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RE: After care~ - 6/10/2004 9:49:09 AM   
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We have to remember too that aftercare isnt a good definition either for aftercare itself is considered by many to be part of the scene and not seperate from it...but 'aftercare' as a label is divisive and makes the 'scene' and 'aftercare' two seperate entities despite many claims it is an important scene ingredient.

And I agree with you, it is important to know what likely aftercare will be required here. Think of what aftercare you are prepared and emotionally able to give? As an example I am not one for hugs and snuggles unless the slave/submissive is someone I care intimately for, as a friend or a lover...so tend to choose scenes and roles and submissives/slaves that as a general rule do not require moddycoddling type aftercare. But if a slave/sub needed it I would do it, and even be the reason why they needed it, as often in scenes I'll change track and take the scene down a whole other path and mentally prepare myself for the intensity of aftercare that maybe needed.

There was a scene I did at a public play party a few years back, had a wonderful time co-topping with a female friend a male slave who was bent over various apparatus and given the canning of his life. He was a slave use to having a fair bit of say in how he is caned, required pauses between strokes, number, etc...but I'm not one to play to a script and he knew this. He was also heavily into watersports, to the point leaving cups in bathrooms for Mistresses to avail themselves of to be left for him to drink. My co-topper was a fan of watersports and I was a fan of the cane and the match made in heaven began.

He was floating after his caning and desperately begged for my co-topper's sweet nectar so after they retired to a watersports area, I relaxed with the rest of the party goers...later my sceners joined us and the slave asked if he could get me anything. A round of coffees later he is sitting at my feet, holding my ashtray, lighting my cigarettes, massaging my feet and thanking us at regular intervals for our minesterings. The party continued and we later joined in again.

Months later I learned that since that scene it was rumoured I was a 'bad dominant' for not giving the man 'aftercare' and it struck me how easily people will miscontrue something to how they wish to perceive it based on either their own ignorance of what they are seeing or what they think should be happening.

If you are of the opinion aftercare is an intergral scene ingredient, then the 'aftercare' for this scene, wasnt in me hugging and moddycoddling him and making sure he was alright, but was for him to be allowed to *serve* at my feet and keeping him in the submissive headspace he was euphorically enjoying. Physically he was fine after the practical part of the scene and totally able to continue being of service, stopping the scene and getting him to revert back to just being 'joe blow' unowned sub at a play party would have being cruel.

He was not my slave but someone who had waited patiently for his moment to be a allowed to scene with me again, and b to serve me...he was gracious for the first, and estatic over the latter as it wasnt something I often allowed him to do.

I have found, especially with people playing casually (for want of a better term) at parties or with friends...that after the scene is over and all the required aftercare is given, the acknowledgement to serve the Dominant is not that freely given and many subs/slaves are left coping with having to come down from their subspace, when a an hour or two being of service was such an easy thing to give and could negate this.

But other than a general physical, emotional health checks and cares, no one person can state what or how aftercare in the scene should be done, or what constitutes 'aftercare' either.

Aftercare with a slave privately at home once was nothing more than allowing him to spend two solid hours under my computer table, naked under a mink blanket, at my feet, worshipping my boots while I chatted to friends online.

Also, aftercare as a stand alone entity, leaves it open for people to interpret that *care* or *lack of* during the scene can be fixed with this magical *aftercare* moment.

I love aftercare as a topic, I think it is such a misunderstood one at times.

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RE: After care~ - 6/13/2004 9:07:44 PM   
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I read with great interest the posts from MistressBaddAzz1 and MistressKiss. Both were so well done and pretty much said it all. A special thank you to what Monts wrote. I feel aftercare is extremely important. I don't see how anyone can put a time in it though. It depends on so many things, the slave involved, the type and intensity of the scene, etc. We must remember that as Dominates, we are responsible for the mental, physical and emotional well being of our slaves/subs.

