiliate my slave. His extreme humiliation and objectification is the goal. And no, I don't think I would enjoy it nearly as much, probably just a tiny fraction as much, if he had any gay or bi tendencies. I mean, the point is to humiliate him, so if he liked, it, how would that accomplish the goal? I mean, really. If he enjoyed it on any other level than as a part of my enjoyment, and just from enjoying his own sweet humiliation, than he'd just be bi.
I adore my sweet slaveboy endlessly, for even entertaining my dreams along these lines. It does so much for me, to know that he would be so submissive to me. I am truly humbled.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/23/2008 3:52:21 AM   
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just wanted too see or ask realy !    those that seek force Bi play are they just sub males or are they males subs that are into crossdressing , tv , ts, or just a good  ole sub males that dont even have a care for wearing panties or other females items ? just wondering what type sub seeks it more

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/23/2008 2:16:21 PM   
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I have served several Dommes in the past who required forced bi cocksucking on a regular basis from me while I was in Their sevice. Although, I was bicurious, the role playing aspect of being "forced" to do it at Their direction always added to the intensity of the scene. Each Domme had their own style and particular tastes of course as to how the cocksucking scene would play out. They also both started incorporating different things into the scenes to make it more intense such as making me do it in semi public places where there was always the chance of being watched or caught such as inside a parking structure either outside the car or inside the car. I was always reluctant and hesistant to suck cock in semi public places and the Dommes knew this so it just added to the role playing of being "forced" to do it and I knew that I had to in order to please them and be allowed to continue serving them.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/23/2008 2:40:09 PM   
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Well, in my case, I am NOT into CD or TV at all. My body type would only succeed in making one butt ugly woman. (LOL) However, I've never had a problem playing with CD, TV, or TG folk. From the first encounter I talked about earlier in the thread, I've only grown more comfortable with being bisexual. Really, at this point, although I still prefer women over men, I'm deciding whom to sleep with on an individual basis, rather than just by their gender.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/24/2008 10:34:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

I refer all you lovely people to my first journal entry. (scroll down to it, in my profile.) This is what I dream of doing to my slave. Not sure if I would actually do it, but it makes me cum really good to dream of it. The whole point of it is to humiliate my slave. His extreme humiliation and objectification is the goal. And no, I don't think I would enjoy it nearly as much, probably just a tiny fraction as much, if he had any gay or bi tendencies. I mean, the point is to humiliate him, so if he liked, it, how would that accomplish the goal? I mean, really. If he enjoyed it on any other level than as a part of my enjoyment, and just from enjoying his own sweet humiliation, than he'd just be bi.
I adore my sweet slaveboy endlessly, for even entertaining my dreams along these lines. It does so much for me, to know that he would be so submissive to me. I am truly humbled.
Dreamer after reading your journals i promise i will beg .You can decide whether i'm begging for more or for You to stop ,works either way doesn't it

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/24/2008 12:23:42 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dreamerdreaming

I refer all you lovely people to my first journal entry. (scroll down to it, in my profile.) This is what I dream of doing to my slave. Not sure if I would actually do it, but it makes me cum really good to dream of it. The whole point of it is to humiliate my slave. His extreme humiliation and objectification is the goal. And no, I don't think I would enjoy it nearly as much, probably just a tiny fraction as much, if he had any gay or bi tendencies. I mean, the point is to humiliate him, so if he liked, it, how would that accomplish the goal? I mean, really. If he enjoyed it on any other level than as a part of my enjoyment, and just from enjoying his own sweet humiliation, than he'd just be bi.
I adore my sweet slaveboy endlessly, for even entertaining my dreams along these lines. It does so much for me, to know that he would be so submissive to me. I am truly humbled.


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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/24/2008 3:31:50 PM   
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Bottom line for  me if my Mistress isn't taking me places i haven't been or "encouraging" me to do things i have not than we need to talk.Now if the hang-up is the term used ,whether it be forced, encouraged,coerced.whatever it's about power exchange .Hard limits are just that but put too many of them in place and what you have is vanilla with props......and as far as the labels after the fact  well I don't worry about that shit....i'm going around on this ride once and i want to get my money's worth    but that's just me

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/30/2008 12:49:08 PM   
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quote:


just wanted too see or ask realy !    those that seek force Bi play are they just sub males or are they males subs that are into crossdressing , tv , ts, or just a good  ole sub males that dont even have a care for wearing panties or other females items ? just wondering what type sub seeks it more


Just as a point of clarification; a desire to crossdress more often than not has nothing to do with bisexuality.  Sexual orientation and how we choose to appear are completely orthoganal. Unfortunately, too many people (men usually) assume that if you crossdress - you must be into males or..err... want them into you?   