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RE: After care~ - 6/15/2004 10:49:54 AM   
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For me, YMMV, aftercare is for both the top and bottom and should be negotiated prior to the session. I scene a variety of folks and what each one needs is very different both in type and length of time. If they need to have no aftercare, then I go someplace to get the aftercare *I* need.
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RE: After care~ - 6/23/2004 5:29:28 PM   
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Hmmmm aftercare, Aftercare is one of favorite parts of scening. It is a time that I can hold my slave and feel the heat of his body. My slave goes into very very deep subspace. Being 6'8'' it takes two or three strong dom men to take him off a cross. We only can place him on the floor as he not aware of the room or of me. I have water and some soft candy at my side to feed him when he returns back to earth. This can take 10 minutes or an hour. Aftercare is as long as your sub/slave needs you. He or she is your property to treasure and take care of.

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RE: After care~ - 7/1/2004 10:40:27 AM   
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I agree with everybody here, but mostely with MistressAngelMist. She has really said what I was looking for.
Thanks again for the help and advice~

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RE: After care~ - 7/1/2004 12:16:36 PM   
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Aftercare is my favorite part of a scene. I put no time limits on it and can be quite non-plussed if I feel it is cut short. (For that reason I do very few intense/heavy scenes in public)

For me....the period after the sensation part of the scene ..... is the purpose FOR the scene. All my toys, techniques and skills were used just to bring you to this moment of quiet. This moment of peace. One by one I have silenced your demons, tickler files, self criticisms and a chorus of voices, duties and responsibilities. Together we have spent hours systematically stripping your armor and defenses. We have shed all those things that cling to you until all that remains is.....you.

Now you lay next to me naked and vulnerable. In this moment there is only you and me. Only one voice....mine. In this window we can just be. This time is our gift to each other.

We spend hours climbing this Mountain....why be so eager to rush down the other side? The view from here is amazing.

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RE: After care~ - 7/13/2004 5:54:34 PM   
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I like After care and knowing my Domme has done her job in caring for me~

Sincerely, eyesofAslave





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RE: After care~ - 7/16/2004 9:14:51 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Monts

After care is often forgetten, especially in a public venue when there is a need to hussle yourself away from a piece of equipment as the next 'Top" is taking his/her toys out of their bags.


What works really well for myself and my friends is that we 'help each other out' so if I am not doing a scene at the time and my friend is up to do one then I will handle the cleaning and such after his or her scene and they will return the favor when it is my turn to scene. The buddy system really does make public life a lot easier for all parties involved in my opinion.

In answer to the actual posted question... I provide the type and amount of aftercare that is needed for the person I am doing the scene with, however, I do have one rule that stands for everyone I scene with and that is they are required to drink lots of water as a part of their aftercare. In terms of my own aftercare I do whatever is necessary mentally to keep myself completely focused on the slave/sub/bottom until such time as I can safely deal with my own aftercare. I do have to say though that as was stated, hearing them sometimes force out a 'Thank You Ma'am' through the sniffles and tears is always a wonderful thing for me.

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RE: After care~ - 7/17/2004 6:19:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

Well, to add a slightly dissenting opinion, I am of the opinion that aftercare is for me as well as my submissive.

I have just beaten and caused to climax repeatedly my partner (often in a public venue) and my rat brain likes a physical connection to my partner when it is all over.

I personally absolutely love my submissive shivering in my lap with her head buried in my chest. So I can hug and snuggle with my partner for hours after a play session.


Well said! You know, I had to remind a girl once that I was not some kind of spanking machine. Part of me needs to have my sub close for purely emotional reasons.

I don't play in public venues so I can't add to that. Perhaps this is one of the reasons I won't... I guess if there was a way to just teleport to my living room right after...

As for the rat brain... what on earth is that? Seeing as I was born in the year of the rat, I'd like to know!

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RE: After care~ - 7/17/2004 10:18:15 AM   
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quote:

As for the rat brain... what on earth is that? Seeing as I was born in the year of the rat, I'd like to know!


What I perjoratively refer to as the rat brain, the lizard brain, or the primitive brain is the limbic system in a person.

It is the part of the mind which exists outside of conscious or cognitive thought and is in charge of impulse and instinctual responses.

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RE: After care~ - 7/25/2004 10:27:08 PM   
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knees2you,
Aftercare is something that would depend on the length of the scene or what type of a scene the sub involved in. Sadly many Tops/Doms/Dommes/Mistress' what ever One titles Themselves have no idea what aftercare is and feel that when the scene ends their responsiblity ends. I hope every one finds what they seek and enjoys their path through life, but always remember safety should always be first. Bright blessings Faerie
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