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/31/2008 3:46:41 AM   
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If it's a hard limit I'm not going to force slave to do it...I do value his perspective and to force him to do something he's already established as a hard limit would be an abuse of My position.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/31/2008 3:51:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: malebitchinatutu

Hello A/all,

i was wondering if the concept of forcing men to suck cock and/or be used by another man has been around for a long time or if this is something that has recently become popular in the BDSM community.

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Excellent question, and correct assumption. It's only been recently.

In fact, the concept of Dommes or others forcing men to suck cock only began in April of 2003.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/31/2008 6:07:05 AM   
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<Taps Gris on the shoulder>

Are you quite sure about that one?  I certainly recall a much different date in mind.


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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/31/2008 6:18:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

<Taps Gris on the shoulder>

Are you quite sure about that one?  I certainly recall a much different date in mind.



Sorry, my error.

Upon further checking, it was August 2001.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 3/31/2008 7:55:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

this activity per se is nothing new

a side note: however the use of the word "forced" is highly debatable in my opinion & is most likely used by those not willing to take responsibility or accountability for their involvement of living out their own desires



Yours is a position often voiced here, but there are definitely many people who are excited by being coerced to do something they truly DON'T desire. It's not the act itself that is exciting, in fact they really don't enjoy the act, but the control demonstrated when they are forced to do it is a real turn-on.

We can quibble over the word "forced", and some say nothing here is truly forced. But what do you call it if a domme tells her sub that he must do something that he doesn't like, and his punishment for not obeying is even worse than the act he's required to do? He might even risk losing his relationship with her. Is that "forced"? Close enough, in my opinion.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 4/2/2008 6:04:39 AM   
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To me it would be forced as in as much as normally I'd never even consider direct sexual interaction with another male. Where as being naked, some physical contact and even flowback of the other male(s) when giving oral to a Domme is something I'd come to accept in my role, actually playing with men, which I find totally unattractive and having them cum in my mouth is very unappealing.

But at the same time I know I would have this overwhelming desire to please and do as my Domme asks of me, I'd feel obliged to do so despite my reluctance of it because it is my duty to make her happy in any way I can.

So its being forced.... but only by my desire to please rather than forced totally against my will.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 4/2/2008 9:35:30 AM   
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It was August 21st 2001 at 8:45 AM. It was recorded for prosterity. Write me and I will give you the blow by blow account of it.  

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 4/2/2008 9:55:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

It was August 21st 2001 at 8:45 AM. It was recorded for prosterity. Write me and I will give you the blow by blow account of it.  


wow, recorded! with You doing there doing the forcing with a Domme or being the one being forced? (thinking the former, but not wanting to assume...)


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RE: forced bisexual acts - 4/2/2008 10:43:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LotusSong

How about, instead of "forced", we just use "given the opportunity" to do so?


Because they're not even close to the same thing?

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 4/2/2008 10:51:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl

Any man who is straight will have bisexual activity on his list of hard limits. If a woman tried to force it, he would leave.


That's a very closed-minded load of bull. If he enjoys it, then it's fair to say he's not straight. But he doesn't have to enjoy it to do it. The alternatives might be worse.

It's the same thing as a sub accepting the pain of corporal punishment, even though he doesn't like it, just because his domme enjoys it and requires it of him. You wouldn't call him a masochist just because he accepts the pain. Masochism implies enjoying the pain itself. Bisexuality or homosexuality implies the enjoyment of same-gender sexual activity, not simply the act.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 4/2/2008 10:56:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: k0rrupt

when a guy makes as much repeated effort to give the impression that he is NOT interested in something, he truly is.
...



I think he's being a bit of a jerk about it, too, but this statement above is also closed-minded nonsense. Yes, it's often the case that someone fixated on denying something is actually trying to avoid the truth, but it's not always the case. Sometimes when somebody finds something repugnant, they simply find it repugnant. Period.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 4/2/2008 11:20:26 AM   
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it is my opinion that any sub that gets involved with this is actually always wanting to do it and having his domme "force him" is a crock

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